KENNIE MY GR GR GRANDFATHER WAS AARON ANGLE B 1824 D 1893 IN LAWRENCE CO IL MARRIED TP PHOEBA HAD ONE SON THAT I KNOW OF GEORGE W ANGLE B 6/25/1845 M REBECCA HARDWICK. THEY WERE ON THE 1860 CENSUS AS LIVING IN READING TOWNSHIP. GEORGE HAD ONE SON BORN IN 1881 IN PERRY COUNTY AND ONE SON BORN IN 1884 IN RUSHVILLE (FAIRFIELD CO) OHIO. ALSO HAD TWO DAUGHTERS AND ANOTHER SON. GARY

Hi Gary: I have a John Paul Angle in my background from Jackson Twp. Perry Co., Ohio Give me a note back Kennie

I AM LOOKING FOR ANY INFORMATION ON THE ANGLES IN PERRY AND FAIRFIELD COUNTIES AROUND 1830 TO 1880 THANKS GARY

----- Original Message ----- From: Cindy Hughart To: Arthur Laube ; OHLICKIN ; OHPERRY Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Sarah ORR 1838-1901 Sarah ORR born March 19, 1838 Saint-Sylvestre, Lotbinere, PQ, Canada. Died Feb 1901 Boulder, Jefferson Co., MT. Married Isaac Wilson McKague. If you'd like further info let me know. I have photos of this Sarah ORR if you find that you are related and would like one scanned. Thanks! Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Laube" <zurlauben@mindspring.com> To: "Cindy Hughart" <cydhug@pacbell.net>; "OHLICKIN" <OHLICKIN-L@rootsweb.com>; "OHPERRY" <OHPERRY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:23 AM Subject: Sarah Orr m: Isaac McKague dates? > Cindy - post some some dates and places - if you don't know for sure work > out approximate date for his birth or marriage and guess at where he was > born or where he lived and died-list any suspected descendants with the same > info - > > Remember my initial message asking about Samuel Orr - I listed the facts > that I did know - Over twenty researchers answered me - and change the > subject of your posting. You are no longer inquiring about Samuel Orr b: > 1834. good luck Hal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy Hughart" <cydhug@pacbell.net> > To: "Arthur Laube" <zurlauben@mindspring.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: Samuel Orr b: 1834 > > > > Hi, > > I have a great great grandmother, Sarah ORR who married Isaac MCKAGUE. > I'm > > wondering if there is a connection? > > > > Thanks! > > Cindy Hughart >

Cindy - post some some dates and places - if you don't know for sure work out approximate date for his birth or marriage and guess at where he was born or where he lived and died-list any suspected descendants with the same info - Remember my initial message asking about Samuel Orr - I listed the facts that I did know - Over twenty researchers answered me - and change the subject of your posting. You are no longer inquiring about Samuel Orr b: 1834. good luck Hal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Hughart" <cydhug@pacbell.net> To: "Arthur Laube" <zurlauben@mindspring.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:34 PM Subject: Re: Samuel Orr b: 1834 > Hi, > I have a great great grandmother, Sarah ORR who married Isaac MCKAGUE. I'm > wondering if there is a connection? > > Thanks! > Cindy Hughart

Perry County Tribune August 1/01 HOOPS Delmer , Crooksville, born 1907 - s/o Ezra & Erma Hoops, h/o Mae Everheart NELSON Florence, Crooksville, age 85. August 8, 2001 BARKER Mary Ann, Lakeland, FL, d/o Wayne Dupler & Verna Forgave. HENNESSEY Patrick J., CA s/o John & Mary Hennessey ZARTMAN Kenneth, New Carlisle, OH born Feb 6, 1917, s/o Raymond & Mattie Hammers Zartman Details may be obtained from the Perry County Chapter OGS. Carole williams@sunet.net

Perry County Tribune August 1/01 HOOPS Delmer , Crooksville, born 1907 - s/o Ezra & Erma Hoops, h/o Mae Everheart NELSON Florence, Crooksville, age 85. August 8, 2001 BARKER Mary Ann, Lakeland, FL, d/o Wayne Dupler & Verna Forgave. HENNESSEY Patrick J., CA s/o John & Mary Hennessey ZARTMAN Kenneth, New Carlisle, OH born Feb 6, 1917, s/o Raymond & Mattie Hammers Zartman Details may be obtained from the Perry County Chapter OGS. Carole williams@sunet.net

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Hi Charlie, Actually, we have corresponded twice before on the Joneses. I don't see any connection on the JONES side at all. I have Owen (b. 1828) and Harriett (b. 1827) JONES who came from Wales, settled in Pomeroy in Meigs County, and then went to Shawnee in about 1872. I also had David JONES, a coal miner from Wales, who was in the New Straitsville census in 1880. I agree with your earlier assessment that we don't seem to have a connection. Regarding the PRICE surname, Harriett PRICE JONES was Owen's wife ... Jim -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Moore [mailto:mailman@citcom.net] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:05 PM To: OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHPerry] surnames for Perry co Jim, Hello! Take a look at the date of your original email below! This is what happens when I file something away and forget to go back and review...... Anyway, I don't know if we have a connection or not. I have JONES and PRICE lines, the JONES' being from Perry Co. via Welsh lineage (at least that's what I understand it to be). You can see the GenReports I have on these lines at: http://www.geocites.com/pm28766/jonesgen.html and http://www.geocites.com/pm28766/pricegen.html Let me know if you have any trouble getting to these links, OK? And let me know if you see anyone familiar at either one of them, too. Thanks! Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Jim" <Jim.Joseph@actel.com> To: <OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [OHPerry] surnames for Perry co > My surname interest list is > > JOSEPH, WILLIAMS, JONES, PRICE, QUAYLE > > These were all Welsh coal mining families in Shawnee or New Straitsville > after 1870. > > Jim Joseph ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== *** Perry County, Ohio Resources: *** Perry Co. Ohio USGenWeb: http://www.perrygenealogy.net/ Genealogy & Historical Info for Perry Co.: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tfisher/tefishermain.htm OhioBicentennial.com: http://www.ohiobicentennial.com/

Maybe it's too much to hope for. I could not get either web site to work, getting an "under Construction" note for each one. I have both a PRICE and DAVIS in my line, but in Licking County. Margaret PRICE (b. 13 Mar 1844, Welsh Hills, Licking, Ohio; d. 2 Jan 1933; buried Welsh Hills Cem., Granville, Licking, Ohio) married Samuel A. DAVIS (b. 13 Mar 1839, Ohio; d. 7 Jan 1919, Newark Twp., Licking, Ohio; buried Welsh Hills Cem., Granville, Ohio). It was his second marriage. Samuel was the son of David Evan DAVIS and Isabella WILLIAMS, both born in Cardiganshire, Wales. Margaret was the daughter of Isaac PRICE and Ann ?? If this looks at all familiar, please let me know. Thanks Gary Batavia IL In a message dated 8/13/01 9:15:39 PM Central Daylight Time, mailman@citcom.net writes: > Anyway, I don't know if we have a connection or not. I have JONES and PRICE > lines, the JONES' being from Perry Co. via Welsh lineage (at least that's > what I understand it to be). > > You can see the GenReports I have on these lines at: > > http://www.geocites.com/pm28766/jonesgen.html > > and > > http://www.geocites.com/pm28766/pricegen.html > > Let me know if you have any trouble getting to these links, OK? And let me > know if you see anyone familiar at either one of them, too. > > Thanks! > > Charlie >

Good Evening All, Another find in my grandmothers estate. A 1935 plat map of Perry Co. In really bad shape, but legible. The original is 4'x4'. I'm going to photograph one township, 4 sections at a time. I just put Monday Creek Twp. on the web at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tfisher/tefishermain.htm I'll get to the others as I can, but may be a while. Enjoy. Tim Timothy E. Fisher OhioBicentennial.com http://www.ohiobicentennial.com

Jim, Hello! Take a look at the date of your original email below! This is what happens when I file something away and forget to go back and review...... Anyway, I don't know if we have a connection or not. I have JONES and PRICE lines, the JONES' being from Perry Co. via Welsh lineage (at least that's what I understand it to be). You can see the GenReports I have on these lines at: http://www.geocites.com/pm28766/jonesgen.html and http://www.geocites.com/pm28766/pricegen.html Let me know if you have any trouble getting to these links, OK? And let me know if you see anyone familiar at either one of them, too. Thanks! Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Jim" <Jim.Joseph@actel.com> To: <OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [OHPerry] surnames for Perry co > My surname interest list is > > JOSEPH, WILLIAMS, JONES, PRICE, QUAYLE > > These were all Welsh coal mining families in Shawnee or New Straitsville > after 1870. > > Jim Joseph

Hal, I looked through the 1880 census for Perry Co. and did not find Samuel Orr, unless it was on a page that is illegible (don't think so, but a possibility nonetheless). Anyone have an 1880 census index in case I missed the entry? Best Regards, Angela Kneller - angela@kneller.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Laube To: OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: [OHPERRY] Samuel Orr b: abt. 1740 Samuel Orr b: abt. 1740 was a Brethren Minister, I believe in Perry County, Ohio, or nearby. He had a daughter Birdie M. Orr born 1876 died 1949. Could someone look him up in 1880 Ohio census that would give his date and state of birth, wife's name and location, as well as where his parents were born. We have a candidate Orr family in Bowling Green Township, Licking County to be his parents and we do have Birdie M.'s line. She married Murray Bowser (1873-1956). These are descendants of the Bowsers who were early members of the Jonathan Creek Brethren in Hopewell Township, Perry County, Ohio. Murray and Birdie Orr Bowser were residents of Glenford. Ohio and are buried in nearby Highland Cemetery. I will be glad to list what we have if someone will look him up in the 1880 census. Not exactly quid pro quo, but I need a little help. Thanks Hal

A selected Orr line descended from early arrivals in Bowling Green Township, Licking County, Ohio. Joseph L. Orr was the eldest son of Robert and Elizabeth Jenkins Orr. Robert was the third eldest son of James and Mary Dale Orr of Orrsburg, Fayette County, Pennsylvania. James was probably born in Ulster, Northern Ireland about 1732. He married Mary Dale of Harford County, Maryland. In 1825 he died in Orrsburg and his wife followed in 1826. Robert was living in Bowling Green Township by 1804 and was the first of the Orrs to arrive from Pennsylvania. He and his wife had seven children before he hung himself in 1834. With the help of many members of Rootsweb we have recently added another connection from this Orr family to Bowsers of nearby Hopewell Township, Perry County. And this is my thank you. If the details bore you skip to the end of this outline. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Direct Descendants of Joseph L. Orr to Audrey V. Bowser 1 Joseph L. ORR Born: 1799 Died: 1868 Burial: Fairmount Presbyterian Church Cemetery. .. +Harriet TRACY Married: 1819 Burial: Probably Fairmount Presbyterian Cemetery. . ..... 2 Albert ORR ..... 2 Harvey ORR ..... 2 James ORR ..... 2 Sarah ORR ..... 2 William C. ORR Born: 1824 Died: 1893 ..... 2 George ORR Born: 1826 ..... 2 Isaac ORR Born: 1827 Died: 1869 ..... 2 Samuel McClelland ORR Born: February 8, 1834 in Bowling Green Township, Licking County. Died: September 22, 1904 in Hopewell Township, Ohio. Burial: Good Hope Lutheran - Shelley's. Many Brethren buried in this Lutheran cemetery. ......... +MARJORIE Born: 1835 Died: Bef. 1867 Married: Abt. 1853 ............ 3 Samantha ORR Born: 1854 ............ 3 William A. ORR Born: 1856 ............ 3 Geanna ORR Born: 1858 ......... +Sara J. SNIDER Born: 1848, probably in Hopewell Township, Ohio. No doubt related to Brethren ministers in the area. Died: 1914 in Hopewell Township, Ohio. Married: 1867. Burial: Good Hope Lutheran - Shelley's. Many Brethren buried in this Lutheran cemetery. ............ 3 George P ORR Born: 1868 ............ 3 Lilly B. ORR Born: 1873 ............ 3 Birdie Mattie ORR Born: 1876 Died: 1949 ................ +Murray BOWSER Born: 1873 Died: 1956 ................... 4 Dorothy BOWSER Born: April 3, 1912 ................... 4 Maude BOWSER ................... 4 Frank Harold BOWSER Born: 1899. Died: 1971 in Hopewell Township. Buried Highland Cemetery, Glenford. ....................... +Frankie Louise ROTH Born: 1900 Died: 1972 in Hopewell Township.Buried Highland Cemetery, Glenford. Married: December 20, 1920 ........................... 5 Audrey V. BOWSER ................... 4 Bessie BOWSER Born: 1907 ................... 4 Infant Son BOWSER Born: 1914 Died: 1914 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A few years ago we published a book in memory of my wife, Betty Jean Clark Laube's, maternal grandfather, Bert R. Orr of Bowling Green. With the help of her Orr relatives who were still alive, now all deceased, and especially with the help of other researchers like Helen McGaughy, we identified those Orrs who had arrived in Bowling Green Township before 1820, and many of their descendants, but by no means all of them. The Orrs that we found who had been born in Bowling Green before the middle of the 19th Century were descendants of two Orr brothers, Robert and James. The brothers were in Bowling Green Township by 1804 and 1816. We saw Orrs in nearby Perry County and two them were married into the Bowser family, but we could connect only one of them to the Orrs of Bowling Green. That one connection was the marriage of Perry B. Orr to Eva Myrtle Bowser in 1894. One of the brothers, James Orr, was his great-grandfather. But we could not find an Orr connection for Birdie M. Orr who had married Murray Bowser about 1897. Even when we wrote the Bowser book in honor of my wife's maternal grandmother, Anna Maude Bowser, of Hopewell Township, Perry County, Ohio, we still could not connect Birdie M. Orr Bowser to either of the two Orr brothers. Then we found a long lost cousin, Audrey V. Bowser ( I am going to omit her married name.) She knew her great-grandfather's name was Samuel Orr and that her grandmother's name, his daughter, was Birdie M. Orr. And we knew from Perry County cemetery records that Birdie was born in 1876. I asked for someone to look up in the 1880 Ohio census a Samuel Orr born about 1840 with a daughter Birdie M. born in 1876. There were several very prompt replies. Here is the most complete one: Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Samuel M. ORR Self M M W 46 OH Farmer Sarah J. ORR Wife F M W 31 OH George P. ORR Son M S W 12 OH Lilly B. ORR Dau F S W 7 OH Mattie B. ORR Dau F S W 4 OH Census Place: Linnville, Licking, Ohio. Source: FHL Film 1255040 National Archives Film T9-1040 Page 260D. 1880 Ohio Census. Many sent this information and I have thanked them privately. I hope this holds format - it came to me as an attachment in perfect tabular form. NOTE - Linnville, Bowling Green Township was where Samuel M. Orr's probable parents farmed. Which was very helpful. Also, the first farms of the two Orr brothers was within a stone's throw of the hamlet of Linnville. Armed with Samuel's middle initial and the actual year of his birth and his wife's name I was able to easily find him in a Lutheran cemetery in Hopewell Township, Perry County, Ohio. It is known that several near by Brethren churches buried there dead in this Lutheran cemetery. This cemetery record actually listed the wife's maiden name - Sarah J. Snyder. Samuel was said to have been a Brethren minister and that is no doubt accurate. His wife is probably descended from two Brethren ministers, Daniel and Jacob Snyder. They held meetings in their homes in Thorn and Hopewell Township in the first half of the 19th Century. Another helpful family historian surprised us by sending the 1860 census enumeration for this same Samuel, but with a different, younger, family. We assume the first wife died and Samuel remarried and began the family we see in his 1880 census. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Perhaps a note for newcomers- You will notice that when I asked for help I posted a very specific, limited, question. In addition to the 1880 census - researchers made use of the 1860 enumeration, the LDS Ancestral Files, available on the net and through the many Family History Libraries(LDS). But use the Ancestral Files only to suggest where to look for your ancestors. Notice that the 1860 census would not have identified Samuel as the father of Mattie B. or Birdie M. Orr. I also used a publication available from the Perry County OGS chapter, Hopewell and Madison Township Cemeteries. Volume 2, 1989. Such publications by the various OGS chapters and other researchers are much appreciated. Thanks to those who take the time to do them. And most crucial of all - information from living ancestors. Unless our cousin told us about her great-grandfather Samuel Orr none of this would have happened. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hope I haven't bored you. Best regards to all of those on the lists - and especially many thanks to those of you who take the time to throw a little bread upon the River of Life. Hal

I don't think I have much of what you are looking for. I had found some info on John and Catherine (WALSER) COOPERIDER, but didn't have any of their children. I also had Abraham in the list, but that was it. This has not in my direct line and has not been one of my main research lines to date. My data goes to ancestors of these folks, not descendants. If interested, I can share what I have. Please e-mail of-line. Also, what is the Cooperider book? Gary Batavia IL Researching BUTCHER, DAVIS, WHEATCRAFT, McCLURG, CHAIN, CROTINGER, BRADLEY, BECKENBAUGH, GILLESPIE in and around Licking, Knox and Perry counties In a message dated 8/13/01 12:07:18 AM Central Daylight Time, momsterr@usa.net writes: > Ah, Gary ... would your Cooperriders happen to include Catherine, d/o John > COOPERIDER and Catherine WALSER, married to Adam EIS? Or William > COOPERIDER, s/o Abraham COOPERIDER and Rosanna HOWELL, m Catherine RUSLER? > > I do have bits and pieces from the Cooperider book but keep searching for > anyone who may have information on the RUSLER and EIS families or > descendants of the above. >

I assume you meant Samuel was born about 1840 if his daughter was borm 1876. I have a Samuel McClelland Orr, b. 8 Feb 1834, Licking, OH; d. 22 Sept 1904. Samuel was the son of Joseph Orr and Harriet Tracy; ( plus 11 others) Joseph was the son of Robert Orr and Elizabeth Jinkins (only one I know if) Robert was the son of James Orr and Mary Dale (plus 13 others) If this sounds like it is in the right area, e-mail me off-line. My tie to the Orr family is through one of Samuel's nieces marrying a Cooperrider from Perry County. I don't have any info on Samuel's family. Gary Batavia IL In a message dated 8/12/01 1:06:42 PM Central Daylight Time, zurlauben@mindspring.com writes: > Samuel Orr b: abt. 1740 was a Brethren Minister, I believe in Perry County, > Ohio, or nearby. He had a daughter Birdie M. Orr born 1876 died 1949. > > Could someone look him up in 1880 Ohio census that would give his date and > state of birth, wife's name and location, as well as where his parents were > born. > > We have a candidate Orr family in Bowling Green Township, Licking County to > be his parents and we do have Birdie M.'s line. She married Murray Bowser > (1873-1956). These are descendants of the Bowsers who were early members of > the Jonathan Creek Brethren in Hopewell Township, Perry County, Ohio. > Murray and Birdie Orr Bowser were residents of Glenford. Ohio and are > buried in nearby Highland Cemetery. > >

>My tie to > the Orr family is through one of Samuel's nieces marrying a Cooperrider from > Perry County. I don't have any info on Samuel's family. Ah, Gary ... would your Cooperriders happen to include Catherine, d/o John COOPERIDER and Catherine WALSER, married to Adam EIS? Or William COOPERIDER, s/o Abraham COOPERIDER and Rosanna HOWELL, m Catherine RUSLER? I do have bits and pieces from the Cooperider book but keep searching for anyone who may have information on the RUSLER and EIS families or descendants of the above. Sandy

thanks gary

Samuel Orr b: abt. 1740 was a Brethren Minister, I believe in Perry County, Ohio, or nearby. He had a daughter Birdie M. Orr born 1876 died 1949. Could someone look him up in 1880 Ohio census that would give his date and state of birth, wife's name and location, as well as where his parents were born. We have a candidate Orr family in Bowling Green Township, Licking County to be his parents and we do have Birdie M.'s line. She married Murray Bowser (1873-1956). These are descendants of the Bowsers who were early members of the Jonathan Creek Brethren in Hopewell Township, Perry County, Ohio. Murray and Birdie Orr Bowser were residents of Glenford. Ohio and are buried in nearby Highland Cemetery. I will be glad to list what we have if someone will look him up in the 1880 census. Not exactly quid pro quo, but I need a little help. Thanks Hal

Rushville is still a thriving little village on SR 664 about 5-6 miles north of Bremen in Fairfield County. There is also a neighbor called West Rushville. There is only a hollow or gulley, (we call them hollers) between the two. You should be able to find it on any current Ohio map. I am the same person who told about Middletown and Rushville is only about 10-12 miles from our home in the other direction from Middletown. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: BaarHtr@aol.com <BaarHtr@aol.com> To: OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com <OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [OHPERRY] RUSHVILLE, Ohio >NOW THAT THE PROBLEM OF MIDELETOWN HAS BEEN SOLVED CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE >RUSHVILLE IS OR I THINK WAS? >THANKS >GARY > > >==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== >*** Perry County, Ohio Resources: *** >Perry Co. Ohio USGenWeb: http://www.perrygenealogy.net/ >Genealogy & Historical Info for Perry Co.: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tfisher/tefishermain.htm >OhioBicentennial.com: http://www.ohiobicentennial.com/ > >