This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sfwit Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.muskingum/1473.2.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Kathy, A couple of days ago I sent you an email including the following: Thanks very much for your offer of a copy of the Jefferson Township map. I would be most interested in it. We are planning a Kipp family reunion next year and I would like to include the map. The two Kipps should be Henry and William. They were both born in Ladbergen and came through the port of Baltimore with their parents 15 September 1845. I was given a short history of Ladbergen in English. It discusses the reasons that one third of the Ladbergen citizens immigrated betweel 1830 and 1870. It also includes that Neil Armstrong's great grandfather came from Ladbergen and was named Kotter. I can send you a copy if you are interested. I will probably return to Ladbergen sometime and stay a couple of days. As I mentioned the Mollers Cafe owner suggested I should talk to a Untiedt that knows the history of the Ladbergen families. Also there should be records at the town office. These should allow me to check out the information you posted. I took a picture of a pretty old Wilhelm Untiedt gravestone marker in the church yard. When I download the photos I try and determine the dates. I can also send you a print of this and the church. Thanks again, Steve Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.