Thanks Phyllis, I neglected to mention on my posting that Frank Jacobs and family are on the 1900 Utah, Carbon Co. census and then on the 1910 CA, Sonoma, 1920 CA Fresno census. So, I have followed him from his marriage date of 1890 to when he dies of 1928 BUT it's the earlier part that I can not find. I just realized after my posting that there is a Scioto County as well as a Scioto town (in Jackson Co.), Ohio so now I'm now sure which Scioto he meant when he indicated on his marriage record that he was born in "Scioto, Ohio" - I'm beginning to think it might be the town which is in Jackson Co. (If I'm wrong on that county, please correct me). I have no idea if his parents or siblings came west or not - I have a feeling that they did not. Thanks for your help. Marti [email protected] researching: Martineau-Johnson-Clark-Davis; (Utah-AZ-Mexico) Higgins-Packer-Lowry (AZ-UT) Williams, Pope, Crudup, Thomas, Berry, Kyle, Isbell, Davis (all southern states) Williams-Mortenson-Easterly (AZ-NM-TN)