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    1. [OHMONROE-L] Daley/Dailey/Daily Surname
    2. J. L.
    3. >From the book: Tombstone Inscriptions & Family Records of Belmont Co., Oh by Esther Weygandt Powell Vallonia Area Cemetery Mead Twp Daily, John dod 1846 age 74 stone broken off possibly wife Eleanor Jacob dod 1846 age ?? son of John & Eleanor ?? 1812-1832 son of John & ?? Daily, Ann dod 1847 age 38 Dover Cemetery Old & New York Twp Daily, Anna 1854-1922 Richland Twp Settlers 1809 Daily, John St. Clairsville Union Cemetery Interments Daily? , Matt 10/28/1903 Bend Fork Cemetery Washington Twp Dailey, Martha dod 1854 age 22 w/o Zachariah & dau of F & F. Stonebraker ************************************************************* Monroe Co., Oh In the process of moving my office to another room, I have misplaced the book of Perry Twp Gleanings & Cemetery Inscriptions. I will post from it just as soon as I locate it again. Monroe Co., Oh The 1st 20 yrs Commissioners' Journal 1815-1835 June 8, 1815 Commissioners have appointed Isaac Atkison, John DAYLY and William Dement (by the request of Elisha Steephen), viewers to view the ground for a road in Seneca Twp beginning at line between Dement and Jacob Baker, thence along the north side of the old road intersect the old road below Prior's. August 9, 1817 An order granted to turn the road north of Dement's field. Isaac Atkinson, John DAILY, and Robert Carpenter is appointed viewers to view the eight day of November. March 10, 1819 Application to turn the road beginning about thirty five rods eastward of the house, thence as far as the bridge between Isaac Atkinson's and John DAILY's. Elijah Steen, Jacob Baker & John DAILY appointed viewers. Settled with judges> Levin Oakey, John Jones, Isaac Atkinson June 3, 1823 To a fine assessed by Court against Peter DAILY for fighting $1.00 June 8, 1825 John Carmicle then presented a petition for a new road beginning at Philip Allen's Saw Mill in the Highway Road on the Clear Fork of Muskingum, thence up said fork to Jacob Miller's and thence up said fork to Robert Martin's, and then up said fork to Thomas Forshey's, and thence up said fork to Elisebeth Hines, and thence up said fork to John Carmicle's, thence up said fork to Frederick Crow's and thence the nearest and best way to Lemuel Rucker's Senr., and thence the nearest and best way to intersect the road between Isaac Atkinson's and John DAILY's , which petition was considered and a view granted and views appointed to meet on the 3es QwsnwasY IN sWXWMVWE 1825 at Philip Allen's, towit, Thomas Floyd, David Sutten and Isaac Gray. And Elijah Andrews was appointed surveyor for the same. Bond. August 4, 1826 Orders issued to trustees [of] Perry, Franklin, Seneca, Wayne, and Elk to open the new road from Allen's saw mill to intersect the Barnesville Road near John DAILY's and Isaac Atkinson's June 2nd 1828 Session. Commissioners met on the 2nd day of June 1828 to wit John Henthorn, Wm. Crawford and John Linn and proceeded to business. A petition was presented by William Kent for a road leading from Marietta to Barnesville, commencing for said alteration by or at the BIG NOT (KNOT?) on the ridge between John DAILY's and William Kent's Mill, thence southward down a run to said Kent's, thence near the same route to intersect the aforesiad road south of Fort's Fork of Wills Creek. Bond given. Joshua Craig, John Bevin and Sylvanus Balding appointed viewers and Daniel Gray, Surveyor, to meet at Wm Kent's house of the 23rd of June inst. 12 Sept 1828 The reportsof following roads were publicly read and ordered to be laid over to be read tomorrow to wit, a road beginning at or near the Ohio River, thence the nearest and best route to intersect Brown's Road near the head of the Big Run. Also a road leading from Marietta to Barnesville, said alteration to begin at the Big Not on the ridge between John DAILY's and William Kent's, thence south down a run, thence on the same route to Fort's Fork of Wills Creek. Also the remainder of the reports read which was presented to the Commissioners on the 2nd day of June 1828 Monroe Co., Oh Will Abstracts Book 1 & 2 Book 1 & 2 No listings Obituaries of Monroe Co., Oh John Marshall Schoonover, son of T.B. & M.E. Schoonover, was born March 29, 1897, and departed this life October 7, 1918, aged 21 years, six months and 8 days. He united with the Mt. Olive U.B. Church about two years ago and took an active part in the church services. He was called to defend his flag and country in the cause of right and liberty September 4, 1918 and entered the service at Camp Sherman, Ohio. He had always been a faithful son and brother. he leaves to mourn his loss a father, mother, six brothers and a host of relatives and friends. Funeral services were conducted by Rev. C. E. DAILY at the home and in the churchyard at Mt. Moriah after which the body was laid to rest in the Mt. Moriahy Cemetery. More to follow

    04/24/1999 08:31:56
    1. [OHMONROE-L] VARNER Family
    2. Ellen Bisson
    3. Have been working on a group who lived in the county, probably Wayne Twp: Isaac Daniel Varner b Monroe Co. 8 Mar 1834; m Ruth Amelia Baker b Wayne Twp, 4 Oct 1833; my gggrandparents. Their ch: 1. Lucille Eva Varner, b Monroe Co., 14 Sept 1856; my ggrandmother, she m John Curtis Blevins in Butler Co., KS 2. Mary Elizabeth Varner, b Monroe Co., 1858; m Andrew Winkler 3. Isadora Arbella Varner, b Monroe Co., 30 Oct 1859; m John Milton Snorf 4-10 born Linn County, IA If any of these names are familiar to you, I would enjoy sharing information with you. Regards, Ellen Knowles Bisson

    04/23/1999 02:03:47
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Varner
    2. For your information, there is a Varner cem located in section 4 of Somerset twp. There are about 15 stones there. Bruce Nelson

    04/23/1999 01:55:37
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Indexing obits for GEN-OBIT
    2. Bonnie Burkhardt
    3. I wish you all would consider indexing the obituaries in your daily (semi-weekly, weekly) newspaper for inclusion in GEN-OBIT. The web site is at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary> There is a publications list that you can check to see if your newspaper is up for adoption. -- Bonnie Burkhardt <burkhard@flash.net> <bburkhardt@juno.com> Researching: Allender/Arbo/Archibald/Bergman/Burdick/Burkhardt/Debruler/ Deline/Holden/Hathorn/Hyett/Keyser/Lashley/Long/Pervorse/ Porter/Rice/Sternbacher/Stone

    04/19/1999 01:59:52
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Henthorn Family
    2. Kevin V. Davis
    3. Looking for information on Abraham Henthorn and Nancy Clark of Monroe County, Ohio. This couple had a daughter, Margaret Ann and she married Samuel Davis. I'm trying to fill in some missing information on where the Henthorns and Davis' are buried, Margaret's brothers and sisters names. Any help will be appriciated. Kevin Davis kvdavis@ibm.net

    04/18/1999 11:05:04
    1. [OHMONROE-L] JUST A REMINDER
    2. Karen S. Smith
    3. The Ohio Genealogical Society Library in Mansfield, OH will be closed April 23 & 24 due to the Annual Conference which will be held at the Toledo Hilton & Dana Center, Toledo, OH. Karen S. Smith, 3rd Vice President The Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org

    04/18/1999 07:18:56
    1. [OHMONROE-L] White Surname Post #2
    2. J. L.
    3. PARTICIPATE IN THE GREAT AMERICAN "GAS OUT" BUY NO GASOLINE ON APRIL 30, 1999 I am not sure which Newspaper abstracts I left off on this one, but I will do Vol #3. If anyone has the last post and would send it to me, I will make sure to include anything I may have missed. Monroe Co., Oh Newspaper Abstracts Vol 3 TSD=The Spirit of Democracy TSD 7 Apr 1868 Leonard Twinum appointed Ex 22 Feb 1868 of estate of Jane White decd TSD 17 Nov 1868 Married 15th ult by G.J. Liewellen Esq, George S. White & Eliza Scott TSD 23 Mar 1869 Thomas Morrow guardian of Jospeh White, Jr. final TSD 1 Jun 1869 John Morris vs Wm White etal $943.65 TSD 16 Nov 1869 Settlement accounts for hearing 25 Nov 1869: Thomas Morrow guardian of Joseph White, Sr, final TSD 11 Oct 1870 Married 6th inst by A. Twoinem Esq, Jacob Miller & Margaret J. White TSD 7 Feb 1871 Leonard Twinem Ex of Jane White partial TSD 7 Mar 1871 Admr Sale 8 Apr 1871, Sydnor Whitacre admr of estate of E. Christy decd, S part E 1/2 NE1/4 S14T4R6, 40acres, subject to mortgage in favor of Wm. White. TSD 7 Nov 1871 Married 19 Oct by Andrew Twinem Esq, Joseph C. White & Elizabeth Snell all of county Ancestor Charts Vol 1 & 2 SB=Submitted By Vol 1 SB Mrs. Mildred Blubaugh 1479 Pershing Ct Wichita, KS 67218 Susan Catherine White b 21 Feb 1817 Muskingum Co., Oh d 4 Apr 1894, K m 26 Jun 1889 to George W. Long Parents of Susan: Stephen White b 1786 d 1849 Ind; m 1810 to Orpha Howe b 1791 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SB Mark Brunner 14011 Brookpark Rd #200 Brookpark,Oh 44142 Sarah White b 16 May 1824 d 26 Mar 1896 m 24 Dec 1846 to John Wood Mason Parents of Sarah James White b ?? d?? m?? to ?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~ SB Norma Dawkins Singleton 2029 Canton Rd Akron, Oh 44312 Elizabeth White b 1807 Ky d?? m 4 Mar 1828 Ky to Ephraim Lockwood ~~~~~ SB Mr Walter H. Williams 5848 Knollwood Rd Rockford, Il 61107 Margared White b ?? d?? b Fogle Cemetery Novle Co, Oh m 1793 to Jacob Fogle Ancestor Charts Vol 2 SB Bradley Carroll 52494 Cats Run Rd Powhatan Point, Oh Eliza L. White b 25 Feb 1875 d 3 Apr 1965, Martins Ferry, O m 17 Jul 1892 to Leon J. Carroll Parents of Eliza: Louis H. White b 21 Jun 1837 d 26 Jun 1917 m ?? to Mary Yandow ~~~~~~~~~~~ SB Betty Goudy Cronin 5060 76th Ave N. #212 Pinellas Park, Fl 33781 Mary White b ca 1803 d?? m ca 1875 to John Henthorn, Sr Parents of Mary: Andrew White b ca 1760 d ca 1821 m ?? ~~~~~~~~~~~ SB Deborah Schneider 8390 Luther Rd Girard, Pa 16417 Fannie White b 13 Apr 1796 d 15 Sept 1845 m 9 Nov 1818 to John Ellsworth Good luck with your research. Sincerely, J.L. http://www.y2kfood.homepad.com PARTICIPATE IN THE GREAT AMERICAN "GAS OUT" BUY NO GASOLINE ON APRIL 30, 1999

    04/17/1999 07:37:46
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Monroe Co. Records
    2. Jconn
    3. This is a general reply to Patticake as to where she might find info regarding Salome Bott. When I am searching a surname in Monroe County I ususally begin by searching the 12 volumes of Monroe Co Genealogical Records and then I procede to the four volumes of Monroe County Newspaper Abstracts compiled by Rita Kopp. The Abstracts are for the Spirit of Democracy for various years. I have found valuable info as to marriages pre 1868 as well as notices of what states people moved to. If your ancestor was involved in some type of legal action it was usually printed in the newspaper. If it is in the abstracts it is then easy to go to the microfilm of the newspaper to read about it and many times also to records in the Common Pleas and Probate Courts in Woodsfield to read the actual record. Abstracts are available for purchase from the Monroe Co. Genealogical Society and there is a printable order form available at the Monroe US Genweb site. My last comment is once we hear that the Monroe courthouse burned we sometimes think no old records are available. However, the Court of Common Pleas records did not burn and with patience and a few leads before you go the records of Common Pleas contain a huge amount of info This is my first posting to the list and it is a bit too long, but I would be glad to share some tips about how I have found info in Monroe Co. if someone has questions. I have a large number of surnames there--along the riverfront and in the Center Twp. area. Janet .

    04/17/1999 08:42:21
    1. [OHMONROE-L] BOTT/JUNG
    2. patticake
    3. Hi, Still looking for our BOTTS, and finding roadblocks all the way. Came across a marriage record in "Monroe Co. Genealogical Records, Vol. 9" in our local library. It said "Married on the 30th of March, 1862 by Rev. Frederick Wucherer, Mr. Jacob BOTT and Miss Salome JUNG all of this county." Have checked David Distler's site and although there are several JUNGS, there was no Salome listed. I have a feeling this may be our gr gr grandfather Jacob BOTT, born 1839, as his son Jacob was born in 1865, and 1870 census shows Jacob Sr. married to Elizabeth , who was Jacob's stepmother, which we've been able to prove as he married Elizabeth POHLMAN/BOEHLMANN on Sep. 2, 1866. Could this Salome JUNG have been Jacob Jr.'s mother and possibly died giving birth or shortly thereafter? Does anyone have information as to when Salome JUNG-BOTT may have died and is buried? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Pat Owens

    04/16/1999 11:24:50
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Tombstone Inscriptions & Family Records of Belmont Co., Oh
    2. J. L.
    3. To all who are interested in checking if this book is still available: Book: Tombstone Inscriptions & Family Records of Belmont Co., Oh by Esther Weygandt Powell printed by Closson Press 1935 Sampson Dr Apollo, Pa Sincerely, J.L. http://www.y2kfoods.homepad.com

    04/16/1999 12:35:44
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Re: [OHBELMON-L] Reunions in Belmont County
    2. J. L.
    3. Hello to all, Jim's suggestion for a reunion place is a good one; another good place for a reunion is just across the Ohio River into W. Va and that would be at Olgeby Park. I graduated from Bellaire High School, Belmont Co and our Senior Class Picnic, and many other events were held at Olgeby Park. Sincerely, J.L. http://www.y2kfoods.homepad.com -----Original Message----- From: J. Wiley <jrwiley@raex.com> To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com <OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 6:52 PM Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Reunions in Belmont County >Folks have already mentioned several motels in the St. >Clairsville area, and I will add only that we've stayed at two or >three of them, and find them suitable to very good. Lots of >restaurants there, too, including Undo's (very good Italian food) >which accomodated quite a few of us for a get-together, and has >"branches" across the river in West VA, where some 60 of us will >meet in May. The AAA guide or Belmont County's site (forget the >URL just now) will give you details. There is a 1-800 number to >call for more info. If I had it, I'd give it here. Someone here >must know it. > >Also, we held our first family reunion of several branches of our >families (Wiley, Hardesty, Warren, McHenry et al) at St. >Clairsville's Memorial Park there last summer. It's a very nice >park, with a great pavillion which rents for $100 for a day. Has >h&c water, electricity, flush toilets, all the amenities you'd >want for a summer reunion. > >Also, I will echo the sentiments of others about the helpfulness >of folks at the courthouse, libraries, and so on. How could it be >otherwise? These are our neighbors, right? <smile> Have a great >time! > >jim wiley > >

    04/15/1999 11:32:13
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Denham surname
    2. J. L.
    3. Hello Autumn, In the book Tombstone Inscriptions and Family Records of Belmont Co., Oh by Esther Weygandt Powell, here is what I have found on the Denham surname: Colerain Twp Pioneer Families William L. Denham b here 1815, son of William, Sr here early. Wm, Jr m here 1839 to Mary Ann FIRNEY. Had 4 ch. St. Clairsville Union Cemetery Pultney Twp by the Compiler: This cemetery is on St. Rt 9, near U.S. Rt old 40. It is a huge cemetery and some sections are very old. It is very well cared for and old stones are carefully repaired. I was there a week in June 1960 and the caretaker at that time took great pride in its care. Some of the more recent inscriptions were not copied. At one time a log Presbyterian Church stood in about the center of the cemetery, built in 1797. A Quaker cemetery is close by and very old. Denham, John 1802-1883 wife Elizabeth 1813-1893 FATHER & MOTHER Jane 1831-1896 Denham, William Lee 1815-1891 Mary 1817-1889 Denham William dod 1853 age 91 wife Rebecca dod 1853 age ?? Denham, John 1844-1921 wife Rebecca 1845-1922 Richland Twp Pioneers William Denham, native of Ire, here 1789. He went first to S.C. and m Rebecca SARGENT, then to this county. Had son John b here 10/22/1802. John became a Captain in Ohio Militia. He m in 1830 to Elizabeth GIFFEN, b in W. Va. 4/2/1813, dau of John & Elizabeth (MORRISON) Giffin. John Giffen b in Scotland in 1774; to WS with parents when 2 yrs of age. They were in Ft. Henry at time of seige. Elizabeth MORRISON, dau of Wm & Mary (HENRY) Morrison. John Denham and wife had: Sophia, Wm, Elizabeth (w/o Samuel WILEY); Emily (w/o Jos. HALL); May; Mary; Sarah (w/o Wm HALL); Jos & Maria. Son Joseph m 1873 to Louisa AULT, b 1854, dau of Jos & Ann (WILKINSON). Have fun on your trip. I miss Belmont Co. Sincerley, J.L. http://www.y2kfoods.homepad.com -----Original Message----- From: Autumnight@aol.com <Autumnight@aol.com> To: OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com <OHBELMON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:56 AM Subject: [OHBELMON-L] Research >I plan to be in Ohio for a week in June, my hopes are to get at least a day >in at Belmont Co., I would like to take pictures of my DENHAM lines >headstones if they exist and possibly locate any records of Charles Andison >DENHAMs death, he died in 9-6-1915 in Belmont Co., I have no idea what >cemetery he is buried in. I also am trying to determine if his wife Lena >stayed in the area or moved on after his death. If anyone might have access >to his obit it would be most helpful, I have not yet received his death >certificate. Any suggestions would be appreciated as my time will be limited. >One other question and I will go in peace, if anyone has marriage index for >Ohio 1915+ I would be curious to know if there is a Philena DENHAM that >married after his death. I am hoping to get a day in Ashtabula Co., and >Lorain Co., so I have to organize my time well. > >Thanks >Autumn >

    04/14/1999 07:39:13
    1. [OHMONROE-L] Re: Scatterday Cemetery, Belmont County
    2. J. L.
    3. Hello, I have a book titled: Tombstone Inscriptions & Family Records of Belmont Co., OH by Esther Weygandt Powell. I do not find a listing for a Scatterday Cemetery in this particular book. The information on Calvert surname from this book is as follows: Hendrysburg Cemetery Kirkwood Twp Calvert, John 1861-1959 wife Mary 1860-1934 Jacobsburg Cemetery Smith Twp Calvert, John W dod 1844? age 43 Senior warden of Moriah Lodge Centerville Area Cemetery Smith Twp Calvert, John dod 1847 age 81 wife Easter dod 1849 age 82 Miscellaneous Twp Pioneers Mitchell Atkinson b on Captina Creek, 11/19/1804, son of Isaac & Margaret (HOLMES); m near Fairview, O to Nancy GREENELTCH, dau of James & Phebe (MOORE) early settlers of Belmont Co., They had Margaret (YOCKEY) b 1842; Isaac; Lydia (KRONIN?); Phebe (CALVERT); Lucius; Hamar; & Milton. His uncle Mitchell in War of 1812 and his uncle Jame in Indian Wars His wife Nancy b 3/14/1810 in Colerain Twp. They resided Calais, Monroe Co., Oh -----Original Message----- From: James Calvert <jcalvert@jps.net> To: Maggie_Ohio-L@rootsweb.com <Maggie_Ohio-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 8:51 PM Subject: Scatterday Cemetery, Belmont County >Does anyone have a listing of the graves in Scatterday Cemetery? I am >trying to locate the grave of Jacob Calvert who died in 1853, probably in >Marshall County, West Virginia. However, he is supposedly buried in >Scatterday Cemetery. If anyone has surveyed the headstone inscriptions, >please let me know. Also, what other Calverts are buried in this cemetery. > >Thanks for any and all help. > >Jim > > >==== Maggie_Ohio Mailing List ==== >To help the Newbie's: when you reply to a message (when you include the original message) please write the original message first and your reply second. >(For Genealogy Only Subscribe to OHROOTS-L list.) >To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Maggie_Ohio for the list name. >

    04/11/1999 02:11:21
    1. [OHMONROE-L] QExpress for Monroe Co., Ohio ( MARTIN POOLE MOORE )
    2. Joyce Palmer
    3. Surnames: MARTIN POOLE MOORE Submitter: Joyce Palmer (dajovu@aol.com) Date: 11 Apr 1999 I am interested in any information concerning the surnames of MARTIN, POOLE, and MOORE in Monroe and Washington Counties

    04/11/1999 10:04:29
    1. Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright
    2. J. L.
    3. Hi Ron, I agree with you. I will continue to do group lookups until the list owners ask me to stop. Also, I am totally unable to go through all of the materials I have and retype all the information for each person individually. I usually have 80+ messages sitting in my email box waiting for replies and I have the original list down to 38 messages to answer, from the 115 I started with. If I get repeats, I just ask someone to forward the information to the new person making the request. Sincerely, J.L. http://www.y2kfoods.homepad.com -----Original Message----- From: Ron Jeffers <sgtfury@hotmail.com> To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright >This is a personal pet peeve of mine and I'm prepared for the flames >that'll come back on this one. But consider for a moment one bit of >really basic logic in this fiasco: > >The same organizations (FTM, et al....) that want these copyright >laws enforced, are the same organizations that have been begging for >your hard work and research, often referring to as " your >contribution." They take your "contribution" and copyright it. Then >they manufacture the CDs, publish the books and sell it. > >Is it me or does this seem wrong? I guess that little dialog box >that pops up and says "Thanks for your contribution" is payment >enough... > >In reality, the companies demand enforcement of the copyright law >means so that no one will do look-ups, the exchange of information on >the Internet dries up (including non-copyrighted info for fear of >harassment and backlash), and people will have to buy the CDs and >books to get any information at all. > >I'm not even going to go into the veracity of the information >contained on the CDs and in the Books. > >Marketing Terrorism today is considered a Good Market Strategy. > > >Just so I'm not accused of being off topic, I've written an article >on the Hines/Jeffers/McMahon/Norris family. The Hines family >includes the immigrant Baltzar Hines. Per the 1880 Census, Baltzar >Hines was a Blacksmith from Woodsfield, Monroe Co., Ohio. > >If anyone would like an article on the rather complex family >relationship that ensued, please let me know and I will forward it in >a format suitable to your desire (Word, Text, WP, etc...) > >Regards, >R. Jeffers >A one-time "contributor" to FTM... >My mistake and I do apologize. > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@wvinter.net> >To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:38:27 -0400 > >>T he "previous message" referred to below was a comment on >copyright >laws, and said that it is legal to give another person a lookup of >one or 2 >names, from a copyrighted book that you own, but what is called a >"blanket >lookup", (all information on a certain name, or large passages from a >specific book) is an infringement of this law. With genealogy now >online, >this is new ground and we all need to be responsible, and not ruin >the >really good thing we have going for us. Several lists I belong to >now no >longer will allow lookups done from any book/CD unless the owner has >written >permission from >>the author. Let me tell you, this kind of policy reduces the >lookups to >>about zip! This is really going to hurt us all, so I suggest that >we try >to stay within the limits of the law. >> >> >>This, from another list manager: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>To the best of my knowledge, the previous message on copyright >>>infringement was correct. A request to look-up all of the SMITH's is >>>incorrect. We should all try to be a little more specific. >>>The April issue of the IIGS Newsletter is now online at >>> >>>http://www.iigs.org/newsletter/9904news/index.htm.en >>> >>>This month, in a coordinated effort with the US Internet >Genealogical >>>Society (USIGS) and the Brown Family Genealogicial Society, IIGS >>>Newsletter focuses on issues such as copyright infringement and >>>plagiarism and the need to develop standards and guidelines for >>>responsible online genealogy. >>> >. >> > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >

    04/10/1999 12:22:15
    1. [OHMONROE-L] A response to double postings
    2. J. L.
    3. Since you receive my posts twice, then you are probably on the Belmont Co., Oh list AND the Monroe Co., Oh list. I send to both lists in case there is someone out there needing the information and they are not registered on both lists. The person I answer gets three postings, because I try to also send directly to them in addition to both lists. Sincerely, J.L. http://www.y2kfoods.homepad.com -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Ferguson <ferg@wvinter.net> To: J. L. <fmlyfndr@email.msn.com> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 5:35 AM Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] White Surname Post #2 >are you aware that your postings are going out twice. I received each of >your white postings 2 times. >-----Original Message----- >From: J. L. <fmlyfndr@email.msn.com> >To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 1:07 AM >Subject: [OHMONROE-L] White Surname Post #2 > > >>Monroe Co., Oh >> >>Perry Twp Gleanings & Cemetery Inscriptions >>Antioch Cemetery >>Section 1 (the oldest) >>Row 6 N - S >>White, Mary Jane w/o William d 2 Sept 1852 age 25y5m21d >>William A. s/o W. & M.J. d 19 Sept 1852 age 1m11d >>Thomas s/o W. & Mary J. d 18 July 1851 age 4 mo >>James d 5 Jan A.D. 1845 age 64y3m10d >> >>Monroe Co. Oh: 1st 20yrs Commissioners' Journal 1815-1835 >>No listings >> >>Monroe Co., Oh Will Abstracts Book 1 & 2 >>Book 1 >>White, Jane of Adams Twp, Monroe Co., Oh >>Will Book 1 page 18 >>Signed: 11 Aug 1867; probated 22 Feb 1868 >>Witnessess: Moses Williams, William O. Sawyers >>Spouse: Unmarried >>Devisees: Joseph White, Jr., brother, farm on which I live, 80 acres >>Margaret White, sister, $200.00 >>Joseph White, Sr. & Elizabeth White: >>Other assets to remain in hands of my executor to support father, Joseph >>White, Sr., and Elizabeth White, my sister. >>Executor: Leonard Twinem >>Note: Codicil 15 Jan 1868: I, Jane White, request Thomas Morrow be >appointed >>guardian of Joseph White, Jr., till he becomes of age. >> >>Book 2 No listings >> >>Obituaries of Monroe Co., Oh >>Mrs. Caroline Bleuer White, 78, died Thursday morning at 7:45 o'clock at >the >>home of a niece, Mrs. C.W. Burkhead at Rayland, O. She was a native of >>Monroe Co., O and was born February 13, 1870, a daughter of Hanford & >>Magdaline MIller Frey. She was a member of the Apostolic church. >> >>Surviving are a sister, Mrs. Emma Markel of Rayland, and several nieces and >>nephews. >> >>The body was taken to the Wharton-Ellis funeral home at New Martinsville >and >>at 3 o'clock this afternoon was to be removed to the home of a niece, Mrs. >>Webb Goddard of New Martinsville (Limestone) >> >>Services will be conducted Saturday at 1:30 pm from the German Baptist >>church by the Rev. Noah Bauman of Rittman, O. Interment will be made in >the >>church cemetery. >> >>(Friday, February 13, 1948) >> >>Monroe Co., Oh Newspaper Abstracts Vol 1, 2, & 3 >>TSD=The Spirit of Democracy >> >>Vol 1 >>TSD 27 Jul 1899 >>White, Nicholaus of Switzer, 77y, d Fri, buried St. John's Cemetery 1 >>brother. >> >>more to follow >> >> >> >

    04/10/1999 12:02:49
    1. Re: [OHMONROE-L] big fan chart for geneology
    2. Mary E. Daily
    3. ANCESTRAL FAN CHART (10-GENERATION) Horizontal, 25x36.5" Paper. Item Number: C-25 $7.00 http://www.hearthstonebooks.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_main.html?catid=287 Mary Daily medaily@idir.net Ruth Rinehart wrote: > > Did anyone see the nice piece on geneology that Martha Stewart did in her > April 1999 issue of Martha Stewart Living? She highlighted some > beautiful, artistic family trees. > > In particular, I am interested in the big, symmetrical fan wall chart. > I've seen several different kinds of wall charts produced by geneology > software, and haven't been particularly happy with any of them. The fan > chart in the magazine is simple, and filled in by hand, on one large sheet > of paper. The one shown went back 10 generations. > > Does anyone know where one can purchase such a chart? Mail order would be > ideal. Thanks!

    04/09/1999 02:04:08
    1. RE: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright
    2. Don Castella
    3. You are mistaken about the copyright issue... In most cases the companies DO NOT abridge the rights of the original info compilers. Read the notices on their webpages... they are generally fair. THis discussion went on on another list, Macoupin-L, from Illinois... A gentleman from Ancestry explained their position very carefully and I agree with it. I too have worked hard to compile this information, but I give it freely to the world. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra Ferguson [mailto:ferg@wvinter.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 6:52 PM > To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright > > > Whether we agree or not is not really the question. I, too, dislike the > FTM, etc, and will not submit my information to them. But, what about the > little guy in Anywhere, Ohio, that puts together, by the sweat of > his brow , > a book on "whatever".....and we, give out pages and pages of his > hard earned > information. My point is, as long as we abide by the letter of the law, > we can give each other help without giving "the big boys" fuel" for the > copyright furnace. And really, I get sort of tired of people asking for > everyone named Smith or Jones, listed on a CD or in a book. I > simply write > back that if they will send me some given names I'll be glad to look them > up...that is within the law and more than fair, I think. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Jeffers <sgtfury@hotmail.com> > To: ferg@wvinter.net <ferg@wvinter.net> > Cc: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright > > > >This is a personal pet peeve of mine and I'm prepared for the flames > >that'll come back on this one. But consider for a moment one bit of > >really basic logic in this fiasco: > > > >The same organizations (FTM, et al....) that want these copyright > >laws enforced, are the same organizations that have been begging for > >your hard work and research, often referring to as " your > >contribution." They take your "contribution" and copyright it. Then > >they manufacture the CDs, publish the books and sell it. > > > >Is it me or does this seem wrong? I guess that little dialog box > >that pops up and says "Thanks for your contribution" is payment > >enough... > > > >In reality, the companies demand enforcement of the copyright law > >means so that no one will do look-ups, the exchange of information on > >the Internet dries up (including non-copyrighted info for fear of > >harassment and backlash), and people will have to buy the CDs and > >books to get any information at all. > > > >I'm not even going to go into the veracity of the information > >contained on the CDs and in the Books. > > > >Marketing Terrorism today is considered a Good Market Strategy. > > > > > >Just so I'm not accused of being off topic, I've written an article > >on the Hines/Jeffers/McMahon/Norris family. The Hines family > >includes the immigrant Baltzar Hines. Per the 1880 Census, Baltzar > >Hines was a Blacksmith from Woodsfield, Monroe Co., Ohio. > > > >If anyone would like an article on the rather complex family > >relationship that ensued, please let me know and I will forward it in > >a format suitable to your desire (Word, Text, WP, etc...) > > > >Regards, > >R. Jeffers > >A one-time "contributor" to FTM... > >My mistake and I do apologize. > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@wvinter.net> > >To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright > >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:38:27 -0400 > > > >>T he "previous message" referred to below was a comment on > >copyright > >laws, and said that it is legal to give another person a lookup of > >one or 2 > >names, from a copyrighted book that you own, but what is called a > >"blanket > >lookup", (all information on a certain name, or large passages from a > >specific book) is an infringement of this law. With genealogy now > >online, > >this is new ground and we all need to be responsible, and not ruin > >the > >really good thing we have going for us. Several lists I belong to > >now no > >longer will allow lookups done from any book/CD unless the owner has > >written > >permission from > >>the author. Let me tell you, this kind of policy reduces the > >lookups to > >>about zip! This is really going to hurt us all, so I suggest that > >we try > >to stay within the limits of the law. > >> > >> > >>This, from another list manager: > >> > >> > >>>Hi, > >>>To the best of my knowledge, the previous message on copyright > >>>infringement was correct. A request to look-up all of the SMITH's is > >>>incorrect. We should all try to be a little more specific. > >>>The April issue of the IIGS Newsletter is now online at > >>> > >>>http://www.iigs.org/newsletter/9904news/index.htm.en > >>> > >>>This month, in a coordinated effort with the US Internet > >Genealogical > >>>Society (USIGS) and the Brown Family Genealogicial Society, IIGS > >>>Newsletter focuses on issues such as copyright infringement and > >>>plagiarism and the need to develop standards and guidelines for > >>>responsible online genealogy. > >>> > >. > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >

    04/08/1999 09:43:12
    1. Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. Whether we agree or not is not really the question. I, too, dislike the FTM, etc, and will not submit my information to them. But, what about the little guy in Anywhere, Ohio, that puts together, by the sweat of his brow , a book on "whatever".....and we, give out pages and pages of his hard earned information. My point is, as long as we abide by the letter of the law, we can give each other help without giving "the big boys" fuel" for the copyright furnace. And really, I get sort of tired of people asking for everyone named Smith or Jones, listed on a CD or in a book. I simply write back that if they will send me some given names I'll be glad to look them up...that is within the law and more than fair, I think. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Jeffers <sgtfury@hotmail.com> To: ferg@wvinter.net <ferg@wvinter.net> Cc: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright >This is a personal pet peeve of mine and I'm prepared for the flames >that'll come back on this one. But consider for a moment one bit of >really basic logic in this fiasco: > >The same organizations (FTM, et al....) that want these copyright >laws enforced, are the same organizations that have been begging for >your hard work and research, often referring to as " your >contribution." They take your "contribution" and copyright it. Then >they manufacture the CDs, publish the books and sell it. > >Is it me or does this seem wrong? I guess that little dialog box >that pops up and says "Thanks for your contribution" is payment >enough... > >In reality, the companies demand enforcement of the copyright law >means so that no one will do look-ups, the exchange of information on >the Internet dries up (including non-copyrighted info for fear of >harassment and backlash), and people will have to buy the CDs and >books to get any information at all. > >I'm not even going to go into the veracity of the information >contained on the CDs and in the Books. > >Marketing Terrorism today is considered a Good Market Strategy. > > >Just so I'm not accused of being off topic, I've written an article >on the Hines/Jeffers/McMahon/Norris family. The Hines family >includes the immigrant Baltzar Hines. Per the 1880 Census, Baltzar >Hines was a Blacksmith from Woodsfield, Monroe Co., Ohio. > >If anyone would like an article on the rather complex family >relationship that ensued, please let me know and I will forward it in >a format suitable to your desire (Word, Text, WP, etc...) > >Regards, >R. Jeffers >A one-time "contributor" to FTM... >My mistake and I do apologize. > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@wvinter.net> >To: OHMONROE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [OHMONROE-L] Fw: copyright >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:38:27 -0400 > >>T he "previous message" referred to below was a comment on >copyright >laws, and said that it is legal to give another person a lookup of >one or 2 >names, from a copyrighted book that you own, but what is called a >"blanket >lookup", (all information on a certain name, or large passages from a >specific book) is an infringement of this law. With genealogy now >online, >this is new ground and we all need to be responsible, and not ruin >the >really good thing we have going for us. Several lists I belong to >now no >longer will allow lookups done from any book/CD unless the owner has >written >permission from >>the author. Let me tell you, this kind of policy reduces the >lookups to >>about zip! This is really going to hurt us all, so I suggest that >we try >to stay within the limits of the law. >> >> >>This, from another list manager: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>To the best of my knowledge, the previous message on copyright >>>infringement was correct. A request to look-up all of the SMITH's is >>>incorrect. We should all try to be a little more specific. >>>The April issue of the IIGS Newsletter is now online at >>> >>>http://www.iigs.org/newsletter/9904news/index.htm.en >>> >>>This month, in a coordinated effort with the US Internet >Genealogical >>>Society (USIGS) and the Brown Family Genealogicial Society, IIGS >>>Newsletter focuses on issues such as copyright infringement and >>>plagiarism and the need to develop standards and guidelines for >>>responsible online genealogy. >>> >. >> > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

    04/08/1999 05:52:21
    1. [OHMONROE-L] big fan chart for geneology
    2. Ruth Rinehart
    3. Did anyone see the nice piece on geneology that Martha Stewart did in her April 1999 issue of Martha Stewart Living? She highlighted some beautiful, artistic family trees. In particular, I am interested in the big, symmetrical fan wall chart. I've seen several different kinds of wall charts produced by geneology software, and haven't been particularly happy with any of them. The fan chart in the magazine is simple, and filled in by hand, on one large sheet of paper. The one shown went back 10 generations. Does anyone know where one can purchase such a chart? Mail order would be ideal. Thanks!

    04/08/1999 04:31:38