You are mistaken about the copyright issue... In most cases the companies DO NOT abridge the rights of the original info compilers. Read the notices on their webpages... they are generally fair. THis discussion went on on another list, Macoupin-L, from Illinois... A gentleman from Ancestry explained their position very carefully and I agree with it. I too have worked hard to compile this information, but I give it freely to the world. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra Ferguson [mailto:ferg@wvinter.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 6:52 PM > To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright > > > Whether we agree or not is not really the question. I, too, dislike the > FTM, etc, and will not submit my information to them. But, what about the > little guy in Anywhere, Ohio, that puts together, by the sweat of > his brow , > a book on "whatever".....and we, give out pages and pages of his > hard earned > information. My point is, as long as we abide by the letter of the law, > we can give each other help without giving "the big boys" fuel" for the > copyright furnace. And really, I get sort of tired of people asking for > everyone named Smith or Jones, listed on a CD or in a book. I > simply write > back that if they will send me some given names I'll be glad to look them > up...that is within the law and more than fair, I think. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Jeffers <sgtfury@hotmail.com> > To: ferg@wvinter.net <ferg@wvinter.net> > Cc: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright > > > >This is a personal pet peeve of mine and I'm prepared for the flames > >that'll come back on this one. But consider for a moment one bit of > >really basic logic in this fiasco: > > > >The same organizations (FTM, et al....) that want these copyright > >laws enforced, are the same organizations that have been begging for > >your hard work and research, often referring to as " your > >contribution." They take your "contribution" and copyright it. Then > >they manufacture the CDs, publish the books and sell it. > > > >Is it me or does this seem wrong? I guess that little dialog box > >that pops up and says "Thanks for your contribution" is payment > >enough... > > > >In reality, the companies demand enforcement of the copyright law > >means so that no one will do look-ups, the exchange of information on > >the Internet dries up (including non-copyrighted info for fear of > >harassment and backlash), and people will have to buy the CDs and > >books to get any information at all. > > > >I'm not even going to go into the veracity of the information > >contained on the CDs and in the Books. > > > >Marketing Terrorism today is considered a Good Market Strategy. > > > > > >Just so I'm not accused of being off topic, I've written an article > >on the Hines/Jeffers/McMahon/Norris family. The Hines family > >includes the immigrant Baltzar Hines. Per the 1880 Census, Baltzar > >Hines was a Blacksmith from Woodsfield, Monroe Co., Ohio. > > > >If anyone would like an article on the rather complex family > >relationship that ensued, please let me know and I will forward it in > >a format suitable to your desire (Word, Text, WP, etc...) > > > >Regards, > >R. Jeffers > >A one-time "contributor" to FTM... > >My mistake and I do apologize. > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@wvinter.net> > >To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright > >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:38:27 -0400 > > > >>T he "previous message" referred to below was a comment on > >copyright > >laws, and said that it is legal to give another person a lookup of > >one or 2 > >names, from a copyrighted book that you own, but what is called a > >"blanket > >lookup", (all information on a certain name, or large passages from a > >specific book) is an infringement of this law. With genealogy now > >online, > >this is new ground and we all need to be responsible, and not ruin > >the > >really good thing we have going for us. Several lists I belong to > >now no > >longer will allow lookups done from any book/CD unless the owner has > >written > >permission from > >>the author. Let me tell you, this kind of policy reduces the > >lookups to > >>about zip! This is really going to hurt us all, so I suggest that > >we try > >to stay within the limits of the law. > >> > >> > >>This, from another list manager: > >> > >> > >>>Hi, > >>>To the best of my knowledge, the previous message on copyright > >>>infringement was correct. A request to look-up all of the SMITH's is > >>>incorrect. We should all try to be a little more specific. > >>>The April issue of the IIGS Newsletter is now online at > >>> > >>>http://www.iigs.org/newsletter/9904news/index.htm.en > >>> > >>>This month, in a coordinated effort with the US Internet > >Genealogical > >>>Society (USIGS) and the Brown Family Genealogicial Society, IIGS > >>>Newsletter focuses on issues such as copyright infringement and > >>>plagiarism and the need to develop standards and guidelines for > >>>responsible online genealogy. > >>> > >. > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >