Thank you, I have read the article you cited in the Scioto paper. That line of PETTYs I suspect as being related somehow, somewhere, but cannot find anything to document it! I need a connection. I have pondered over this group looking for some sibling who might have been my Joseph's father, but all to no avail. The similarity of the family names makes me think they have to be shirttail if nothing more. Marjory PETTY Austen