Portsmouth Times Nov. 23, 1861 "Lieutenant Colonel Bailey." We publish, to-day the resolutions adopted by the remaining members of Company G. 1st Regiment of Ohio Volunteers, commanded by Capt. Geo B. Bailey, in the three months service-His death, occurring as it did while bravely performing his duty as a soldier and officer, cast over our city a deep and heartfelt sorrow. During the period of his residence in this place, he made many warm friends, and was universally respected as a citizen and gentleman. When the Fall of Fort Sumter startled the country, and the President called for volunteers, he was the first in our State to offer a company to the Government. He received a dispatch, accepting his services on the evening of Tuesday April 16, 1861, and the next day, at 11 o'clock, A.M. his company was on it way to Columbus-the first to leave their homes in the State of Ohio. From appearances about Washington at that time, he expected to be in active and dangerous service in a few days. He commanded his company at the massacre of Vienna and the equally unfortunate battle at Bull Run. On his return, he accepted the position of Lieutenant Colonel of the 9th Virginia Regiment, stationed at Guyandotte, and immediately devoted all his energies to its welfare and success. In the attack at that place although suddenly surprised by a vastly superior force, he fought with heroic bravery. With musket in hand, he acted the part of a private soldier and sacrificed his life rather than surrender. His remains were brought to his family, living in this place, and on Wednesday last, were taken to Brown county where he formerly resided. A large number of citizens, including the Mason and Odd Fellows, together with Colonel Kinney's Regiment and the remaining members of his old company, escorted his remains to the boat and visibly testified their deep sorrow at his death, and their sympathy for his bereaved family. He was a superior officer, thoroughly versed in military tactics, and well understood, and was peculiarly adapted to the task of organizing and disciplining the volunteers. Let us long cherish his memory as a gallant soldier and valuable citizen-and as one who nobly sacrificed his life in defence, and for the honor, of his country. ___________________________________________________________________________ "At least three Confederates were killed on the night of November 10 and ten others wounded. Despite later Northern reports of a "massacre," only ten Union recruits were killed, while at least ten more were wounded. One of the Federal casualties was Captain George B. Bailey, Whaley's second-in-command, who was shot in the chin and apparently drowned while attempting to swim across the Guyandotte River. Bailey had briefly attended the United States Military Academy; when he was expelled his position had been filled by his boyhood friend, Ulysses Grant. Ninety-eight Union troops and sympathizers were taken prisoner by the Confederate cavalry. They were assisted by a number of Guyandotte's Confederate supporters, who used the occasion to settle grudges against their fellow townspeople who had sided with the North.26" The Tragic Fate of Guyandotte, by Joe Geiger,Jr. Vol. 54 (1995) pp. 28-41 Further information about the battle of Guyandotte, West Virginia by Joe Geiger, Jr. Go to: http://www.wvculture.org/history/journal_wvh/wvh54-2.html

The following article was found in an Ohio 1860 newspaper. I believe that it was meant to be published countrywide (but I could be wrong). Anyway, from the article I inferred that government knew that it was having problems with taking the census. It's a pity that our ancestors didn't realize that someday this "record" would be an important part of tracing roots. Portsmouth Times June 23, 1860 On the first of June the work of taking the Census commences. It is desirable that it be taken with great accuracy, and to enable the Assistant Marshals who will be engaged in the performance of this duty to have their work well done, it has been suggested that the publication of the questions necessary for all heads of families to answer would be of great benefit. By this course the requirements of law, will become known and the answers can be written down and be ready for the Marshal when he calls, thus saving time and securing accuracy. With this view, we have obtained the following list of questions to be answered, and if the Press of the State, of all parties will publish it, we think the population and resources of Ohio will make a much better appearance than they otherwise would. To write down an answer to these questions will only occupy a short time, and having his household about him to aid and assist, the head of the family will be able to make a much more correct statement than would be the case with a hurried interview with an officer. In the first place, it is necessary to write down the name of every person whose usual place of abode on the first day of June, 1860, was in the family: The age of each, sex and color, whether white, black or mulatto. Profession, occupation or trade of each male person over 15 years of age. Value of Real Estate owned. Place of birth, naming the State, Territory or country. Married within the year. Attended school within the year. Persons over 20 years of age that cannot read or write. Whether deaf and dumb, blind, insane, idiotic, pauper or convict. Name of owner, agent or manager of the farm. Number of improved acres. Cash value of farm. Value of farming implements and machinery. Live stock on hand June 1st, 1860, viz: number of Horses, Mules, and Asses working Oxen, Milch Cows, and other cattle, Sheep and swine. Value of live stock. Value of animals slaughtered during the year. Produce during the year ending June 1st, 1860 viz: number bushels of Wheat, Rye Indian Corn, Oats, Beans and Peas, Buckwheat, Barley, Irish Potatoes, Sweet Potatoes; pounds of Wool and pounds of Tobacco. Value of Orchard products in dollars. Gallons of Wine, value of Produce of Market Garden, pounds of Butter, pounds of Cheese, tons of Hay, bushels of Cloverseed, and bushels of Grass Seeds, pounds of Hops, Pounds, of Flax, bushels of Plax seed, pounds of Maple Sugar gallons of Molasses, pounds, of Honey and Beeswax, value of home made manufactures. Name of Corporation, Company or individual producing articles to the annual value of $500. Nature of business, manufacture of product. Capital invested in rent estate and personal estate in the business Average number of hands employed, Viz: --Male, Female, average monthly cost of Male labor, average monthly cost of Female labor. Annual product, viz: quantities, kinds, values. Name of every person who died during the year ending June 1, 1860, whose usual place of abode was in the family, the age, sex and color, whether white, black, or mulatto, married or widowed, place of birth, naming the State, Territory or country, the month in which the person died, profession occupation or trade, disease or cause of death. In addition to these, there are a number or other questions, the answers to which can be obtained, however with little trouble. It is hoped that every person who sees this request will, before the first day of June, make out the answer and in case of absence leave it with the family ready for the officer when he makes his appearance.

Found this article and thought I would pass it along. "A Sad Accident" A little son of Rev. S. D. Tompkins ages about 15 years, met with a serious accident on last Saturday afternoon at Maddock's Factory. He was in the third story of the building at work, when his coat caught on an upright shaft and before the machinery could be stopped he was whirled around at a fearful rate, striking the wall at every revolution fracturing his scull, breaking both arms-one of them in two places-and lacerating the flesh on the side of the head and arms in a terrible manner,--He was taken to the home of his parents in an insensible condition where his wounds were dressed by Drs., Bailey, Corson and Mussey. We are pleased to learn that he is improving, and hopes are now entertained that he will recover. On the same evening, the eldest son of Mr. Tompkins, [Lewis J.] aged 24 years was thrown from a horse, at Wheeling, W. Va-where he has resided for the last eight years-and injured so severely that he died on Monday morning. His remains were forwarded to this place by the Masonic Fraternity of Wheeling and arrived here at two o'clock, Thursday morning and were received at the landing, by a committee of the Lodge in this city, and escorted to the residence of the distressed parents. The funeral services took place at Christ Church at half past one on Thursday, after which his remains were followed to their last resting place by the Masonic Fraternity, and a large number of friends of the family. He was a very estimable young man his sudden death was a sad blow to his parents. In one short day, death claimed him as its own, and whilst the family were watching with great anxiety, and expecting the death of one dear to them, the sad intelligence was conveyed to them that the eldest son and brother, was take from them by the relentless hand of death: but in their affliction they the consolation of knowing that he died in the fall faith of a better world, and that he is taken from the Lodge here to the Grand Lodge abvove, where our "Supreme Grand Master" reigns forever. Portsmouth Times, Nov. 10, 1860

To All: I would like to contact anyone doing reseach about the Darnell family, who lived in this area in the early to mid 1800s. I have info to trade. Wayne Gilbert [email protected]

To All: I would like to contact anyone doing reseach about the Gregory family, who lived in this area in the early to mid 1800s. I have info to trade. Wayne Gilbert [email protected]

Emma Smith, 82, of Thomas Hollow Road, Lucasville, died Sunday, July 13, 2003, at Heartland of Portsmouth. Born December 21, 1920, in New Boston, a daughter of the late Charlie and Daphne Bear Duncan, she was a retired cook for the Scioto County Joint Vocational School and a member of Victory Chapel Church of Christ in Christian Union. She is survived by her husband, Walker Smith, whom she married on July 24, 1944, in Columbus, Ohio; one son and daughter-in-law, Jeff and Beverly Smith of Lucasville; three grandchildren, Shawn Smith, Michele Whelan, and Thomas Smith; four great-grandchildren; and one brother, Charles Duncan of New Boston.

WEDDING ANNOUNCEMENT Portsmouth Times Saturday, June 5, 1866 Clemens-Asche Nuptials One of Portsmouth's prominent young Teutons ended a single life last Wednesday evening, and is now a pronounced benedict. The contracting parties moved in the front rank of German Circles. The groom is Edward Clemens, nephew and clerk a A. Brunner, and the bride, Miss Minnie Asche the only daughter of William Asche. The ceremony occurred at the same hour as the marriage of the President and Miss Folsom. The ritual was preformed by Rev. Baltzer, of the Fifth Street Lutheran Church. The attendants where Charles Windel, Jr. and Miss Annie Werner. About seventy-five guests extended congratulations to the wedded pair during the supper, which was a bounteous spread, mingled with choice music and champagne, after which they were driven to the steamer Bostons, upon which they took passage for a tour to Cincinnati, Athens, and other Ohio cities and towns. Upon their return they will reside on north Market street. It was a happy gathering and the Times' wish is that the remainder of their life will be compete with as much enjoyment and glee as on the festive night of last Wednesday. We append a list of the gifts and the names of those who gave them. Presents Piano--Mr. and Mrs. William Asche. Table cloth and splasher--Willy Asche. Bedroom set and wardrobe Mrs. Dru Clemens. Cook stove and two carpets -- Mr. Rudolph Clemens. Oil paintings and wall ornaments -- Mr. Chas. Windel and Miss Annier Werner. Parlor lamp --Mr. and Mrs. John Bender. Student lamp--Misses Emma and Mary Brunner. Water bowl and pitcher--Mr. Siegmund Burkhard. Glass water set-- Miss Annie Bruner. Silver pickle castor--Miss Anne Blum and Mr. Louis Spitzer. Glass berry set--Miss Mary Fryer. Table cloth--Mr. and Mrs. Harrison Montgomery. 1 pair towels--Mr. A. Ashtolz. White spread--Mr. Gottlieb Brunner. Set silver knives, forks, spoons -- Mr. and Mrs. Adolph Brunner. Cake stand--Miss Eliza Davis. Water set--W. F. and H. H. Blankemeyer. Silver pickle castor--Miss Phillipine and Messr. Fred and Wm. Clemens. Cologne bottles--Miss Josie Biles. Spoon holders--Mrs. A. M. Biles. Set desert dishes--Miss Emma Brunner. Glass fruit dish--Miss Phillipine Brunner. Water set--Mr. M. H. Albrecht. Tea set--Miss Lucy Brunner. Clock--Mr. and Mrs. Ph. Zoellner. One doz. napkins and pair towels--Mr. and Mrs. Aug. Arnold. Floral horse shoe and a $5 gold piece--Mr. Jac. Brunner of Athens. Chas. R. Burnner--1 1/2 pair lace curtains. _____________________________________________________________________________ Wednesday evening at eight o'clock Edward Clemens, the well-known clerk at Brunner's was married to Miss Minnie Asche, daughter of William Asche, at the residence of the later, on Market street. Rev. Frederick Baltzer, of the Fifth Street Lutheran Church, preformed the ceremony. The presents were numerous. The bridal couple left on a short visit to Cincinnati. Joan L. Asche Is Today Your Birthday? http://www.jasche.com/birthday.htm Please visit my site at: http://www.jasche.com This site contains Philly maps and lots of PA. & OH Info. Please visit: http://www.jasche.com/hamiltoncounty.html for Hamilton County, Ohio Resources Please visit: http://rootsweb.com/~ohcnewma/ for New Market Twp. and Highland County data HELP KEEP GENEALOGY FREE!!! SUPPORT GENEXCHANGE BY DONATING YOUR ANCESTORS!! PLEASE VISIT: http://www.genexchange.org/us.cfm

For those of you who do not belong to ancestry.com or do not subscribe the newspaper service at ancestry the same papers plus a few more can be found at: www.newpaperarchives.com They offer a one day, one week, one month, quarterly, etc, subscriptions. The one day search is only $5.00. I hit the jackpot using this site by finding a marriage notice! Happy hunting.

Hi Jean and Joan, I tried it and sent the message to myself. I received a blank email. Has it worked for you? Anne FL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Lawson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [OHSCIOTO] Handy Family Group Sheet > Thanks to Joan L. Asche for the address of the e-mail family group > sheet. This is a great tool. Jean in WV > > Joan L. Asche wrote: > > I found a handy family group sheet that is sent via e-mail that I thought I > > would share. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iladams/bios/universal.htm > > > > > > Joan L. Asche > > > > > > > > Is Today Your Birthday? > > http://www.jasche.com/birthday.htm > > > > Please visit my site at: > > http://www.jasche.com > > This site contains Philly maps and lots of PA. & OH Info. > > > > Please visit: > > http://www.jasche.com/hamiltoncounty.html > > for Hamilton County, Ohio Resources > > > > Please visit: > > http://rootsweb.com/~ohcnewma/ > > for New Market Twp. and Highland County data > > > > HELP KEEP GENEALOGY FREE!!! > > SUPPORT GENEXCHANGE BY DONATING > > YOUR ANCESTORS!! > > > > PLEASE VISIT: > > > > http://www.genexchange.org/us.cfm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHSCIOTO Mailing List ==== > > Search our archived messages at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OHSCIOTO > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== OHSCIOTO Mailing List ==== > Search our archived messages at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OHSCIOTO > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks to Joan L. Asche for the address of the e-mail family group sheet. This is a great tool. Jean in WV Joan L. Asche wrote: > I found a handy family group sheet that is sent via e-mail that I thought I > would share. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~iladams/bios/universal.htm > > > Joan L. Asche > > > > Is Today Your Birthday? > http://www.jasche.com/birthday.htm > > Please visit my site at: > http://www.jasche.com > This site contains Philly maps and lots of PA. & OH Info. > > Please visit: > http://www.jasche.com/hamiltoncounty.html > for Hamilton County, Ohio Resources > > Please visit: > http://rootsweb.com/~ohcnewma/ > for New Market Twp. and Highland County data > > HELP KEEP GENEALOGY FREE!!! > SUPPORT GENEXCHANGE BY DONATING > YOUR ANCESTORS!! > > PLEASE VISIT: > > http://www.genexchange.org/us.cfm > > > > > > > > ==== OHSCIOTO Mailing List ==== > Search our archived messages at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OHSCIOTO > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I found a handy family group sheet that is sent via e-mail that I thought I would share. http://www.rootsweb.com/~iladams/bios/universal.htm Joan L. Asche Is Today Your Birthday? http://www.jasche.com/birthday.htm Please visit my site at: http://www.jasche.com This site contains Philly maps and lots of PA. & OH Info. Please visit: http://www.jasche.com/hamiltoncounty.html for Hamilton County, Ohio Resources Please visit: http://rootsweb.com/~ohcnewma/ for New Market Twp. and Highland County data HELP KEEP GENEALOGY FREE!!! SUPPORT GENEXCHANGE BY DONATING YOUR ANCESTORS!! PLEASE VISIT: http://www.genexchange.org/us.cfm

Hi List, I'm having a family reunion on August 16. It is being held at the Mackltree shelter in Shawnee State park, The directions I got from them are poor to say the least. Can anyone help me with directions? Thank you all in advance. P.S. The Reunion is for the Cooper/Blevin/Watkin/Penix families all are welcome.

you may use my e-mail address, and thank you for asking. Don Bradburn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce M Sadler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:25 AM Subject: Re: [OHSCIOTO] email Governor Taft to stop 1700% price increase for birth & death certificates > This email is for Mr. Mick Burdge. I would like to have your permission to > use your email on our website at www.sccogs.com/special.htm > > I have already placed it there, since time is of the essence, but if I do > not hear back from you or if you would rather that it not be there, I will > remove it promptly. > > Please advise at your earliest convenience. > > Thank you > Joyce M. Sadler > Webmaster / Newsletter Editor > Scioto County Chapter OGS > PO Box 812 > Portsmouth OH 45662 > www.sccogs.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mick Burdge" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:22 AM > Subject: [OHSCIOTO] email Governor Taft to stop 1700% price increase for > birth & death certificates > > > > IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates > may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have > any chance fo stopping this increase. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then > you should immeidately contact your state senators and representatives and > ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and > reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. > > > > I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for > 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. > If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get > uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of > health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to > $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of > genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. > > > > Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the > offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have > any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A > campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, > since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it > within just a day or two). > > > > Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain > about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set > forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this > morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching > their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will > make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. > > > > If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the > Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. > > > > If yoiu want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include > your snail mail address. (I included mine.) > > > > Thanks > > Mick Burdge > > Dayton, Ohio > > > > Governors email address: > > [email protected] > > > > His office phone numbers: > > (614) 466-3555 > > (614) 644-0957 > > > > Yoiu can find your state senators & representatives here: > > http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ > > > > My email to his office this morning: > > > > Dear Governor Taft -- > > > > I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other > powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining > death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the > proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital > records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would > mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 > per copy. > > > > It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate > its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too > expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will > eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and > newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable > and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but > raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will > make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical > research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are > critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of > parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper > research. > > > > I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase > the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay > for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a > false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current > unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the > dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to > conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more > accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the > high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a > person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the > dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per > day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. > No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the > dept would make the records mor! > > e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no > have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. > > > > Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make > research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history > report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World > War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle > in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest > Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first > newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that > research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the > certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified > and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed > budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of > $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record > that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. > (2) This year, I made a! > > similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War > II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at > a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over > the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained > approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make > that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. > > > > Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute > for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's > material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is > nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's > records. > > > > The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers > should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost > of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. > > > > Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- > and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an > increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. > > > > Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have > vetoed such an increase. > > > > Michael J. Burdge > > > > > > > > ==== OHSCIOTO Mailing List ==== > > Search our archived messages at: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OHSCIOTO > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== OHSCIOTO Mailing List ==== > Search our archived messages at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OHSCIOTO > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > --- > [This e-mail scanned for viruses by White Mountains Online using Declude Anti-Virus Software] > > --- [This e-mail scanned for viruses by White Mountains Online using Declude Anti-Virus Software]

I just emailed Taft and most of the Columbus Dispatch maybe we can get something done right. Julie A Patterson [email protected] Live long and prosper.

This email is for Mr. Mick Burdge. I would like to have your permission to use your email on our website at www.sccogs.com/special.htm I have already placed it there, since time is of the essence, but if I do not hear back from you or if you would rather that it not be there, I will remove it promptly. Please advise at your earliest convenience. Thank you Joyce M. Sadler Webmaster / Newsletter Editor Scioto County Chapter OGS PO Box 812 Portsmouth OH 45662 www.sccogs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick Burdge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: [OHSCIOTO] email Governor Taft to stop 1700% price increase for birth & death certificates > IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have any chance fo stopping this increase. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then you should immeidately contact your state senators and representatives and ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. > > I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. > > Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it within just a day or two). > > Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. > > If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. > > If yoiu want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include your snail mail address. (I included mine.) > > Thanks > Mick Burdge > Dayton, Ohio > > Governors email address: > [email protected] > > His office phone numbers: > (614) 466-3555 > (614) 644-0957 > > Yoiu can find your state senators & representatives here: > http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ > > My email to his office this morning: > > Dear Governor Taft -- > > I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 per copy. > > It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper research. > > I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the dept would make the records mor! > e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. > > Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. (2) This year, I made a! > similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. > > Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's records. > > The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. > > Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. > > Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have vetoed such an increase. > > Michael J. Burdge > > > > ==== OHSCIOTO Mailing List ==== > Search our archived messages at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=OHSCIOTO > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Anyone researching WILSON or WILLSONs might do well to start with the definitive Wilson biographer, Ken Stevens. He has detailed in several volumes the New England descendants of colonial Wilsons. I borrowed the volume in which I was interested from the circulating library of NEHGS (I am a member) and make good headway. Kathy Gire

IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have any chance fo stopping this increase. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then you should immeidately contact your state senators and representatives and ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it within just a day or two). Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. If yoiu want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include your snail mail address. (I included mine.) Thanks Mick Burdge Dayton, Ohio Governors email address: [email protected] His office phone numbers: (614) 466-3555 (614) 644-0957 Yoiu can find your state senators & representatives here: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ My email to his office this morning: Dear Governor Taft -- I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 per copy. It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper research. I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the dept would make the records mor! e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. (2) This year, I made a! similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's records. The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have vetoed such an increase. Michael J. Burdge

Hi my brick wall is WILSON, John b @ 1780-1790 unk, wife Sara/Sarah UNK [email protected] NY ?, Issue Ann J b @ 1814,Oh,Married Tos POLLOCK moved to Stephenson co IL.before 1840; Hannah B @1817Oh,Died Nov 1847; William H b @ 1816 to Stephenson co Ill; George B @ 1819,married to Cynthia Batterson, 1844 Scioto co OH. moved to Washington Co Ia.pre 1850; John b @ 1821 moved to Stephenson co Il. Eliza wife to Edward Dodge, moved to Stephenson co Il. Edwin D.Feb 1858, Charles B @1811 moved to Stephenson co Il, father John D May 1848 Scioto Co after moving from Adams Co Oh. buried on Wilson farm in brush creek twp, would sure use help in locating what happened to John's wife Sarah,after his death, she was living in portsmouth in 1850 census, I have been to portsmouth looking for John's will but it's missing thank you ,KS Konnections.

You can also go to: http://www.naco.org/ At the top of the page click on ABOUT COUNTIES and when the menu opens click on FIND A COUNTY. This takes you the main national page with a map where you can click on the state of your choice. -------Original Message------- From: Joan L. Asche Date: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:49:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHROOTS] Good link for county info. http://www.naco.org/Template cfm?Section=Find_a_County&Template=/cffiles/counties/usamap.cfm For some reason the whole link isn't being hyperlinked in the email if the above isn't underlined starting with http: and ending at .cfm you will have to copy and paste it into your browser's address bar. Joan ==== OHROOTS Mailing List ==== Listowner Email is [email protected] or [email protected] To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHROOTS for the list name. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

http://www.naco.org/Template cfm?Section=Find_a_County&Template=/cffiles/counties/usamap.cfm For some reason the whole link isn't being hyperlinked in the email if the above isn't underlined starting with http: and ending at .cfm you will have to copy and paste it into your browser's address bar. Joan