- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 5-Jul-99 12:59 Subject: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Message about the FHC Information - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Take a minute and read this please. I'm sure it's of interest to many of us. Linda Home Page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas Marion Co AR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion Washington Co NC e-mail list: [email protected] >-----Original Message----- >From: Dolly Ziegler <[email protected]> >To: Linda Haas Davenport <[email protected] Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 11:04 PM Subject: IMPORTANT msg from Dolly:FHLC on CD for public sale ?(fwd) Hello, friends. Please excuse the mass mailing. I think it's important to respond to Michael's comment. I'll write my plea tomorrow to be able to buy the Family History Library Catalog on CD for home use. I hope you will want to do the same. Cheers, Dolly Ziegler >---------Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:46:56 -0600 >From: Michael T. Ritchey <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: FHLC on CD for public sale Hello gang, Decision makers in the Family History Department have been lately discussing the merits and pitfalls of marketing the next FHLC (Windows CD version, w/author, title, keyword searching, etc.) to the public. If you've ever wanted a copy of the FHLC for your own computer, and can't afford to sit waiting while the online version loads each view, or want to use the CD in places where you can't connect your modem to a phone line (like in libraries), you'd better start making some noise now or forever hold your peace. Some of the FHD's administrators don't see the need to market the CD version. They think there's no demand, no need for a CD version for private use, now that the online version is up. Luckily, there are some at the FHD who would like to see the thing marketed. Those of you who were involved with the testing/hair-pulling with PAF 3 know, however, that sincere, knowledgeable, low-level church employees' recommendations are not always heeded by the administrators. They need your individual voices to back them up. If you want to help propel the CD-ROM based FHLC toward public release, <write>. Don't just tell them you want it; tell them <why>. Detail for them your personal situation -- why the CD version would help you more than the online or FHC-limited version. Or, if you don't want it, don't say anything, and you'll get your wish. Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (if you wish to write, the address is:Family History Department, 50 East North Temple St., Salt Lake City Utah 84150) ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. !^NavFont02F09440007NGHHP46ADF3

Hi Everyone, I just got home and my email box overflowed. (Sorry Joy it's empty now) If you don't get a response in a day or so just let me know. Maggie !^NavFont02F00790007NGHHG7A7A85

Hi Everyone, Happy Fourth of July. I have my web page up at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/Foj/h1index.html if you want to check it out. Caution there are a lot of graphics on this page including a fireworks display and a cowboy fourth of July picture so allow a lot of time to load. I will be out of town overnight and should be home late on Sunday so don't panic if you don't see me. I will return! Maggie !^NavFont02F0155000ENGHHGwNG68HH562F4A

Helen, This is probably a long shot but the unusual Irsh first name (Simon) caught my eye. I have a set of THE FAMINE IMMIGRANTS, which lists Irish Immigrants arriving at the port of New York, 1846-1851. In Volume II, Page 393-4 are listed the immigrants on the ship A. Z. from Liverpool, arrived at New York on May 16, 1848, and among them is Simon O'Donnell, age 30, Laborer. Also aboard is Pat O'Donell, 20, Laborer. They may be related, however, the spelling of the last name is different. Mary may have come at a later time but I think because of the dates this Simon was a generation away. Just thought I'd toss this your way and hope it's important. Al O'Brien [email protected] wrote: > > Looking for info on Walter Harvey O'Donnell who lived on Arch Street,Fremont > Ohio.m.#1 Helen Mae(or Marie) Jenkins #2 m. Dorothy (?). Children-Kathrine d. > very early in life-Marilee b.1926 d.1988 in Newark,Ohio. Marilee married > Byron Elder of Newark,Ohio 1945 3 children-Helen,Marilyn,Lynne. Could > anyone look up Walter's death certificate. He died between the period of Sept > 1958-December 1959.Would also like info on Walter's parents-Simon & Mary (?) > O'Donnell I know they were Irish and not much more. I know this is looking > for a needle in a haystack and I don't know where to start as there are no > more family members that we know of. > Thank You, Helen > > ==== OHSANDUS Mailing List ==== > This list is designed to provide a discussion forum for anyone who has an interest in Sandusky County Ohio. > To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHSANDUS for the list name.

Hi Everyone, There was an article run by the San Angelo, Texas "Standard-Times Online" about Internet Genealogy that featured, among others, myself. I have a copy up at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maggieoh/howell.htm if you want to read it. Maggie !^NavFont02F00D70016NGHHG{NG4AHG8ENGC0HGD8ED7B

- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 2-Jul-99 21:11 Subject: QExpress for Sandusky Co, Ohio ( O'DONNELL JENKINS ELDER ) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- SURNAMES: O_DONNELL JENKINS ELDER NAME: Helen EMAIL: [email protected] DATE: Jul 02 1999 QRYTEXT: Looking for info on Walter Harvey O'Donnell of Fremont,Ohio. Does anyone do look-ups? He passed away sometime between Sept. 1958-Dec.1959. Husband of Helen(Jenkins) 2nd Dorothy? Father of Kathrine & Marilee.Marilee b.1926 d.1988 m.Byron Elder of Newark,Ohio 1945.Would also like to know something of Walter's parents-Simon & Mary(?) Don't even have any kin of dates, etc for these two. Thank You Helen !^NavFont02F028B0007NGHHI8D8C08

Looking for info on Walter Harvey O'Donnell who lived on Arch Street,Fremont Ohio.m.#1 Helen Mae(or Marie) Jenkins #2 m. Dorothy (?). Children-Kathrine d. very early in life-Marilee b.1926 d.1988 in Newark,Ohio. Marilee married Byron Elder of Newark,Ohio 1945 3 children-Helen,Marilyn,Lynne. Could anyone look up Walter's death certificate. He died between the period of Sept 1958-December 1959.Would also like info on Walter's parents-Simon & Mary (?) O'Donnell I know they were Irish and not much more. I know this is looking for a needle in a haystack and I don't know where to start as there are no more family members that we know of. Thank You, Helen

- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 2-Jul-99 0:01 Subject: QExpress for Sandusky Co, Ohio - ---------------------------------------------------------------- NAME: Heidi Immel EMAIL: [email protected] DATE: Jul 01 1999 QRYTEXT: Joseph IMMEL - DOB 7Dec1892 I would like information on Joseph Immel, he lived in Gibsenburg and was the city street cleaner. I believe his wife's name was Rosa and he was born 7Dec1892. !^NavFont02F019F0007NGHHHA1E2DF

- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 1-Jul-99 21:11 Subject: QExpress for Sandusky Co, Ohio ( STEINER SCHUTT ) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- SURNAMES: STEINER SCHUTT NAME: Jeannine Hardy EMAIL: [email protected] DATE: Jul 01 1999 QRYTEXT: Need info concerning Fredericka STEINER, b. 1871 in Welzheim, Germany. She married GeorgeWilliam SCHUTT 14 May 1890 in Gibsonburg, Sandusky Co., OH. She died 18 Nov. 1928 and is buried in Union Cemetery, Gibsonburg. !^NavFont02F01E20007NGHHHE49821

- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 1-Jul-99 21:07 Subject: QExpress for Sandusky Co, Ohio ( SCHUTT ) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- SURNAMES: SCHUTT NAME: Jeannine Hardy EMAIL: [email protected] DATE: Jul 01 1999 QRYTEXT: Looking for descendents of Johann Carl Christian SCHUTT of Madison Twp., Sandusky Co. OH. His son, Carl Johann Wilhelm SCHUTT, was born in Neusendorf, Prussia in 1858 and came to America late 1883. Johann died in Cleveland 20 Oct. 1922 at the home of a son. He and his wife, Rega are buried in N. Union Cemetery, Gibsonburg. Wilhelm's wife was Fredericka STEINER. !^NavFont02F024B0007NGHHI4DC792

Hi This is from the Massachusetts Rootsweb List. I thought it was worth sending along as we Celebrate Independence Day 1999. Ruthie [email protected] Found this article on the Internet a few years ago concerning our American Independence Day and I hope there is no objection to my posting it to the List. The 4th of July is a day of celebration for most of us but I believe we should also pause a few minutes to remember. "The Price They Paid" Have you ever wondered what happened to those men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons in the Revolutionary Army, and another had two sons captured. Nine of the fifty-six fought and died from wounds or the hardship of the Revolutionary War. What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners, all men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. Carter Braxtpm of Virginia, wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the sea by the British navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam, was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and property was his reward. Vandals or soldiers or both, looted the properties of Eilery, Clymer, Hall, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge and Middeton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas NelsonJr., that the British General Cornwallis, had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. The owner quietly urged General George Washington to open fire, which was done. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and soon after she died. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his grist mill were laid waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home after the war to find his wife dead, his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more , Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: " For the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of the Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortune, and our sacred honor. " They gave us an Independent America. Author Unknown I dedicate this to the memory and honor of all our ancestors, both men and women who gave their all for an Independent America. This was sent to me and I thought I would just pass it on.....Naida -- !^NavFont02F0A460007NGHHQ48E60B

We will be in the Sandusky area in about two weeks. Have many ancestors, HUSS and RATHBURN, buried in the Bakertown Cemetery. We would like directions on getting there and a phone number please. Thanks, Betty Nelson--Yuma, AZ

Hi Everyone, Does anyone have a copy of the following book or access to it? Maggie VOLUME 1 Beers History of the Great Lakes, Published Chicago, IL 1899 Index Volume 1 Information ranges from a mere mention of the person , in reports of involvement in ship wrecks, people in business dealings, engineers, carpenters, first settlers, to death and family members, anywhere in the reach of the Great Lakes. The index begins with chapter 10, Commerce of the Great Lakes, first mention is of 1789. !^NavFont02F01980007NGHHH997601

From: Merle Rummel <[email protected]> Some of you have been asking about the Brethren -here's a brief history that I've had on the net before: - --------------------------- The Dunkers About 1680, a Revival started from the University of Halle, in Germany. Its intent was to bring the "Old" Churches back to living what the Bible teaches. Two phrases were common: "Primitive Christianity" - the example of the 1st Century Church (Acts); and "Imitation of Christ" -for personal living. Two churches came out of it in Germany: the Moravian Brethren -eastern Germany; and the German Baptist Brethren (1708)(Dunkers) -western Germany. Alexander Mack, a miller, is considered our founder. We try to practice literally what Jesus taught us to do. John Wesley went down to the Moravian Brethren, and similarly went back to England with a "Method" of living -the Methodist. Persecution was fierce -and the Dunkers fled. First they hid among the Anabaptist/Mennonites in Germany, then they followed the Mennonites to Germantown PA. The first shipload was 1719. Our Anabaptist heritage resulted in us being one of the "Plain People" and "Pennsylvania Dutch". In 1803, a Universalist Preacher said that we are God's People on Earth, that we SHOW in our life, what we SAY we Believe. The Brethren quickly spread out into Berks and Lancaster Counties. For more than a century, the Brethren were on the far frontier in America. They went to middle Pennsylvania: Morrisons Cove, and farther west -Brothers Valley (Somerset Co PA). Our people founded a migration route across E. Maryland, along the Monocacy River, crossed the Potomac at Harpers Ferry and down the Valley of Virginia, to the Carolinas and Tennessee, with many churches still in these areas. The Brethren settler was one of the very first into many areas, like the Boones in Kentucky, later whole communities following the first families. My Church, east of Cincinnati (1795), was the start of movement up into the Northwest Territory. A large Brethren Community of many churches is around Dayton OH (1805), another in Northern and Western Indiana (1835) and Northern Illinois. Colonies were started in Iowa (1855), Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas. Brethren went on the Oregon Trail to the Northwest in the 1840s, and a large settlement is in Southern California. We were German speaking peoples, among the German settlers, the Methodists and soon the Baptists were right with us, among the English peoples. Following the Civil War and the expansion west to the Pacific, the Industrial Revolution hit the church hard. There was considerable disagreement over what the meaning of relation to (or separation from) the World should mean. About 1880 the result was a 3-way split. The Old German Baptist Brethren retain the old ways of life, including church worship and dress. I love what Bro Flory, Elder at the Prices Creek GBB Church (OH) said, in response to my question about the Plain Garb: "It forces me to Always Remember that I am different from this world!" The Church of the Brethren began community and world service as witness of our Savior's teachings of Love, and our opposition to Force and War. This has become an important demonstration of our Christian Life. The First Brethren led into "modern" concepts of Sunday Schools and Revivals, but are very fundamental in the practice and belief of the New Testament Faith. The three denominations have themselves suffered division and splits, but one theme seems the same -Jesus said it - We are all BRETHREN! In the modern world, we give our witness in many ways. The Brethren have been the origin of many assistance and relief groups. The Peace Corps copied, and use for its leaders, our Brethren Volunteer Service youth. We formed Brethren Service to help needy people around the world, and Church World Service uses our facility at New Windsor MD -for shipping medicine, clothing, emergency aid. Heifers for Relief was started by the Brethren. CROP, Christian Rural Overseas Project, is another of our beginnings. It was said, following World War II, that the Brethren were better known in devastated Europe, than we were in our own United States. I myself heard Martin Luther King speak at the March on Washington, 1963 (his "I Have a Dream"). Our Brethren Volunteers work in the Inner City -in settlement houses, with slum cleanup, and kindergartens. We are in retirement homes, to the Indian Reservations, in the Kentucky Mountains - there are Volunteers and Missions overseas. We believe in "helping our neighbor" where-ever he is - here and away. We believe we are responsible to SHOW Jesus -in US. Merle Rummel Church Historian ==== BRETHREN Mailing List ==== !^NavFont02F0F470007NGHHV4900C9

http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/20472.html http://www.internetnews.com/wd-news/article/0,1087,10_147231,00.html If you have a site on GeoCities, you absolutely must read these articles. They are saying that GeoCites owns all webpages and images hosted by them.. !^NavFont02F00FA0007NGHHGFCDAD8

- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 29-Jun-99 18:19 Subject: Conococheague - ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: Merle Rummel <[email protected]> OK - I'm home -- got my son married at Newark Del, Sunday I'm sorting through 250 Brethren messages -and slowly answering some of them. I stopped at Elizabethtown College -for the first time!!! Coming west, I followed sections of the Old Wagon Road, that I'd not been on. I need to do more checking -but: I suggest that the route of US 30, from York PA to Gettysburg, Chambersburg and McConnellsburg, is a later route and not the original Old Wagon Road down the Valley, or Forbes Road to Pittsburg (he essentially started his road from Bedford, using existing trails east of there). Fort Loudon would have been a reason to establish a more direct route from the Conococheague, thus the route of US 30 (and I am sure there were early Indian paths that it followed), but that fort was after our Brethren were in the area. >From the lay of the land, and ease of route for horses and wagons - I think I will find that: the original route west started by going down the Monocacy Road from York (PA 116). At Hanover, where the Monocacy Road continued to Littlestown and down to Taneytown in Maryland (PA 194), the Old Wagon Road turned west to Gettysburg, continuing on the route of PA 116. This goes west through Gettysburg on a different street from old US 30, and out west -southwest to Fairfield and Zora. I tried a cut across to Fountain Dale -which turned out to cross a ridge of the Mountain/Hill -which the early route would not have done -and determined that the Old Wagon Road would have gone the easier way, down to Zora where PA 16 goes west to Fountain Dale and Waynesboro. It might have used the route from Waynesboro to Hagarstown (PA 316/MD 60), but I continued on PA 16 to Greencastle and US 11. (I wanted to see Zullinger, on the ridge it turns out, where some of my Rummel's stopped about 1800, while coming out to Youngstown OH.) I would be interested in seeing which was the easier route to cross the ridge to the Conococheague -which the early settlers would have used from Lancaster Co. The Old Wagon Road went down the Valley of Virginia from the Conococheague and Hagarstown. The early migration road to Bedford (and Brothers Valley, and Johnstown) continued from the Conococheague to Cove Gap (PA 16 -I have two Huston families from there at the Four Mile in Ohio/Indiana that came from the gap -one listed as Franklin Co, the other as Bedford Co). I doubt these migrants tried to climb the Mountain, the route of PA 16, but again, I didn't take the time to explore old records in that area. What I think I am seeing, is a progressive road pattern moving west. The Brethren as they migrated to the farther frontiers, seem always to have left from established Brethren communities. Since we were normally among the earliest farmers/settlers to these new areas, our migration roads became early established highways. Merle Rummel Church Historian ==== BRETHREN Mailing List ==== !^NavFont02F0A2D0006NGHHQv95A3

- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 29-Jun-99 16:15 Subject: US RECORDS CEMETRIES FOR EVERY STATE - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Sender: [email protected] HELLO I stumbled into this site and was shocked.....after all these months there is a site just for cementries. Sally <A HREF="http://www.interment.net/us/index.htm">Cemetery Records of the United States of America - Cemeteries - Cemetary - Gene </A> !^NavFont02F01BF0007NGHHHC1214E

- ---------------------------------------------------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 28-Jun-99 21:41 Subject: Re: [ARCHIVES-L] Re: BLM, Uploads & Stuff - ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joy Fisher <[email protected]> >From the National Archives: The National Archives has custody of the land entry files for all Federal Public domain states. There are Federal land records for all states EXCEPT the 13 original states plus VT, KY, TN, ME, WV, TX, and HI. These states were never part of the Federal public domain. The Eastern States have their records on-line: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ They will eventually do all of the public domain states. They started working on Iowa several months ago -- and plan to have them on-line by 2003. We received the combined data set for ND, SD, and MT and plan to have them all on-line in a matter of weeks. !^NavFont02F02FB0007NGHHIFC3284

>----- Original Message ----- >From: sandy mosley <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 7:36 PM >Subject: {not a subscriber} family tree > > >i am from Ohio, i can try and help with some names in the sandusky county >area, such as >myers, widmer, kaiser, reef i have been working on my family tree for over >20 years and have lot of information, i know some people would be interested >in >sandy > > > >

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