This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/QZB.2ACI/6162.2 Message Board Post: I took a brief look through the censes, and the James P. Duff who married Etta was born more like in 1830. They ended up in Oklahoma. Their son was James E. Duff and he was born in 1857, not 1867. Etta was his mother, not his wife. You will not find birth records for either in Muskingum, because of the dates. Church records, maybe.