I look at Ancestry.Com two ways:1. Operational and 2.Data The operational side of Ancestry needs some work. Sometimes it is so difficult to review information. It is constantly being unavailable which is increasing in frequency. The organization of the data they have housed has become complex. I am not sure what is out there any more. The way updates are done for errors is old and antiquated. It does not work properly. When you change something it should update it to make the actual correction. Not just an informational marker. The functionality of it does not work properly. You would think they could hire programmers to make this work more efficiently. When you call to speak to a technician you never get a call back nor do I ever receive an answer from an email reporting an issue. Data on the other hand is another issue. When an existing tree is updated. It appears that the same information makes another tree based on update date. It should update the record you update. Not add another line. This takes up a lot of server space. Needless to say how many times have you had to look at the same persons information 3 or 4 times since it is a separate tree. There should be permanent standardized fields built in for data. For the most part I think it works great. It is time consuming as with any research. I use it a lot and I think it is very reasonably priced for the information on it. I can work from my home, print, copy and paste. I have a cost savings of not having to purchase materials from other resources. Most historical societies want you to pay to see their information online. So you pay either way you go. -----Original Message----- From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:48 AM To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Museum Question (Mary Ann Booher) 2. Re: Museum Question (Mary Ann Booher) 3. genealogyservices (jeanne hime) 4. Re: Museum Question (Lempacre@aol.com) 5. Re: genealogyservices (CRUSE) 6. Re: Museum Question (SUSZH@aol.com) 7. Re: genealogyservices (barbara) 8. Re: genealogyservices (CRUSE) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:29:50 -0500 From: "Mary Ann Booher" <lbooher6@woh.rr.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002501c86d8c$1bb820c0$bb00a8c0@VIRGO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I use Ancestry, because I am in position to. I understand the frustration of those that find it costly. BUT...when we were living in Florida, I had no access to a research library. At least not one that held information I needed (there was a LDS library about 45 minutes away with limited hours and facilities) Ancestry filled the void. No travel expenses, no waiting for someone to finish using the microfilm reader or fiche. No copy cost. While Ancestry kept me researching....its is only as good as the person adding the entry, much like the IGI. What is most convenient is the availability of the census information and the ease of it's use. To sit in my home and be able to display the page of the census needed, without a line by line search is, in my opinion, a minor miracle. To think of the hours spent when that was the only way to find someone! Now, with more and more available: Newspapers, Pictures, books, I can't imagine what else will soon be found there. Yes, the charge. Yes, it is relatively expensive...yes, they use your research. The other point I would like to make is, that having information on Ancestry is that YOU WON'T LOSE IT, in a computer crash, a housefire, or any other calamity. Mary Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "CRUSE" <visionwarrior@verizon.net> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > Well, I have to agree with Tim on this. I am 66, raising a 15 yr. old grandson myself on extremely minimal income and am really frustrated with all these "pay us and we'll tell ya" sites. Ancestry.com is the worst, and unfortunately many areas of genealogy are buying into that site so that it seems if you want some info from one area, you must still pay a.com to get it. Suz > > Sharon Specht <mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com> wrote: Tim, > I am just looking at it from the point of view of an amateur genealogist, who thinks it a real bargain as compared to the price of travel expenses, not to mention time involved in traveling to libraries, family history libraries, etc.etc. > > Does anyone else here have an opinion on this, just out of curiosity? > Sharon > > Buckshot wrote: > Sharon, > > I won't contribute to any site that requires a subscription. > > They are making money off of my or our research, and I just won't > participate in it. > > Tim Tucker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Specht" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:40 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > > > > How about a Public Family Tree on ancestry.com with the photos, etc. > > available online to anyone with a subscription? > > I am very fond of this site and how easy it is to find relevant > > information. > > Sharon > > > > Edythe98@aol.com wrote: > > > > If you are referring to data, you might consider donating your material to > > OGS in Mansfield. Once their new building is finished they will much more > > room > > for family histories. I have made notations on each of my family notebooks > > and file folders to donate my material and have made a notation with my > > Will. > > > > Also - all genealogy publications I have purchased for researching will be > > donated to my local library's genealogy dept. with the stipulation if they > > already have to try to find another nearby library - such as a more major > > city, to > > accept the duplicates. > > > > On my maternal side I have many photographs from the 1800s as well as > > family > > bibles from mid-1800s and was concerned about them. Fortunately, I have a > > cousin who has a son very interested in family history and have stipulated > > for > > those items to be given to them. In fact, due to my age, I have already > > begun > > giving them some of the original photographs and keeping the scanned > > copies. > > > > On my paternal side, there is no one to pass photographs on so they will > > be > > included with the family notebooks to be given to OGS. > > > > Personally, I prefer these options vs the LDS Church as more people will > > be > > able to access them at all times. I have had one problem with the LDS > > Church > > in Wyoming that has documents and photographs that I am unable to access. > > I > > also prefer to keep everything as local as possible. > > > > OHS [Ohio Historical Society] in Columbus has been cut back so drastically > > due to budgets, they do not seem to be able to maintain material well any > > more > > but that is also another option. At least you would know the information > > would > > be preserved. > > > > I hope this gives you some ideas. > > Shirley > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/11/2008 3:19:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > buckshot@ohiolink.net writes: > > > > Also, where do you put this information for safe keeping? I have no > > children, two nephews and a niece, none with the Tucker name, and I am not > > sure how interested they will be in preserving it. > > > > I have heard that you can turn it in to the LDS Church, but I have never > > heard how to do this and I have NOT been able to get back information that > > I > > know was compiled on the Mitchell side of the family mentioned above by a > > cousin of mine who did that work. I can't seem to find anyone who will > > tell > > me how to get a copy of that information back to our branch of the family, > > so I am hesitant to deposit any information there. > > > > > > > > > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. 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Try it now. > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:34:59 -0500 From: "Mary Ann Booher" <lbooher6@woh.rr.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003801c86d8c$d3dec460$bb00a8c0@VIRGO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'll second that, Suz! Troy Local History Library is a remarkable place! Mary Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "CRUSE" <visionwarrior@verizon.net> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > I haven't been up to the Library for tooo long, but I can certainly tell people that it is an excellent resource! Not only is there a wonderful bunch of information, but a wonderful bunch of friendly, helpful people. I don't know if there are researchers for folks from out of state or town, but if you are where you have access to Troy (N. of Dayton at I-75) it would be a grand place to look into. Since I just live in Tipp City, I really ought to go much more often! Suz > > barbara <besecker@woh.rr.com> wrote: I, as assistant archivist at the Local History Library in Troy, Miami > County, Ohio, would like to offer our location at 100 W. Main St., as a site > that would be interested in collections of family histories. > > People come from all over the US to visit with our library. I know it is > because they have used our website ( www.tdn-net.com/genealogy ) to find > information that brings them here. We have been contacted and visited by > people around the world for help in searching their family tree. > > We are a branch location of the Troy-Miami County Public Library and work in > cooperation with the Troy Historical Society to house a collection of family > and county information. If you would like more details please contact me. > > Thanks > Barbara Besecker > Asst. Archivist, Local History Library > Webmaster www.tdn-net.com/genealogy > Administrator OHMIAMI, WACKLER, BESECKER, LACHAT, ELSMAN, DEMOSS > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:56:39 -0800 (PST) From: jeanne hime <jkh1952@yahoo.com> Subject: [OHMIAMI] genealogyservices To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <108082.75167.qm@web45506.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My local library has a subscription to ancestry.com library edition. I can go there anytime and do research for free. It is an excellent program with lots of census information. I never have to wait to use a terminal. If your local library does not subscribe to genealogy services, I suggest you inquire about the possibility that they do so. Also some museums have public access to these services. I think Garst Museum in Darke County does and The Preble County Library's genealogy center does. This has been a great help to me and I have met some very pleasent and helpful people there. Jeanne Hime --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:04:46 EST From: Lempacre@aol.com Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c40.2b80c684.34e31d9e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 2/12/08 4:45:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com writes: > I am just looking at it from the point of view of an amateur genealogist, > who thinks it a real bargain as compared to the price of travel expenses, > not to mention time involved in traveling to libraries, family history > libraries, etc.etc. > I agree. I also hooked up with a cousin in Wales (our grandmothers were sisters) because she put her tree information at ancestry. Margie ************** The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: CRUSE <visionwarrior@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] genealogyservices To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <88629.16696.qm@web84111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well, THANKS for the info, Jeanne! What a great help. I just live around the corner from our Tipp City Library, and I will see if we have that service. I've never been over to the Garst Museum, but always wanted to. Your lovely wake up call will surely push me over there! Thanks again Suz (Susan Cruse) jeanne hime <jkh1952@yahoo.com> wrote: My local library has a subscription to ancestry.com library edition. I can go there anytime and do research for free. It is an excellent program with lots of census information. I never have to wait to use a terminal. If your local library does not subscribe to genealogy services, I suggest you inquire about the possibility that they do so. Also some museums have public access to these services. I think Garst Museum in Darke County does and The Preble County Library's genealogy center does. This has been a great help to me and I have met some very pleasent and helpful people there. Jeanne Hime --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:28:11 EST From: SUSZH@aol.com Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d0e.201a3251.34e3231b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 2/12/2008 9:30:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, lbooher6@woh.rr.com writes: yes, they use your research.Speaking of Ancestry.com I'm curious as to how they use your research? Would someone explain, please? Susan **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:37:54 -0500 From: "barbara" <besecker@woh.rr.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] genealogyservices To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <007501c86d95$9dbc57e0$d93507a0$@rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Troy-Miami County Public Library, Troy Local History Library and Pleasant Hill Library all have free Ancestry.com for its patrons. Thanks Barbara Besecker Asst. Archivist, Local History Library Webmaster tdn-net.com/genealogy Administrator OHMIAMI, WACKLER, BESECKER, LACHAT, ELSMAN, DEMOSS -----Original Message----- From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jeanne hime Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHMIAMI] genealogyservices My local library has a subscription to ancestry.com library edition. I can go there anytime and do research for free. It is an excellent program with lots of census information. I never have to wait to use a terminal. If your local library does not subscribe to genealogy services, I suggest you inquire about the possibility that they do so. Also some museums have public access to these services. I think Garst Museum in Darke County does and The Preble County Library's genealogy center does. This has been a great help to me and I have met some very pleasent and helpful people there. Jeanne Hime ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) From: CRUSE <visionwarrior@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] genealogyservices To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <351748.93525.qm@web84109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Oh my! THANKS so much. Just the push I needed to get back up to the TLHL! barbara <besecker@woh.rr.com> wrote: The Troy-Miami County Public Library, Troy Local History Library and Pleasant Hill Library all have free Ancestry.com for its patrons. Thanks Barbara Besecker Asst. Archivist, Local History Library Webmaster tdn-net.com/genealogy Administrator OHMIAMI, WACKLER, BESECKER, LACHAT, ELSMAN, DEMOSS -----Original Message----- From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jeanne hime Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:57 AM To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHMIAMI] genealogyservices My local library has a subscription to ancestry.com library edition. I can go there anytime and do research for free. It is an excellent program with lots of census information. I never have to wait to use a terminal. If your local library does not subscribe to genealogy services, I suggest you inquire about the possibility that they do so. Also some museums have public access to these services. I think Garst Museum in Darke County does and The Preble County Library's genealogy center does. This has been a great help to me and I have met some very pleasent and helpful people there. Jeanne Hime tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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