Miriam, The Perry County Probate Court Records list the following births: Kramer, John P. b.26 Feb 1876 to John P. Kramer & Eva Spoore, Coal Twp. Lee, H. b.20 Aug 1903 to John P. Kramer & Margaret White, Coal Tp. Ann A. b.03 Nov 1905 to " " " " " , Coal Tp. John b.14 Jan 1875 to John Kramer & Elizabeth Hork, Coal Twp. Kramer, Ruth b. 23 Jan 1915 to John P. Kramer & Margaret White, Coal Twp Evelyn E. b. 8 Feb 1917 to " " " " " " " The Probate Court Records also list the following marriage: Kramer, John P. to Margaret White in 1902 in Perry County. Note that the Every Name Index for the 1900 Perry County Census lists a John P. Kremer and Eva C. Kremer as living in Coal Twp. (pg 037B). It also lists Frank and Lucy. I suspect the spelling Kremer results from either a reading or a typing error. Also, the Book listing Burials in Coal Township Cemeteries includes: KRAMER, John Peter Sr. Sept 7, 1839 - June 28, 1895 Eva Christine April 15, 1853 - Feb. 28, 1919 Susan Catherine July 25, 1874 - Oct. 2, 1899 All of these books are in print and are available to use or purchase in the Perry County Chapter - Ohio Genealogical Library in New Lexington. For a full listing of books in print, I suggest you log onto: http://www.perrygenealogy.net and click on the "Books in Print" page. Hope this helps. Daine Maxwell DCMAX2@aol.com