Hi Ron, I agree with you. I will continue to do group lookups until the list owners ask me to stop. Also, I am totally unable to go through all of the materials I have and retype all the information for each person individually. I usually have 80+ messages sitting in my email box waiting for replies and I have the original list down to 38 messages to answer, from the 115 I started with. If I get repeats, I just ask someone to forward the information to the new person making the request. Sincerely, J.L. http://www.y2kfoods.homepad.com -----Original Message----- From: Ron Jeffers <sgtfury@hotmail.com> To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright >This is a personal pet peeve of mine and I'm prepared for the flames >that'll come back on this one. But consider for a moment one bit of >really basic logic in this fiasco: > >The same organizations (FTM, et al....) that want these copyright >laws enforced, are the same organizations that have been begging for >your hard work and research, often referring to as " your >contribution." They take your "contribution" and copyright it. Then >they manufacture the CDs, publish the books and sell it. > >Is it me or does this seem wrong? I guess that little dialog box >that pops up and says "Thanks for your contribution" is payment >enough... > >In reality, the companies demand enforcement of the copyright law >means so that no one will do look-ups, the exchange of information on >the Internet dries up (including non-copyrighted info for fear of >harassment and backlash), and people will have to buy the CDs and >books to get any information at all. > >I'm not even going to go into the veracity of the information >contained on the CDs and in the Books. > >Marketing Terrorism today is considered a Good Market Strategy. > > >Just so I'm not accused of being off topic, I've written an article >on the Hines/Jeffers/McMahon/Norris family. The Hines family >includes the immigrant Baltzar Hines. Per the 1880 Census, Baltzar >Hines was a Blacksmith from Woodsfield, Monroe Co., Ohio. > >If anyone would like an article on the rather complex family >relationship that ensued, please let me know and I will forward it in >a format suitable to your desire (Word, Text, WP, etc...) > >Regards, >R. Jeffers >A one-time "contributor" to FTM... >My mistake and I do apologize. > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@wvinter.net> >To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:38:27 -0400 > >>T he "previous message" referred to below was a comment on >copyright >laws, and said that it is legal to give another person a lookup of >one or 2 >names, from a copyrighted book that you own, but what is called a >"blanket >lookup", (all information on a certain name, or large passages from a >specific book) is an infringement of this law. With genealogy now >online, >this is new ground and we all need to be responsible, and not ruin >the >really good thing we have going for us. Several lists I belong to >now no >longer will allow lookups done from any book/CD unless the owner has >written >permission from >>the author. Let me tell you, this kind of policy reduces the >lookups to >>about zip! This is really going to hurt us all, so I suggest that >we try >to stay within the limits of the law. >> >> >>This, from another list manager: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>To the best of my knowledge, the previous message on copyright >>>infringement was correct. A request to look-up all of the SMITH's is >>>incorrect. We should all try to be a little more specific. >>>The April issue of the IIGS Newsletter is now online at >>> >>>http://www.iigs.org/newsletter/9904news/index.htm.en >>> >>>This month, in a coordinated effort with the US Internet >Genealogical >>>Society (USIGS) and the Brown Family Genealogicial Society, IIGS >>>Newsletter focuses on issues such as copyright infringement and >>>plagiarism and the need to develop standards and guidelines for >>>responsible online genealogy. >>> >. >> > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >