In a message dated 6/25/2003 2:16:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bluelaker4@cox.net writes: > Any Hoskin/Hoskins in the index? > > I am in the process of transcribing many cemeteries in Portage County and have come across many Hoskin/Hoskins. There's a list of surnames that I've transcribed so far on my site: <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ohiocem">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ohiocem</A> Hope this helps! Chris

Hm, I don't have a Laban that I know of. But if he's in Portage County, he's related somehow! If it's not too much trouble, if you'd type it up for me (short, yes?) I'll put it where I can find it when I can link him to my Hoskin/s. Thanks! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Leadfoot65@aol.com> To: <OHPORTAG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [OHPort'ge] Portage Heritage Book > The only mention so far of HOSKIN/HOSKINS is for a LABAN HOSKINS. It's a > little poem about him in the Hiram section. > > Let me know if you would like a copy. I will keep your name in case I come > across it later on. > > > Briana Caccamo > > > ==== OHPORTAG Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that might put a crack in > your wall? Remember, day & night, the RootsWeb Archives are usually > open to browse or search. Go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thank you, I'll go check it out right now! Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <OHCemeteries@aol.com> To: <OHPORTAG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [OHPort'ge] Portage Heritage Book > In a message dated 6/25/2003 2:16:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > bluelaker4@cox.net writes: > > > Any Hoskin/Hoskins in the index? > > > > > > I am in the process of transcribing many cemeteries in Portage County and > have come across many Hoskin/Hoskins. There's a list of surnames that I've > transcribed so far on my site: > > <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ohiocem">http://freepages.gen ealogy.rootsweb.com/~ohiocem</A> > > Hope this helps! > Chris > > > ==== OHPORTAG Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that might put a crack in > your wall? Remember, day & night, the RootsWeb Archives are usually > open to browse or search. Go to: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks to everyone who has helped me in my endeavor to find Elisha, it is greatly appreciated! I have some new leads and will hopefully learn more about him in the near future. Thanks again! Jan

HI, Is someone doing some lookups from this book? I would like to know, I am from Portage county myself and interested in one surname. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant10109@aol.com To: OHPORTAG-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:53 PM Subject: [OHPort'ge] Portage Heritage Book Briana I too would be interested in surnames mentioned in the Portage Heritage Book. They are CRAIG, COLE and NOAH. As to the Craig's all I have is that Uriah Craig (2Ggrandfather) was born Ohio (per census) and married a Rebecca COLE, daughter of Jedediah COLE and Elizabeth NOAH Cole. Jedediah, possibly born Vermont, came to Ohio about 1815-1820 and the Noah family came earlier. The Noah's and Cole's were in Nelson Township. To repeat another listers question, is the book available thru interlibrary loan? Thank you, Sharrie Grant Kansas City, MO ==== OHPORTAG Mailing List ==== ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Briana I too would be interested in surnames mentioned in the Portage Heritage Book. They are CRAIG, COLE and NOAH. As to the Craig's all I have is that Uriah Craig (2Ggrandfather) was born Ohio (per census) and married a Rebecca COLE, daughter of Jedediah COLE and Elizabeth NOAH Cole. Jedediah, possibly born Vermont, came to Ohio about 1815-1820 and the Noah family came earlier. The Noah's and Cole's were in Nelson Township. To repeat another listers question, is the book available thru interlibrary loan? Thank you, Sharrie Grant Kansas City, MO

Elijah Carrier found in: Census Microfilm Records: Connecticut, Rhode Island, 1800 State: Connecticut County: LITCHFIELD Locale: CANAAN Series: M32 Roll: 2 Part: 1 Page: 52 Carrier, Elisha View Image Online State: Connecticut Year: 1810 County: Litchfield Roll: M252_2 Township: Goshen Page: 76 Image: 78 Carrier, Elijah View Image Online State: Connecticut Year: 1820 County: Litchfield Roll: M33_1 Township: Canaan Page: 369 Image: 291 212201/20101/03 Elijah II Carrier found in: Census Microfilm Records: Connecticut, Rhode Island, 1820 State: Connecticut County: LITCHFIELD Locale: GOSHEN Series: M33 Roll: 1 Part: 1 Page: 315 Questions asked in the 1820 Census Name of family head; number of free white males in age categories 0 to 10, 10 to 16, 16 to 18, 16 to 26, 26 to 45, 45 and older; free white females 0 to 10, 10 to 16, 16 to 26, 26 to 45, 45 and older; number of other free persons except Indians not taxed; number of slaves; and town or district and county of residence. Additionally, the 1820 census for the first time asked the number of free white males 16 to 18; number of persons not naturalized; number engaged in agriculture, commercial, or manufacture; number of “colored” persons (sometimes in age categories); and number of other persons except Indians. ---------------------- . Carrier, Elisha View Image Online State: Connecticut Year: 1830 County: Litchfield Roll: M19_11 Township: Warren Page: 374 Image: 720 0010001000000/100001000 List of Voters Portage Co 1816-1856 George Carrier 1851 Brimfield The Genealogy of the Benedicts in America page 317 RUTH, b. 1806; m. Elijah Carrier; Pioneers from Massachusetts page 19 CARRIER, Elijah, b. 1798; set Ct., N. Y. Hillsdale Port., 582. Benedict?? Ruth, b. 1807; m. Elijah Carrier of Conn. and N. Y. Hillsdale Port., 582. ----------------------------

Shirley I am not the one indexing the names - Briana is. Jan > Jan, > In a reply to some census requests, you mentioned a book, Portage > Heritage, which you are indexing. My GGgrandfather, John Stitt, his wife > Laura and 2 sons Dwight and Henry are supposed to have come to Portage > Co. Western Reserve, in 1838 where they lived for 10 years and then moved > on the Fulton Co. I can find them in Fulton Co., but not Portage Co. If > you run across that name, I would appreciate your letting me know. Is the > book one that I could find on an interlibrary loan? > > Thank you for any information you can give me. > > Sincerely, Lil DeHart > Dexter, MI > >

Any Hoskin/Hoskins in the index? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Grant10109@aol.com> To: <OHPORTAG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:53 AM Subject: [OHPort'ge] Portage Heritage Book > Briana > I too would be interested in surnames mentioned in the Portage Heritage Book. > They are CRAIG, COLE and NOAH. As to the Craig's all I have is that Uriah > Craig (2Ggrandfather) was born Ohio (per census) and married a Rebecca COLE, > daughter of Jedediah COLE and Elizabeth NOAH Cole. Jedediah, possibly born > Vermont, came to Ohio about 1815-1820 and the Noah family came earlier. The > Noah's and Cole's were in Nelson Township. > > To repeat another listers question, is the book available thru interlibrary > loan? > > Thank you, > > Sharrie Grant > Kansas City, MO > > > ==== OHPORTAG Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am researching my grandfather, Abraham Karling born 24 December 1875 in Rantsila Finland. He settled in Upper Michigan and was a farmer all his life until his death in 1953. I know he had a sister Anna Lisa Karling born in 1879 in Rantsila Finland who settled in the Garretsville, Hiram Ohio area. Her married name was Warner. I would be interested in info concerning her and her family. Thank you Karen Mattson Vicinanza, Rome Italy

Jan, In a reply to some census requests, you mentioned a book, Portage Heritage, which you are indexing. My GGgrandfather, John Stitt, his wife Laura and 2 sons Dwight and Henry are supposed to have come to Portage Co. Western Reserve, in 1838 where they lived for 10 years and then moved on the Fulton Co. I can find them in Fulton Co., but not Portage Co. If you run across that name, I would appreciate your letting me know. Is the book one that I could find on an interlibrary loan? Thank you for any information you can give me. Sincerely, Lil DeHart Dexter, MI

Hi Will I believe Elisha was born about 1768. I don't recall ever seeing his name on the rolls for RW soldiers. He was probably too young. I appreciate your writing. Jan > Jan, > If your Elisha fought in the Revolutionary war he may have been entitled to > some free land in Ohio. The part of Ohio that Brimfield is located in was > originally called the Western Reserve. The land was set aside to be given > or sold > at very cheap prices to soldiers who fought in the Revolutionary War. > > Will >

Jackie Thank you for this information, I really appreciate it! Now I am trying to narrow down when they left Connecticut as the last time Elisha shows up on the CT census is 1810. More work needs to be done, but at least I have a start. Jan > Hi Jan: In the 1885 Portage County History there is an article on Joseph > L. > Carrier son of Lucius and Orilla Emerson Carrier, and his grandfather was > Elisha Carrier a native of Connecticut who settled in Brimfield

Jan-- I am currently working on an every name index for the book, Portage Heritage, published in 1957 by the Portage County Historical Society--I have finished with Brimfield Township and here are the Carrier entries that are listed. If you like I could copy and mail or fax you the pertinent pages. Here you go, and hope this helps you out, name page Carrier, A.W. 286 Carrier, Arthur 285 Carrier, Elmer 285, 286 Carrier, Ethel 277 Carrier, Fred 285, 286 Carrier, Jacob 306 (in Deerfield Township) Carrier, Lucius 285 Carrier, Old Father 285 Briana Caccamo Munroe Falls, OH

Hi Jan: In the 1885 Portage County History there is an article on Joseph L. Carrier son of Lucius and Orilla Emerson Carrier, and his grandfather was Elisha Carrier a native of Connecticut who settled in Brimfield. Brimfield was one of the last townships to be settled because of the swamps, and the first permanent settler came in 1816. By 1835 there were numerous families here. "From 1821 to 1840 came the following persons: old father Cairier and his son Lucius". Elisha cleared land for a farm which was passed to his grandson Joseph. Lucius died in 1842 with Joseph being his only child. Elisha died in August 1845. This county was largely settled by people from New England, especially Connecticut, not only because it was the Connecticut Western Reserve but also because of lack of work and land in Connecticut. It wasn't just the pioneer spirit but economic reasons that led people to this area. I hope this has been helpful. Jackie

Jan, If your Elisha fought in the Revolutionary war he may have been entitled to some free land in Ohio. The part of Ohio that Brimfield is located in was originally called the Western Reserve. The land was set aside to be given or sold at very cheap prices to soldiers who fought in the Revolutionary War. Will

Hi Jeff I appreciate the information. I will have to see if I can find the book on Portage County at the genealogical library. Elisha Carrier has been an enigma. I have yet to find out who his parents were or what siblings he may have had. However, there was a Betsy Carrier in Brimfield on the 1840 & 1850 census. She is listed as being born in "CT." So your theory may very well be correct in that a relative of some sort was already there or perhaps they came together. Thanks again for responding. Jan in Connecticut > There was a canal boom in this part of Ohio beginning 1835 or so--the canal > would pass through Kent, which is in a township adjacent to Brimfield. But > in general, many if not most of the early settlers of the Western Reserve > were Connecticut people. I'm researching a Bolton, CT couple who moved to > Charlestown, Portage County in 1834, when they were in their fifties. When > they arrived they were housed, I think, by relatives. Did your man have a > daughter, by chance, who settled in Brimfield? Maybe he moved to live with > her and her family. > > There's an 1885 History of Portage County by Warner, Beers and Co. that's a > big book with lots of township info. You might be able to find excepts > online. > > Good luck, > > Jeff > >

There was a canal boom in this part of Ohio beginning 1835 or so--the canal would pass through Kent, which is in a township adjacent to Brimfield. But in general, many if not most of the early settlers of the Western Reserve were Connecticut people. I'm researching a Bolton, CT couple who moved to Charlestown, Portage County in 1834, when they were in their fifties. When they arrived they were housed, I think, by relatives. Did your man have a daughter, by chance, who settled in Brimfield? Maybe he moved to live with her and her family. There's an 1885 History of Portage County by Warner, Beers and Co. that's a big book with lots of township info. You might be able to find excepts online. Good luck, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <Whigmaster@aol.com> To: <OHPORTAG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: [OHPort'ge] Brimfield - Carrier family > Anyone have knowledge of why someone would remove from CT to Brimfield around > 1835 at the age of 67? Elisha Carrier b. about 1768 in CT. I can find him up > until 1810 in Litchfield County, CT. I don't know where he is in 1820 or 1830 > but by 1835 he shows up in the records of Brimfield. Were there a lot of > settlers coming to Brimfield from Connecticut during this time. Can anyone direct > me to a source where I can learn why people were removing to Brimfield? Any > help appreciated. > > Jan > > > ==== OHPORTAG Mailing List ==== > Don't overlook the broad resources available from RootsWeb, > WorldGenWeb, Ancestry, GEN-UKI or other sites on the World Wide Web. > If you don't know where to look, you never will if you don't ask! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Anyone have knowledge of why someone would remove from CT to Brimfield around 1835 at the age of 67? Elisha Carrier b. about 1768 in CT. I can find him up until 1810 in Litchfield County, CT. I don't know where he is in 1820 or 1830 but by 1835 he shows up in the records of Brimfield. Were there a lot of settlers coming to Brimfield from Connecticut during this time. Can anyone direct me to a source where I can learn why people were removing to Brimfield? Any help appreciated. Jan

IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have any chance fo stopping this increase. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then you should immeidately contact your state senators and representatives and ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it within just a day or two). Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. If yoiu want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include your snail mail address. (I included mine.) Thanks Mick Burdge Dayton, Ohio Governors email address: Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us His office phone numbers: (614) 466-3555 (614) 644-0957 Yoiu can find your state senators & representatives here: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ My email to his office this morning: Dear Governor Taft -- I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 per copy. It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper research. I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the dept would make the records mor! e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. (2) This year, I made a! similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's records. The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have vetoed such an increase. Michael J. Burdge