Hi again Mr. Shafer: Would you please let me know where you were able to obtain the church records you mention. Were they available at the Amos Memorial Library or something? I look forward to hearing from you :) Lynne Michigan

Hi, My line is Bradford. My Thomas died around 1877. That is according to the local church records. Otherwise I have not found a death or burial record. They were members of Houston Christian Church in Houston. Do you know where your family attended church. I have copies of some of the church records. Not in alpha. order but I can take a few minutes and see if they are listed. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: [OHSHELBY] RE: Marriage Lookup > Don, > > Thanks for your response. I still needed to find David SOUDERS in 1870, and thanks to your posting, I just received a message from someone that can help us both. What is your family name? Here is my family in 1880, were we still neighbors then? > > Diana > Portland, Or. > [email protected] > > > 1880 Census of Shelby Co, OH; Loramie Twp., page 153D. > David Sowder, m 36, OH, Farmer > Virginia f 26 wife OH > Mary f 8 dau OH > Martha f 5 dau OH > Thomas m 10/12 son OH > Mary Studer, f, single, 21, b Switz > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yes, Diane, it was in the book as SOUDEN, but that could be how the transcriber read the old records....when you think about it, an "r" looks like an unfinished "n". I double checked and I don't show any listings in Vol. 1 or 2 for a Virginia Adams - just in case she was married previous to her marriage to David. You're welcome to check back with me if you need more look-ups. Happy hunting, Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: [OHSHELBY] RE: Marriage Lookup > Lynne, > > Thank you so much for the lookup. I will send for a copy of the marriage record. Was the name really spelled "Souden" ? (and I was told Virginia's name was Adams). This is why I have so much trouble finding all these folks. I had the same problem growing up, as my maiden name was Souders. > > May I call on you for a few more as I try to put this family together? David William SOUDERS was my great great grandfather. > > I am happy to do lookups of various things for Portland or Oregon resources if anyone needs anything. > > Diana > Portland, Or. > [email protected] > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Join and support RootsWeb, home of the Shelby County, Ohio list and many > other genealogy lists and resources - go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Lynne, thanks for the extra look for Virginia too. Diana > Yes, Diane, it was in the book as SOUDEN, but that could be how the > transcriber read the old records....when you think about it, an "r" looks > like an unfinished "n". > > I double checked and I don't show any listings in Vol. 1 or 2 for a Virginia > Adams - just in case she was married previous to her marriage to David. > > You're welcome to check back with me if you need more look-ups. > > Happy hunting, > > Lynne > >

Don, Thanks for your response. I still needed to find David SOUDERS in 1870, and thanks to your posting, I just received a message from someone that can help us both. What is your family name? Here is my family in 1880, were we still neighbors then? Diana Portland, Or. [email protected] 1880 Census of Shelby Co, OH; Loramie Twp., page 153D. David Sowder, m 36, OH, Farmer Virginia f 26 wife OH Mary f 8 dau OH Martha f 5 dau OH Thomas m 10/12 son OH Mary Studer, f, single, 21, b Switz

Lynne, Thank you so much for the lookup. I will send for a copy of the marriage record. Was the name really spelled "Souden" ? (and I was told Virginia's name was Adams). This is why I have so much trouble finding all these folks. I had the same problem growing up, as my maiden name was Souders. May I call on you for a few more as I try to put this family together? David William SOUDERS was my great great grandfather. I am happy to do lookups of various things for Portland or Oregon resources if anyone needs anything. Diana Portland, Or. [email protected]

Hi, Diana, Here is the entry you requested from the "Marriage Records of Shelby County, Ohio, Vol. 2, 1871-1899": SOUDEN, David married DAVIS, Virginia on 10 Apr 1871 by J. J. O'Denohue. Book 5, page 336. I checked the index of Ministers and Justices of the Peace in the marriage book to determine what denomination or capacity J. J. O'Denohue was able to marry them, but there was no listing. Perhaps if you write to the Shelby County Probate Court for a copy of this marriage record, there will be more information on the record. Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: [OHSHELBY] Marriage Lookup > Hi Lynne, > > I would appreciate a lookup for the marriage record of: > > David William SOUDERS to Virginia ADAMS, about 1871. > > In case they are not in Vol. 1 (1819-1870), would you have access to the next volume? Thanks so much for your time and help. > > Diana > Portland, Or. > [email protected] > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grogean Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/289.303 Message Board Post: Marie, There is a Catholic Church in Russia - St. Remy's - and there is cemetery located there. The phone number to the church is either 937-526-3437 or the same number with area code 419. There may also be a few smaller cemetaries in the surrounding townships, but I'm not for certain. I would be interested in sharing information with you, as my grandmother's first husband was also a Grogean, so we may be related!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/287.1 Message Board Post: Jean, Yes there is a Graceland Cemetery in Shelby Co. It is located in Sidney. You may want to try the City of Sidney (937) 498-2335. or www.sidneyoh.com, I believe they have a department in charge of cemetery maintenance and may be able to help you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crosley, Crossley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/375.1 Message Board Post: Sally, I live in Shelby Co. and there are a few listings from Crosley in the local white pages. Just wondering if the gentleman you are looking for lived in Shelby County or in city of Shelby, Ohio? If he did live in Shelby County, does your husband remember which village. This might help me narrow down the possible contacts.

Hi, Happen to see your posting. I have an index to the 1870 Shelby Co. census. He is listed as head of household. Here is what so funny. He is on the same page, 543, as my family. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: [OHSHELBY] Marriage Lookup > Hi Lynne, > > I would appreciate a lookup for the marriage record of: > > David William SOUDERS to Virginia ADAMS, about 1871. > > In case they are not in Vol. 1 (1819-1870), would you have access to the next volume? Thanks so much for your time and help. > > Diana > Portland, Or. > [email protected] > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Ronni, I don't find any listing for these folks in the "Marriage Records of Shelby County, Ohio", Vol. 1, 1819-1870. I tried a couple variations of each name and still no luck. Sorry Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronni Houtzer (by way of Tina Hursh <[email protected]>)" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: [OHSHELBY] look-up > can anyone look up marriage of John J. Houtzer and > Marcuria Kern 1839 or before? > > ===== > Ronni Houtzer > > ><> Are you related to me? Shake my family tree at . > http://www.geocities.com/ronniwho1/ > Researching: Welch turned Welsh(IL/MN/NE); Karels (MN); McNeish (IL); > McGrath (IL); Burnett (IL); Croft(VT,PA,IL); Dudley (IL); Parker (KY,IL); > Wiggins (NY); Pringle (IL); ><> > > OR my husband's line: Houtzer: http://www.geocities.com/houtzer_2000/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

can anyone look up marriage of John J. Houtzer and Marcuria Kern 1839 or before? ===== Ronni Houtzer ><> Are you related to me? Shake my family tree at . http://www.geocities.com/ronniwho1/ Researching: Welch turned Welsh(IL/MN/NE); Karels (MN); McNeish (IL); McGrath (IL); Burnett (IL); Croft(VT,PA,IL); Dudley (IL); Parker (KY,IL); Wiggins (NY); Pringle (IL); ><> OR my husband's line: Houtzer: http://www.geocities.com/houtzer_2000/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

This came to me instead of the list. Tina ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:49:46 -0800 Subject: Hanselman/McDorman From: [email protected] Looking for a friend she would like more information on the McDorman Family. Paul Hamilton McDorman born in 1928 and died in 1991 Mother Elva Mae Hanselman Father Beryl Hamilton McDorman died 1954 Born May 6,? Died March 4, 1934 She believes the McDorman family may be Irish Catholic. Thank you Lorrie Heckman Smith Piqua, Ohio, [email protected] May God be between thee and harm, in all the empty places you must walk.

Hi Lynne, I would appreciate a lookup for the marriage record of: David William SOUDERS to Virginia ADAMS, about 1871. In case they are not in Vol. 1 (1819-1870), would you have access to the next volume? Thanks so much for your time and help. Diana Portland, Or. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/403.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. I appreciate your looking this up and have found the address and am preparing letter. Thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: VanFossen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/402.1 Message Board Post: Beth, Have you tried the City of Sidney at (937-498-8170). They have a city department that takes care of Graceland.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/403.1 Message Board Post: Karen, I live outside of the Sidney area and know of this street. I contacted the Shelby Co. Tax Map Department (937-498-7279) and they show Rick Wolfe is still the owner of this property. I would think they could release a mailing address.

I have no connection with this family - I just wanted to say what a nice thing you have done for someone by posting this information....a true act of kindness. Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:21 PM Subject: [OHSHELBY] marriage license 1887 from Shelby County: Hubbard & Parke > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Hubbard, Parke > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/421 > > Message Board Post: > > Today in a small shop in Davidson, Tillman County, OK., I found the marriage license of Jonathan S Hubbard and Sarah C Parke who were married 20 FEB 1887 in Anna OH. > > I hope someone is looking for this. I have the name and phone number of the store's owner. > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hubbard, Parke Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/421 Message Board Post: Today in a small shop in Davidson, Tillman County, OK., I found the marriage license of Jonathan S Hubbard and Sarah C Parke who were married 20 FEB 1887 in Anna OH. I hope someone is looking for this. I have the name and phone number of the store's owner.