Hi all I would suspect people would know their own age and of course people could lie about their age for various reasons. I think one of the reasons ages are sometimes off is that the census taker asked someone else ie. the kids/neighbors. How many eleven year olds know how old their parents are? Father's out in the far field and maybe mother too and who's left at the house when the census taker arrives? The kid would most likely know how old his siblings were. Barbara Brea CA At 07:40 AM 4/19/02 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Misty, >Yes, that is when you would use abt. I've noticed on the census that the ages >don't coincide with an individual from 10 years before. It must be that >people >didn't tell the truth about their ages (for whatever reason), census taker >mistakes or maybe some people just didn't know their accurate age. Who knows. >Maybe some other people on this list could give a different slant to this.

I might add my 2 cents worth -- I'm researching BEERY in Perry Co., and I have found many of them in records listed as Berry -- so yes, you have to look at ALL options...... Brenda Van Dyke bjvd@columbus.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: sherole [mailto:sherole@dragonbbs.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:40 AM To: OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHPERRY] Marriage Records Hi Misty, Yes, that is when you would use abt. I've noticed on the census that the ages don't coincide with an individual from 10 years before. It must be that people didn't tell the truth about their ages (for whatever reason), census taker mistakes or maybe some people just didn't know their accurate age. Who knows. Maybe some other people on this list could give a different slant to this. Also, have you tried other spellings of Barry? Census takers spelled phonetically sometimes. Try Berry. There are a lot of people in this area with the last name of Berry. I go to the archives in Logan to look up my ancestors in the old books. The same thing takes place there. The people who transcribed the record did it in long hand and the same people I'm tracing will have many different spellings of first and last names. Some of the people in the "old days" didn't even know how to spell their own names. My Grandfather didn't and he signed his name with an X. You can imagine the census takers and transcribers back then just spelling the last names the way they heard it. There were a lot of people from foreign countries too who couldn't speak English or their English was broken. Most birth dates in Ohio were not recorded until 1867 when it became law to do so. Sherole MistySkye wrote: > You are more than generous.... :) I will definantly look into Robert > L... I understand what you mean about the personal files.... I have found > them helpful, but do my own documentation.. > Question: What is the correct abbreviation when you find them on a census > and the age is listed... but you don't have a birth record... and their age > really could be a year off depending what month they were born and what > month the census was taken..... Is abt. correct to use? > > Thanks for your help.... I'm sure you will hear from me again... But it sure > seems strange NO one else is following this line that I can find... mmmmmm > ... always knew were we a weird family.... lol.... > > Thanks again > Philla > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.346 / Virus Database: 194 - Release Date: 4/10/02 > > ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== > Browse the OHPerry list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ohperry ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from OHPERRY-L, send mail to OHPERRY-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To unsubscribe from OHPERRY-D, do the same thing with OHPERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com.

Hi Misty, Yes, that is when you would use abt. I've noticed on the census that the ages don't coincide with an individual from 10 years before. It must be that people didn't tell the truth about their ages (for whatever reason), census taker mistakes or maybe some people just didn't know their accurate age. Who knows. Maybe some other people on this list could give a different slant to this. Also, have you tried other spellings of Barry? Census takers spelled phonetically sometimes. Try Berry. There are a lot of people in this area with the last name of Berry. I go to the archives in Logan to look up my ancestors in the old books. The same thing takes place there. The people who transcribed the record did it in long hand and the same people I'm tracing will have many different spellings of first and last names. Some of the people in the "old days" didn't even know how to spell their own names. My Grandfather didn't and he signed his name with an X. You can imagine the census takers and transcribers back then just spelling the last names the way they heard it. There were a lot of people from foreign countries too who couldn't speak English or their English was broken. Most birth dates in Ohio were not recorded until 1867 when it became law to do so. Sherole MistySkye wrote: > You are more than generous.... :) I will definantly look into Robert > L... I understand what you mean about the personal files.... I have found > them helpful, but do my own documentation.. > Question: What is the correct abbreviation when you find them on a census > and the age is listed... but you don't have a birth record... and their age > really could be a year off depending what month they were born and what > month the census was taken..... Is abt. correct to use? > > Thanks for your help.... I'm sure you will hear from me again... But it sure > seems strange NO one else is following this line that I can find... mmmmmm > ... always knew were we a weird family.... lol.... > > Thanks again > Philla > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.346 / Virus Database: 194 - Release Date: 4/10/02 > > ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== > Browse the OHPerry list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ohperry

Search on Dutcher on this page. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tfisher/hocking/hvhchap45.htm Tim Timothy E. Fisher OhioBicentennial.com http://www.ohiobicentennial.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jadean46@aol.com> To: <OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: [OHPERRY] THOMAS DUTCHER > I have been researching Thomas DUTCHER for years with very little success. > Recently another researcher found a Thomas DUTCHER and his children Amanda, > Jason, Allen and Joanna on a 1850 Perry County, Ohio census. Previous to > this knowledge I had located Thomas DUTCHER in 1860 Morgan County, Ohio > census residing with his daughter (Canda) >should have been spelled Amanda > and James ALEXANDER. Also listed in that household was Jason, Allen and > Joanna DUTCHER. I am almost positive that these two families are the same. > > I would like to correspond with anyone who might have knowledge of any > DUTCHERS residing in Perry Co. Ohio during this time period or even later. > Not sure when they arrived in Perry Co. so maybe they were there before 1850. > Thomas and dau. Amanda were born in New York. > > Thank you for any help that is provided. > > Jadean Hopper > jadean46@aol.com > > > ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from OHPERRY-L, send mail to OHPERRY-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave OHPERRY-D, do the same thing with OHPERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com. > >

You are more than generous.... :) I will definantly look into Robert L... I understand what you mean about the personal files.... I have found them helpful, but do my own documentation.. Question: What is the correct abbreviation when you find them on a census and the age is listed... but you don't have a birth record... and their age really could be a year off depending what month they were born and what month the census was taken..... Is abt. correct to use? Thanks for your help.... I'm sure you will hear from me again... But it sure seems strange NO one else is following this line that I can find... mmmmmm ... always knew were we a weird family.... lol.... Thanks again Philla --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.346 / Virus Database: 194 - Release Date: 4/10/02

Hi everyone, here is my 2 cents addition to the conversation below: Family Search records are subject to the interpretation of the person transcribing them. In my case, my gggm Sarah Jane Crist was listed on the Family Search data base as Sarah J. Crier. The written index was correct. There is another weakness to the data base, it doesn't combine names with 1 letter spellings differences such as Soloman & Solomon (and in my family, these two spellings were used interchangeably). Sheila ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: sherole <sherole@dragonbbs.com> Reply-To: OHPERRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:54:46 -0400 >Hi Misty, >The records on Familysearch are usually accurate because the church goes into >the court houses and make film of the actual records. I was referring to >personal records on Ancestry and Family. When people use abt. that means >they are not sure. 13 is not too young to have a baby.smile My Grandmother >married my Grandfather in 1879, she was 13 and he was 23. Had her first >child at 14. >Good luck and if you need any look ups - let me know. >Sherole > > >FGoodner@aol.com wrote: > >> Are there marriage record books available to purchase for Perry Co.? I'm >> interested in the years from about 1850 to 1890. >> Is anyone willing to do lookups? >> Thanks, Faye >> >> ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== >> Browse the OHPerry list archives at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ohperry > > >==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== >*** Perry County, Ohio Resources: *** >Perry Co. Ohio USGenWeb: http://www.perrygenealogy.net/ >Genealogy & Historical Info for Perry Co.: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tfisher/tefishermain.htm >OhioBicentennial.com: http://www.ohiobicentennial.com/ > > ________________________________________________________________ CPAs . . . Making Sense of a Changing and Complex World.

Hi Misty, The records on Familysearch are usually accurate because the church goes into the court houses and make film of the actual records. I was referring to personal records on Ancestry and Family. When people use abt. that means they are not sure. 13 is not too young to have a baby.smile My Grandmother married my Grandfather in 1879, she was 13 and he was 23. Had her first child at 14. Good luck and if you need any look ups - let me know. Sherole FGoodner@aol.com wrote: > Are there marriage record books available to purchase for Perry Co.? I'm > interested in the years from about 1850 to 1890. > Is anyone willing to do lookups? > Thanks, Faye > > ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== > Browse the OHPerry list archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ohperry

Are there marriage record books available to purchase for Perry Co.? I'm interested in the years from about 1850 to 1890. Is anyone willing to do lookups? Thanks, Faye

I have been researching Thomas DUTCHER for years with very little success. Recently another researcher found a Thomas DUTCHER and his children Amanda, Jason, Allen and Joanna on a 1850 Perry County, Ohio census. Previous to this knowledge I had located Thomas DUTCHER in 1860 Morgan County, Ohio census residing with his daughter (Canda) >should have been spelled Amanda and James ALEXANDER. Also listed in that household was Jason, Allen and Joanna DUTCHER. I am almost positive that these two families are the same. I would like to correspond with anyone who might have knowledge of any DUTCHERS residing in Perry Co. Ohio during this time period or even later. Not sure when they arrived in Perry Co. so maybe they were there before 1850. Thomas and dau. Amanda were born in New York. Thank you for any help that is provided. Jadean Hopper jadean46@aol.com

Hi Misty, According to family search.com - Robert Barry and Lydia Palmer were married Nov. 29, 1849 in Morgan Co. not Noble Co. Sherole MistySkye wrote: > Robert Barry b: 1829 in OH.... was married in Noble to Lydia Palmer, 29 Nov > 1849.. > Need help with Robert... Parents... where in Oh he was born.... parents were > both from PA.... according to the 1850 census......... any help greatly > appreciated............ > > Philla > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.346 / Virus Database: 194 - Release Date: 4/11/02 > > ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== > *** Perry County, Ohio Resources: *** > Perry Co. Ohio USGenWeb: http://www.perrygenealogy.net/ > Genealogy & Historical Info for Perry Co.: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tfisher/tefishermain.htm > OhioBicentennial.com: http://www.ohiobicentennial.com/

Robert Barry b: 1829 in OH.... was married in Noble to Lydia Palmer, 29 Nov 1849.. Need help with Robert... Parents... where in Oh he was born.... parents were both from PA.... according to the 1850 census......... any help greatly appreciated............ Philla --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.346 / Virus Database: 194 - Release Date: 4/11/02

>From Jennifer Arn: - Ella C. Bradshaw Mechling - List VII [Glenford area] "Deaths of 1906" Jimmie Love Jan 2 Allen Swinehart Jan 3 Henry Walters Jan 16 John Humberger Jan 27 Bent Love Jan 31 Albert Orr Jan 31 Ben Dusthammer Feb 10 Samuel Castle Feb 10 Moses Sturgeon Mch 9 David Boring Mch 12 Frank Pherson's mother Mch 12 Grace Fisher Mch 14 John Snelling's mother Mch 14 Barnie Swinehart Mch 16 Sallie Mack Mch 19 Mrs Moses Sturgeon Mch 24 Tom Johnson Apr 3 Muzza McKee Apr 7 Margaret J. Cooperrider Apr 10 Nettie Iden Apr 19 John Barnett Apr 28 Harve Johnson May 9 Katie Wiseman May ll Sophia Lynn May 16 Mrs Louis Fisher May 25 Mrs Billie Bogle July 3 Mrs Elmer Cotterman July 8 George Wilson Aug 1. Elliot Ramsey Aug 2 Loyd Kelley Aug 30 Mrs Lank Swinehart Sept 21 Elizabeth Swinehart Sept 25 Harold Daugharty Sept 26 Susan Foley Sept 26 Reasin Daugharty Oct 10 Mrs David Smith Nov. 9 Hulda Denison Dec 1 Sallie Rousculp Dec 20 Daniel Teeter Dec 15 Lank Swinehart Oct 12 ---

Connie, >... my husband, Doug is a descendant of the Bradshaws of Perry County.... I'm not sure if there is a Bradshaw connection, so I'll tell you what I know about "mine": Joseph (1810-1866) and Ellen (WELCH) BRADSHAW (1817-aft1883), both born in Ireland, came to the US ca. 1848 with their 3 children, Patrick, James and Joanna (called "Joey") . Their 4th child, John (my GGgrandfather) was born in 1850 in Vermont. They lived for a short time at Elyria, Ohio, then settled in Somerset, Reading twp, Perry Co. They were Catholic. Both Patrick and James were Civil War veterans. John moved to Hopewell twp, near Glenford where he married Ann Catharine Ice in 1874. The others stayed in Somerset, I think. I know there were other Bradshaws and Welches in other parts of Perry Co. at the same time. Perhaps they immigrated together and are related, I wish I knew. Wish I could be of more help, Jennifer Arn in CA

Hello, My Grandmother, Rachel Griffith Deavers, worked as a young girl in a pottery located in Crooksville, Ohio. Could anyone tell me what the name of that one would be? Cheryl Householder Hecker

Jennifer, my husband, Doug is a descendant of the Bradshaws of Perry County. I have seen documents during my research there on your John and Ann (Ice) Bradshaw. I have not figured out how this John Bradshaw fits into our Bradshaw family but I "assume" there is a connection. Do you have your John Bradshaw's parents and/or grandparents? Doug's grandfather was Harry R. Bradshaw, the son of William A. and Edith P. (Martin) Bradshaw, the son of Thomas and Lucinda (Pettit) Bradshaw, the son of Robert and Mary (Meyers) Bradshaw. Robert died in Perry County in 1852 and is buried on the Cannon Farm in Saltillo (which was Buckeye Cottage). Would love to hear from you. Connie Bradshaw

I am researching all of the Cain's in Perry Co. Ohio but can't seem to fit this James B. Cain (see the probate record below) into one of the families. Does anyone know who he belongs to? Is there anyone else out there working on the Cain's in Perry Co. OHio--- especially John and Elizabeth Caine and their children: Lewis, Isaiah, James, John and Elizabeth's 2 girls from an earlier marriage to Jacob Mohler, Eliza and Mary. Thanks for any help, Karen My website with my Cain info is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brandt/index.html "Probate Journal, Volume 1, page 129, Perry County, Ohio-- LDS film # 0911372 Nov 23, 1853 The State of Ohio vs. James B. Cain Habeas Corpus. James B. Cain by his Attorneys O'Neil & Spencer this day comes into court and filed his application for a writ of Habias Corpus. On consideration whereof it is ordered that a ? of Habeus Corpus issue to Wm Nieboll???? commanding him to have the body of the said James B. Cain together with the day of his caption and detention also the cause thereof before this court forthwith. And on the same day, Nov 25 1853 in ? of the writ aforesaid the said James B Cain was brought before the court and the court having examined into the cause of his caption and detention and heard the arguments of counsel and being fully advised on the previous does order that the said James B. Cain be discharged from the custody of the ? Jacob J. Johnson Sheriff as aforesaid. William M Brown, Probate Judge." _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Hi fellow list members, I am trying to find out some information on Rebekah PRESTON. My family does not know what happened to her after her husband Ezekiel DAVISON passed away. We think she moved to possibly Perry, Vinton or Pickaway County OH to live with one of her children. The lineage is as follows: Ezekiel DAVISON b. 01 December 1763 Freehold, Monmouth County, NJ d. 01 August 1818 Freehold, Monmouth County, NJ, buried in the Old Tennent Churchyard, Freehold, Monmouth County, NJ m. ca. 1802 NJ to Rebekah (or Rebecca) PRESTON b. ca. 1772-1774 possibly France d. Unknown Their children: Deborah b. 1803, Algernon b. 1804, Susannah b. 1806, Joseph b. 1807, Sophia b. 1809, William b. 1811, Peter Wilson b. 1813. I have more information on Deborah, William and Peter's descendants. Deborah and Peter lived in OH when they reached adulthood. Deborah died in OH, but Peter died in KS. Some of Peter's children remained in OH. We think that Rebekah may have resided with either Deborah or her grandchildren. If anyone out there has some information on Rebekah, her parents or where she may be buried in Ohio, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Laura Davison Whitaker

(from Jennifer Arn in CA) Ella C. Bradshaw Mechling - List VI [Glenford area] "Weddings of 1905" Joseph Mooney and Mary A. Cooperrider married February 5. Paul Gordon and Ethel Ford married February 20 Wallis Cooperrider and Blanche Dixon married February 23 Herbert Ardery and Maude Bare married March 2 Fred Woodward and Grace Murdock married June 22 Will Moorhead and Maude Snider married Aug. 27 Lloyd Parks and Carrie Smith married Sept 11. Albert Love and Ada Bailey married Oct 4 Rolland Cooperrider and Wilda Shaw married Oct 12 Edward Hursey and Emma Hupp married Oct 12 Clark Cochran and Jessie Plain married Aug 7 Martin Andrews and Gussie From married Nov. 9 Scott Orr and Estella Phillips married Nov 8. Zeno [Reno?] Fisher and Iva Klingler married Nov. 9 Frank Cooperrider and Edna Kendall married Nov. 16 Dottie Smith and a man (Unknown name) married Nov. ---

Hi Rick - again, There is a John Hull on the federal census in 1800 - County,Ohio Territory - Township, Northwestern Territory. Reference, Oh. 1800 Washington Co. Census Index. John Hull - Perry co., Clayton Township 1820 pg. 14, 1830 pg. 393, 1840 pg. 99, 1850 pg. 426. John Hull Jr. 1850 pg. 424, John Hull Sr. 1850 pg. 424. Lots of John Hulls in Clayton. Must be that the 1820 and 30 is your GGGGGrandfather. John Hull Sr. 1850 your GGGGrandfather and John Hull Jr. a son of your GGGGrandfather. The 1800 Washington Co. Census was probably your family also. Perry Co. was Washington Co. until early 1800's. Hope this helps. Sherole RLCovic@aol.com wrote: > Sherole, > Could you lookup this marriage and tell me who the parents are. > John Hull m. Jane Cochran on March 13, 1833 in Perry Co, Ohio. They are my > GGGGrandparents. > > Thankyou, > > Rick Covic > > ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from OHPERRY-L, send mail to OHPERRY-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To unsubcribe from OHPERRY-D, do the same thing with OHPERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com.

Hi John, This is a stretch but, there was a Jane Cochran shown on the 1830 census in Jackson Co., Jackson Township. She was head of household. There is a female listed (the oldest) between 15 and 20 years of age. Probably her oldest daughter. As I'm sure you know, the oldest daughter was usually named after the Mother in the good ole days. Two houses away was a William Cochran. Sherole RLCovic@aol.com wrote: > Sherole, > Could you lookup this marriage and tell me who the parents are. > John Hull m. Jane Cochran on March 13, 1833 in Perry Co, Ohio. They are my > GGGGrandparents. > > Thankyou, > > Rick Covic > > ==== OHPERRY Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from OHPERRY-L, send mail to OHPERRY-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To unsubcribe from OHPERRY-D, do the same thing with OHPERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com.