This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grover Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WZB.2ACI/607.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for that information Vicki! I would imagine you are right about a second marriage for Orson. I Sure hope the other Grover researcher gets back with you after vacation, maybe that will shed some light on all of this. Thank you for checking on the Crane name for me! Nancy