Carol - looks like we do not connect. Thanks for responding. Shirley In a message dated 2/8/2008 10:16:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, grannyjo2@verizon.net writes: My Hartmans are limited basically to Letha Hartman who married John Edward Barbour [ son of Lowry and Hetty Dalzell Barbour ] It appears she was the daughter of Abraham Brubaker Hartman and Delilah Campbell [ Abraham's second wife] . Letha and Edward Barbour moved to Canada and it appears she died there in 1920 - she is buried in Riverside Cem. in a plot owned jointly by her husband and his brother Robert . According to information on Ancestry Abraham was born in Millersville, Lancaster Co. Pa. If we have any connection I would love to know more Carol **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)