My AOL does not work as well either- i rarely get a message there anymore, as says like I just sent to Allen's email and it came back. I am posting this message for him, but encourage others with same families to use: The Landis families intermarry going back on Eikenberry genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5971/iken.html also Landis: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/5971/landis.html which my cousin Ola Kreider (1888-1987) married Forest Landis: 4--Daniel Landis b.Stark Co OH 1-1829 s-Susannah Deeter b.OH 1832 5--David D. Landis b.OH c1857 s-Sarah A. b.OH c1857 parents b.OH 6--John H. Landis b.OH c1882 6--Forest C. Landis b.OH c1892 s-Ola Kreider 7--Vier H. Landis b.OH c2-1915 7--Otis J. Landis Rev. b.OH c4-1917 7--Gail Landis 7--Ila Jean Landis b.Pleasant Hill OH 8-26-1928 d.OH 4-2-2007 s-Robert Merill Minnich d.1997 8-- 8-- 8-- 8-- 8-- 6--Roy Landis b.OH c1898 I believe is the direct connection to Landis's. My Miller family are the Amish ones from Lancaster PA and Holmes COunty, OHio. But i have 2 intermarriages of Peter Miller's descendants (book about him written by Eldon Miller) and many Miller intermarriages to this Miller family going back to Johann Mueller (Charles Andrews who did the Eikenberry and Landis families above site also has this Miller site included) http://www.frontierfamilies.net/Family/Miller/home.htm Puterbaugh was a few places intermarriage- I know Enid Eikenberry (1903-1994) married John Edward Puterbaugh (1902-1995)(I have a book he did on a family that took care of him (both his parents were around, but he was brought by this other family- I believe John's mother was a Kleppinger) called 'The Life and Story of Lydia Dohner and Samuel Christian). All these names are talked about always on the Brethren Listserv, that I highly recommend joining. Patrick --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.