This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: karmtayl Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.muskingum/6427.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nothing to offer on Kronenbitter (sorry), but I have some info on Grether. George Frederick Grether and 5 members of his family are bur St. Paul Lutheran Cem. Muskingum: Grether, George F. b. 26 Mar, 1818, d. 6 Feb 1893 Grether, Sophia, d. Sept 27, 1862 (29-6-22) wife Infant child Grether, Louisa S., d. 13 Sept, 1864 (4: 1-4-15) Grether, Maria C. , d. 16 Sept 1864 (?17/12? -2-27) Grether, Magdalene d Sept 13, 1864 (1-7-10) Since the 3 children died within 3 days of each other, it's likely that they fell victim to some sort of epidemic (typhoid? scarlet fever?). George Frederick Grether m. Sophia Herman on 11 Sep 1845 in Muskingum Co. The Grether stones in St. Paul are in close proximity to the stones of Nicolas Herman (d. 28 May 1867 aged 82y 3m 22d) and his wife Anna Margaretha Herman (d. 29 Dec1862, aged 73y 10m 5d). I suspect Nicolas and Anna Margaretha were the parents of Sophia Herman Grether, though I cannot prove that yet.. I believe the 1850 Salem Twp. Muskingum census shows Nicolas and "Margaret" living in the household of Geo. Frederick Grether, though all the names are somewhat mangled: Frederick Grates 31 b. ca. 1819 GER Sophia Gratton 25 b. ca. 1825 FRA Mary C. Gratton 4 b. ca. 1846 OH Sophia F.Gratton 2 b. ca. 1848 OH Elizabeth M. Gratton 1 b. ca. 1849 OH Nicholas Harman 66 b. ca. 1784 GER Farmer Margaret Harman 65 b. ca. 1785 GER Nicholas and Margaret's plots in St. Paul also adjoin those of the Erman family: Francis and Mary Erman, their dau Frances (who m. Philip Bastian) and the first wife of their son John, whose name was Catherine Hearman/Herman. I believe Catherine is another dau of N. and M. Herman. They likely had a third dau, Charlotte Herman, who m. Frederick Young b. 1818 GER on 3 Jan 1843 in Muskingum Co. Young was a miller; he later moved to Morgan Co., George Frederick Grether is also described in the 1860 Perry Twp. census as a "farmer and miller", born in Baden GER. The 1860 Perry Twp. listing for Geo. Frederick Grether is a mess. Grether and wife are listed as "Greater", Nicolas and Margaret Herman who are lodging with them are listed as "Hennan", and F. and S. Grether's children all have the wrong last name ("Hennan"). There is also a Rebecca Hennan age 35 in the household with 4 young children. I do not know who she is...unless the Hermans also had a son who died. Below the complete household as listed in the census: George F. Greater 42 b. <1818> Farmer & Miller Baden GER Sophia Greater 33 b. <1827> FRA Nicholas Hennan 75 b. <1785> FRA Margaret Hennan 74 b. <1786> FRA Mary Hennan* 14 b. <1846> OH Sophia Hennan* 12 b. <1848> OH wife of Thomas Taylor Elizabeth Hennan* 11 b. <1849> OH Charlotte Hennan* 9 b. <1851> OH on LDS George Hennan* 7 b. <1853> OH Rebecca Hennan 35 b. <1825> OH Is this a different family? Catharine Hennan 7 b. <1853> OH Becky A. Hennan 5 b. <1855> OH John Hennan 9 b. < 1851> OH George Hennan 1 b. <1859> OH * should be Grether, not "Hennan" (Herman) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.