Dear List: I have a 3 year brick wall - one that exists for other researchers of the same FRAZIERS. There were many FRAZIERS in Muskingum Co., but I can't find mine in censuses or other records. Jacob FRAZIER married Julia RIEMS, but I don't know where or when other than it was before1855. I think it's possible that Jacob used another given name and maybe Julia did as well. Maybe they both used the name not know by their grandchildren. It's not known by me either. I do have the following information about his son, William Oscar FRAZIER, from his WV Archives death record, censuses and the VA Archives record of William's wife, Belle FRAZIER: WILLIAM OSCAR FRAZIER: parents: Jacob (b. PA or IL) & Julia (Riems) (b. PA or IL) Frazier born: 11/23/1855 OH (either Zanesville or Cincinnati) note: birth records in Muskingum Co. didn’t start until 1867 died: 5/28/1929 Wheeling, Ohio Co., WV - at home, 104 S. York St., Wheeling funeral: Cooey-Bentz, Wheeling burial: Mt. Wood Cem., Wheeling occ: Hardware Salesman spouse: Isabelle “Belle” Williamson FLORENCE marriage: about 1876, probably Wheeling or Mt. Pleasant, WV spouse born: 3/3/1858 Mt. Pleasant or Wheeling, WV spouse died: 11/3/1954 Richland Dist., Wheeling, WV, age 87 spouse funeral: Fields spouse buried: Mt. Wood Cem., Wheeling last res: 104 S. York St., Wheeling, WV spouse’s parents: Samuel J. and Margaret (Ryal) Florence spouse’s mother born: New Castle, PA spouse’s father born: Richmond, VA Twelve children of William Oscar & Isabelle “Belle” Williamson (FLORENCE) FRAZIER: (3 did not make it to the 1880-1900 census & I don't have their names) Charles Henry; Harry Garfield; Samuel James; Blanche H.; Walter C.; Earl R.; Estella “Stella” May; Julia A.; Jacob G. I think Jacob & Julia (RIEMS) FRAZIER also had a daughter, Alice, who was born in Muskingum Co., OH That's all I have. Sure could use some guidance on Jacob. Best Wishes to All, Donna Mollaun Muskingum Co. surnames: CRISWELL & FRAZIER ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.