I'm happy to announce a new Special Project, the Ohio Family Group Sheet (FGS) project. It's my privilege to be managing it, and I hope to be very busy adding family group sheets submitted by all of you. As you know I myself am from Seneca county, but have been awful busy uploading submissions, so I have only one FGS posted for my own families so far. The URL for the page is http://www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/ohio/. I think you'll find the page easy to read and use, but if you have any questions or concerns, please let me know. The USFGS home page (http://www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/ ) links to all the states that have a family group project. I hope you'll take advantage of this new project. Those of us who have been working to bring it to Ohio are very excited about its possibilities. Any family group that lived in Ohio, even for a short time, can be posted. THE ONLY OHIOANS WHO CANNOT BE POSTED ARE THOSE WHO ARE LIVING. Each family group sheet provides space for basic information about father, mother, and children; so if you only know about one family unit, you know enough to put the information up. If you know more, you can add more family group sheets: the father's parents and siblings, the mother's parents and siblings, the children's spouses and children, and on and on. If you've traced the family on into Kansas, Colorado, and Oregon, you can post your group sheet in those states as well as Ohio. But just one family sheet in one state can be enough to make new and exciting connections. We've prepared the pages and forms, added search engines and links, and now it's in your hands. Send in your family group sheets. One a day, one a week, whatever works for you. Tell your fellow researchers about the site. Talk about it at your next genealogical society meeting. Mention it in your emails. The more people hear about the site, the more contributions we're likely to get; and the more contributions we receive, the more valuable the project is going to be. I'll be waiting for your family to turn up in my mailbox! Kristina (Kuhn) Krumm Webmaster of Wyandot County, OH at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwyand2/ FGS Project OHIO and WISCONSIN _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Please give directions to this cemetery. I know it is on Twp. Rd. 163, which is right off of 19, but how far down this road is it? Looking for Sam Gifford. Also, looking for directions to what was formerly the Stone Church Cemetery. I have been told that it is now the Reformed Church one mile north of Bloomville. Is this cemetery on Rt. 19? Is it the church that is now vinyl sided? Looking for Mary and Isaac Gifford. Thank you......Debbie

Forwarded for your information. Alice US GenWeb Project County Coordinator for Seneca Co., OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html Listmom for OHSENECA-L *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 7/7/2003 at 11:51 PM astaley <astaley@comcast.net> wrote: >Countdown to Discovery - A World of Hidden Treasures >Have you ever been to a genealogy conference? > >Genealogy is a continuing education. Learning about documents and >resources often takes us to places that we never dreamed could be helpful >to >us. Now, in the heart of Florida and close to Walt Disney World, there is a >place where genealogists from all over the country, Great Britain and >Europe >will be attending the Federation of Genealogical Society Conference, hosted >by the Florida State Genealogical Society. > >Why Should you attend? >1) Over 200 LECTURES on a variety of topics and over 95 top-of-the line >SPEAKERS. Track descriptions are as follows: > >Charting a Course to the Old World (British Isles & Europe) >Exploration in the New World (United States & Canada) >Riches in the First Colony (Focus on Florida) >Diverse Voyagers (Ethnic & Religious Research) >Tools for Successful Navigation (Skills & Strategies) >A Wealth of Hidden Treasures (Records Research) >Just Over the Horizon (Technology & the Internet)! > >For more detailed information about each lecture, visit >http://www.fgs.org > >2) A TREASURE HUNT is currently in progress. You can win grand prizes >such as free conference registration, room nights at hotels in Salt Lake >City, tuition at the Institute of Genealogy & Historical Research in >Birmingham, Alabama, registration and boarding at a conference in >England and so much more. Check the latest issue of the FGS FORUM for >more details about the great Treasure Hunt or the above web site. > >You can also learn more about the conference and the treasure hunts if you >subscribe to the E-zine.To subscribe to the E-zine, send an email >message (no text or subject is necessary) to >fgs2003-announce-on@lists.csc.cc.il.us>. You will receive a confirmation >message to which you must reply within 24 hours. > >3) Over 100 VENDORS or 150 booths will be in the exhibit hall. See a >list of our current exhibitors at >http://www.fgs.org/2003conf/conf-exhibitors.asp > >4) All under ONE ROOF. The complete conference and your hotel room are >in one building. There is no need to walk outside in the heat or rain. >All food functions and restaurants are also located in the same >building. Hotel rooms are huge and you can register up to four people >for one price. > >5) Fun for the FAMILY. SeaWorld is right across the street from the >conference hotel. Visit Walt Disney World, which includes the Magic >Kingdom, EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, and Disney-MGM Studios, as well as >Universal Studios, Kennedy Space Center, and many, many other wonderful >places! > >6) SOCIETIES CAN WIN $200 worth of genealogy books from Betterway Books. If >you advertise the conference in your newsletter, send us a copy and we will >add it to the drawing to be held at the conference. We have made it very >simple for you. Use the media kit at >http://www.fgs.org/2003conf/conf-media.htm > >Hurry, the EARLY CONFERENCE registration deadline for the lower price is >July 15th. > >HOTEL registration deadline is August 4th. 1-800-327-6677; 407-351-5555 > >Jim and Pam Cooper >FGS/FSGS 2003 National Conference Co-Chairs >Countdown to Discovery - A World of Hidden Treasures >3-6 September 2003, Orlando, Florida >http://www.fgs.org or http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ >P. O. Box 7066, Vero Beach, FL 32961-7066 > > > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********

THANKS, Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: <EFisher825@aol.com> To: <OHSENECA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [OHSENECA] 1862 obituary > The Rutherford B. Hayes Library appears to have your man. Go to > <A HREF="http://index.rbhayes.org/search_results.cfm?pass_thru=1">http://index. rbhayes.org/search_results.cfm?pass_thru=1</A> > > Their price is $2,50 per obituary. > Charlie Fisher > > > Search Results The search criteria you selected yields - 1 Records. You are > viewing record 1 through 1. > > > Last Name First Name Middle Spouse > Last Name Spouse > First Name Age > at Death Place > of > Death Year > of Death Month > of Death Day > of Death > PENNINGTON EDWIN 1862 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

THANKS, Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Thiry" <bobthiry@earthlink.net> To: <OHSENECA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:25 AM Subject: RE: [OHSENECA] 1862 obituary > http://index.rbhayes.org/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

An alternative to trying on-line purchase for the information is to contact the Center by mail or telephone and providing them with the information I sent you: The Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center Spiegel Grove Fremont, OH 43420 1-800-998-7737 Charlie Fisher

Hello, thanks for the info, I tried to access my surname again, but , had no luck so I'm puzzled. I'm new at this, so, perhaps I not doing something right. Sincerely, Darlene

The Rutherford B. Hayes Library appears to have your man. Go to <A HREF="http://index.rbhayes.org/search_results.cfm?pass_thru=1">http://index.rbhayes.org/search_results.cfm?pass_thru=1</A> Their price is $2,50 per obituary. Charlie Fisher Search Results The search criteria you selected yields - 1 Records. You are viewing record 1 through 1.   Last Name First Name Middle Spouse Last Name Spouse First Name Age at Death Place of Death Year of Death Month of Death Day of Death PENNINGTON EDWIN 1862  

Please, can someone tell me where I might find an obituary for January 1862 for Edwin Pennington, physician???? Thanks, Dolores M. Ault Drummond Isle, Michigan

http://index.rbhayes.org/

(Redirected by "DC & Alice Allen" <dcaallen@pacifier.com>) Since this is from the Message Board, reply using the URL in the message itself. Alice US GenWeb Project County Coordinator for Seneca Co., OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html Listmom for OHSENECA-L *********** BEGIN REDIRECTED MESSAGE *********** This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bishop, Ijams, Penrose, Miller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BYB.2ACE/368 Message Board Post: Seeking ancestors of Laura N. BISHOP b. 22 Jan 1847 Tiffin, Seneca, OH m. 1) 9 Nov 1865 Wm. Henry IJAMS m. 2) 28 Oct 1872 Joseph Henry PENROSE d. 1912 Indiana Mother may be Eliza MILLER Any information appreciated. *********** END REDIRECTED MESSAGE ***********

Great sites for maps and general info. -----Original Message----- From: num1scot@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:22 PM To: NJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJ] Re: Genealogy Links Would like to pass these links along. I found them interesting and helpful. Some of you may feel the same. US & State County Census Maps www.genealogyinc.com/uscm.htm US & State County Formation Maps www.genealogyinc.com/uscf.htm Southestern States www.segenealogy.com NorthEaster States www.negenealogy.com meanings of terms & descriptions www.genealogyinc.com/descriptions/

Does anyone have information on Edwin Pennington, born about 1825, wife Ann, and son Henry Oscar Pennington, (born 1848. my greatgrandfather,) Edwin, Catherine and Charles. Edwin was a Physician and was in the 1850 census for Allen County, and the 1860 census for Seneca County. Thanks, Dolores M. Ault Drummond Isle, Michigan

(Redirected by "DC & Alice Allen" <dcaallen@pacifier.com>) Cleaning out my mailbox and found this, from the message boards. Alice US GenWeb Project County Coordinator for Seneca Co., OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html Listmom for OHSENECA-L *********** BEGIN REDIRECTED MESSAGE *********** This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BYB.2ACE/367 Message Board Post: If you are a female lineal descendant of a Union CW veteran, age 8 years of age and up, you are eligible for membership in this national patriotic CW organization. Proof of military service is required. Could have been Marines, Army, or Navy. Even the Squirrel Hunters of Ohio. For information, please contact me at jcall@cros.net. Thank you. Janett Calland, President Tent #150, Fremont, OH *********** END REDIRECTED MESSAGE ***********

(Redirected by "DC & Alice Allen" <dcaallen@pacifier.com>) >From the Message Boards, be sure to use the URL in the message body to reply. Alice US GenWeb Project County Coordinator for Seneca Co., OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html Listmom for OHSENECA-L *********** BEGIN REDIRECTED MESSAGE *********** This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Westerhouse, White, Rider, Hartzel, Weidner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BYB.2ACE/365 Message Board Post: These names are in-laws to my grandmother Alice Shadler Rine . I am searching for more information on them . Amanda married Mahlon Weidner,. Kate married Ben Rider , Addie married Jacob R. White, Emma married Samuel Westerhouse ,Ellen married Tillman Hartzel any informaton would be helpful. I have a picture of Emma and Samuel Westerhouse's grave marker. *********** END REDIRECTED MESSAGE ***********

Governor Taft's web page: http://www.state.oh.us/gov/ Governors email: Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us Governor's telephone: Phone 614-466-3555 or 614-644-HELP Governor's address: Governor Bob Taft 30th Floor 77 South High Street Columbus, Ohio 43215-6117 Kristina (Kuhn) Krumm Webmaster of Wyandot County, OH at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwyand2/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: WBarton2@aol.com Reply-To: OHSENECA-L@rootsweb.com To: OHSENECA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHSENECA] email Governor Taft to stop 1700% price increase for birth & death certiifcates Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:23:50 EDT Michael, is the e-mail address correct? My letter came back , no such address. Hope this works! Carol ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Michael, is the e-mail address correct? My letter came back , no such address. Hope this works! Carol

IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have any chance fo stopping this increase. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then you should immeidately contact your state senators and representatives and ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it within just a day or two). Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. If yoiu want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include your snail mail address. (I included mine.) Thanks Mick Burdge Dayton, Ohio Governors email address: Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us His office phone numbers: (614) 466-3555 (614) 644-0957 Yoiu can find your state senators & representatives here: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ My email to his office this morning: Dear Governor Taft -- I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 per copy. It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper research. I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the dept would make the records mor! e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. (2) This year, I made a! similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's records. The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have vetoed such an increase. Michael J. Burdge

Phoebe (Pheba) Elizabeth (Lizzie) Gifford, Nelson Shafner, Frank Lawrence, Samuel Gifford all from Bloom Twp, Seneca County. Phoebe, daughter of Samuel Gifford, married Frank Lawrence in 1891. Had children Eulalia Marie (Mrs. Arthur) Moyer, William McKinley Lawrence, Florence Lawrence. Looking for Phoebe's siblings. Father Samuel died in 1870, age 37, I think. I know that he left 3 daughters who were adopted out because his wife, possibly Mary, could not take care of them. Phoebe went to live with Nelson Shafner family.

I can help as my wife is direct descendant of Kelbley family. I have information on family of Johann Evang KOLBLE and Rosina LEONHARD which includes a child named Katharina born on October 20, 1854. Steve and Donna Frank Tiffin, OH SFrank@woh.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Kristina Kuhn Krumm [mailto:kkkrumm@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 8:30 AM To: OHSENECA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHSENECA] needs genealogy help this person wrote directly to me so I am posting the message here. If you can help their email at the bottom of their message. I do not think they are a member of this list... Kristina (Kuhn) Krumm Webmaster of Wyandot County, OH at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwyand2/ ***************************************************** Hi Kristine, I've been looking through the Seneca co. cemetery pgs. (nice work!!) trying to find John & Rose Kilble, parents of 7 children. #7 Kate (Catherine) b. 20Feb1854 is the person I'm trying to track. A handwritten note (in our family)& oral tradition indicates the family lived in New Riegel..however I've not been able to find any trace of them. Other spellings..Kelbley,Kelble have not turned up any info. I did find her marriage certificate at WR Historical in Clev. Oh. (It has the correct spouse listed.) Her maiden name listed there was Leonhardt.!!?! Leonhart or Leonhardt from Seneca & Crawford cemeteries have not yielded any supporting info. Census info doesn't support the info I have. So my question is...do you know of a local person who may be working on either of these family names? Since fairly new at this, Am I going in the right direction? Thank you for any direction you can offer. Martha email: dmtansey@accnorwalk.com _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237