I have had that happen, too, but not just from people I have found through Ancestry.com. It has nothing to do with them - it is the people we have tried to contact that for whatever reason are not interested in replying. That is no reflection on Ancestry or any other Genealogy website. Of course it is frustrating, especially when it appears that you may have found the connection you are looking for, but in all ways, genealogy is a slow process and can only be put together piece by piece as you collect sources that help you put it together. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick McGarry To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 12 February, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: [OHMIAMI] RE Ancestry.com Ancestry- ALso I find the ones that have posted info, i contact them especially when I find something wrong and do not hear back from most of them. That has got me angry too with them having wrong info, because you can network and connect the other's info, but may never hear from them.

Apparently, you did at one time as I wrote them and phoned them and was told both times that my user code and password was invalid because it did not match the e-mail address those were assigned to and that it could not be changed. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Hi Debbie, > > You do not need an email address to sign in and edit your WorldConnect > gedcom at RootsWeb. All you need is your user code or ID that you chose > when you first uploaded your gedcom and your password which you also > chose. The email address is changed in the edit process. Just choose > advance options. > > If you lost or misplaced your user code and password, then I would expect > that the people and RootsWeb would not be able to help you since they do > not have that information, only the submitter does. > > Bottom line, when you first upload your gedcom to WorldConnect, write down > your user code and password in a SAFE place. I keep mine in my agenda. > > I hope this is of some help and that you are able to update your > incomplete information. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 13 February, 2008 12:08 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change > your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit > and > correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But > for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the > best. > When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't > documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I > had > a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in > to > correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and > their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. > I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information > out > of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want > to > mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the > person > or put a post em with the correction. > My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, > then > put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great > features > and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone > looking > at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, > although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess > my > site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely > nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or > change > your information anytime. You are in complete control. > If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look > below my name for mine. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one > of > > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I > support > > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or > museum. > > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a > PAF > > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this > PAF > > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly > to > > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers > staff > > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy > was > > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in > genealogy > > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > > that the LDS websites can seem like a > > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own > information. I > > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to > make > > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly > contact > > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can > only > > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide > audience > > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. > Its > > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My > > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > > only > > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank > you > > and you need a subscription.. > > June > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > >> News to me.... > >> > >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > >> housed? > >> > >> Linda > >> in Costa Rica > >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > >> Monroe County, NY History > >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com > >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: > >> > >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for > >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > >> changes made > >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the > >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed > >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten > >> me angry > >> with them. > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy > >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > > now. > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't see where they are charging us for putting our info on there or how they are making any money off of our trees. The cost to have employees to gather records and those with the computer knowledge to get those records online and organized online for us to search and all the other things they need to operate must be enormous. I, for one, do not have the time or money it would take to travel everywhere I need to research my ancestors. It would take me years to find everything I've been able to find in a few hours or days or weeks on there. Their every name indexes, which are not perfect but still the best available anywhere, alone are worth the price of the subscription. I do think we all need to put this topic to bed now and get back to Miami County research. My main Miami County surnames are Carter, Dobbins, Steen, and Beason. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > That is an excellent point, Debbie. We can all search at RootsWeb for > free and it is a part of Ancestry.com. What's more, they host this and > all other mailing lists and offer free websites - the GenWeb sites, > FreePages. So even though they charge for their main website, they also > give back a lot to the genealogical community. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:30 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees > are > still on rootsweb free. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > News to me.... > > > > What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > housed? > > > > Linda > > in Costa Rica > > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > Monroe County, NY History > > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gwamma38@aol.com > > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > > Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: > > > > >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space > for > > anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > > changes made > > are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the > > information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > > > > > > > > Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed > > sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten > > me angry > > with them. > > > > > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy > > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Debbie, have you tried contacting the helpdesk at RootsWeb (by email)? They are very helpful there. If you can provide enough information to them to prove the tree(s) is/are yours, there should be some way they could help you. If I were you I would give it another try... what do you have to lose? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Carder To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 February, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. Apparently, you did at one time as I wrote them and phoned them and was told both times that my user code and password was invalid because it did not match the e-mail address those were assigned to and that it could not be changed. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Hi Debbie, > > You do not need an email address to sign in and edit your WorldConnect > gedcom at RootsWeb. All you need is your user code or ID that you chose > when you first uploaded your gedcom and your password which you also > chose. The email address is changed in the edit process. Just choose > advance options. > > If you lost or misplaced your user code and password, then I would expect > that the people and RootsWeb would not be able to help you since they do > not have that information, only the submitter does. > > Bottom line, when you first upload your gedcom to WorldConnect, write down > your user code and password in a SAFE place. I keep mine in my agenda. > > I hope this is of some help and that you are able to update your > incomplete information. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 13 February, 2008 12:08 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change > your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit > and > correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But > for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the > best. > When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't > documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I > had > a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in > to > correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and > their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. > I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information > out > of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want > to > mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the > person > or put a post em with the correction. > My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, > then > put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great > features > and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone > looking > at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, > although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess > my > site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely > nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or > change > your information anytime. You are in complete control. > If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look > below my name for mine. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one > of > > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I > support > > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or > museum. > > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a > PAF > > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this > PAF > > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly > to > > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers > staff > > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy > was > > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in > genealogy > > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > > that the LDS websites can seem like a > > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own > information. I > > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to > make > > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly > contact > > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can > only > > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide > audience > > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. > Its > > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My > > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > > only > > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank > you > > and you need a subscription.. > > June > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > >> News to me.... > >> > >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > >> housed? > >> > >> Linda > >> in Costa Rica > >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > >> Monroe County, NY History > >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com > >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: > >> > >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for > >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > >> changes made > >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the > >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed > >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten > >> me angry > >> with them. > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy > >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > > now. > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ancestry uses a username and password, you do not need a specific email address to sign in. For LDS, go to their website and click on the link for the catalog. Once there, you have several options for searching. I find the best to be by place meaning the town where your ancestors were for the records you want. Add the country or state after the town name and enter and then you will find a listing of what is available for that area. Each one is clickable. When you find the one you are interested in - say Catholic Church records for the town of your choice, click on that listing. In the upper right hand corner on the information page for that roll of film there is a button to click which is called "film notes" or similar. Click on that and you will be given the pertinent film numbers. There could be more than one. Each has a description of what years and parishes the film covers. Hope this helps! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary & Herman Kiser To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 February, 2008 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 Boy am I ever glad I read this latest email. I was/am in the process of changing my email address due to going high speed. Now I read that I won't be able to access my trees on ancestry. Now I don't know what to do. I have went out to the LDS website. How are you supposed to know WHICH information to order in on an ancestor?

The best way for ANY genealogist to safeguard their information in case of a computer crash or other tragedy IS TO BACK IT UP! Buy an external hard drive, use CD's, DVD's or thumbnail drive or look into the online services that offer space to back-up all of your files. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: RAY FRIESS To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 February, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything If someone has no problem with giving their hard work to a company and letting them make money off of it, and having to maybe pay to retrieve your own information if you have a crash, then all the more power to you. Most people find it objectionable and arrogant. That's the only point I'm trying to make... Now .. back to the research. > From: lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:59:12 -0600> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> > That is an excellent point, Debbie. We can all search at RootsWeb for free and it is a part of Ancestry.com. What's more, they host this and all other mailing lists and offer free websites - the GenWeb sites, FreePages. So even though they charge for their main website, they also give back a lot to the genealogical community.> > Linda> in Costa Rica> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> Monroe County, NY History> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:30 PM> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> > > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees are > still on rootsweb free.> Debbie Ca! rder Mayes> > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/

To all who are reading the ongoing blurb about genealogy services: I need to put in my 2cents worth. I have been involved with ancestry.com since it's inception. NO, I do not work for them! I have watched them grow to be what they are today. They are building databases to accommodate more and more researchers. Yes, the yearly fee seems overwhelming to one not having a library with the subscription, but it is SO worth it. The History center in Troy, Ohio, is a wonderful resource center for Miami County research, with the added bonus, as has been posted, of Ancestry.com. There is another new site available for free, to all researchers looking for Ohio deaths. The death certificates are online for FREE...not even Ohio State can match that. Here is the website. You must log in and get a password, and that takes about a day. It is well worth it: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/. Let's put the issue to rest and get on with positive, helpful research. De Hill -----Original Message----- From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Carder Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:09 PM To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit and correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the best. When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I had a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in to correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information out of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want to mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the person or put a post em with the correction. My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, then put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great features and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone looking at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess my site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or change your information anytime. You are in complete control. If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look below my name for mine. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one of > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I support > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or museum. > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a PAF > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this PAF > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly to > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers staff > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy was > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in genealogy > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > that the LDS websites can seem like a > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own information. I > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to make > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly contact > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can only > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide audience > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. Its > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > only > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank you > and you need a subscription.. > June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information >> housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. 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I don't know Sharon. It wasn't until I read the previous email that got me to thinking. I do know one thing for sure. About six months ago I made a slight change to the "title" of my family tree on ancestry. Well my thinking was that it would change the ALL old to the new listing. Well it didn't. I even called ancestry about it. I was told they have people that have changed their family tree name several times and its like a new one each time along with all the old ones. Ancestry does have some holes. On the listing there is no place for communion. Names changes are hard to list. I have a nephew born with one name, his father wouldn't pay child support so when his mother remarried and his new stepfather adopted him for another name change. Years later because his father/stepfather was very very mean and brutal, my nephew changed his name again when he joined the Navy to a variation of his grandfather. I know, I know its very screwed up. Also I am working on my husbands family tree. His grandfather didn't get along with his wife's parents. She died in 1915 and he left his two children with their grandparents/in laws. He went to Pennsylvania and started a new family. We know that he died sometime in the 1960's. And no he did not change his name. Any suggestions on how to find him? I have scoured Ancestry but come up empty handed. ----- Original Message ----- From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:54 AM Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 48 Today's Topics: 1. Ancestry comments, etc. (Sharon Specht) 2. Re: Ancestry comments, etc. (Pamela WELLS nee ROBERSON) 3. Re: Ancestry charges for almost everything (Edythe98@aol.com<mailto:Edythe98@aol.com>) 4. Re: Ancestry charges for almost everything (RAY FRIESS) 5. Re: Ancestry charges for almost everything (Debbie Carder) 6. Re: Museum Question (Linda H. Gutierrez) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:55:53 -0800 (PST) From: Sharon Specht <mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com<mailto:mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com>> Subject: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry comments, etc. To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <724692.43103.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com<mailto:724692.43103.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm glad I asked for opinions on ancestry.com. I have learned a lot. For one thing, I had never heard of Tribal Pages, but now will check it out. About changing your e-mail address - can't you continue to use your old one just as your site identity? What I mean is - when I go to my mother's house and log in to my ancestry or similar accounts, I just type in my information and it doesn't matter that it is on someone elses' computer... Sharon --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:03:06 -0500 From: "Pamela WELLS nee ROBERSON" <familygeno@gmail.com<mailto:familygeno@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry comments, etc. To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <32b58ab40802130503h3a0f3db9p11f3f11d4504a7c3@mail.gmail.com<mailto:32b58ab40802130503h3a0f3db9p11f3f11d4504a7c3@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Miami County, OH List Group: Tribalpages is a great place to post your genealogy to make it accessible to anyone wishing to see your family tree. I have used the paid version of it for about 3 years and I've been very happy with its service. Its free version is worth checking out also; however, it has banners on the pages which may or may not bother you. Happy hunting for all your family treasures, Pamela WELLS nee ROBERSON Trinity, FL via Dayton, OH ROBERSON ~ WELLS Family Website: http://www.wellsp.tribalpages.com<http://www.wellsp.tribalpages.com/> FamilyGeno@gmail.com<mailto:FamilyGeno@gmail.com> Pamela WELLS nee ROBERSON http://wellsp.tribalpages.com<http://wellsp.tribalpages.com/> On Feb 13, 2008 7:55 AM, Sharon Specht <mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com<mailto:mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com>> wrote: > I'm glad I asked for opinions on ancestry.com. I have learned a lot. For one thing, I had never heard of Tribal Pages, but now will check it out. > About changing your e-mail address - can't you continue to use your old one just as your site identity? What I mean is - when I go to my mother's house and log in to my ancestry or similar accounts, I just type in my information and it doesn't matter that it is on someone elses' computer... > Sharon > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:43:27 EST From: Edythe98@aol.com<mailto:Edythe98@aol.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <c04.2cf48103.34e44dff@aol.com<mailto:c04.2cf48103.34e44dff@aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" How may I ask would Ancestry be able to continue if they did not charge for subscriptions? They have to pay employees, pay for obtaining information, pay for internet space, and just like any other company, pay all taxes, etc., covering employees, buildings, etc. I, for one, have used Ancestry for almost ten years and have had no problems. I have a few family trees posted and have corrected with no problems. I have asked for assistance from their tech service and received help with no problems. I think it boils down to a person's choice - either join or not. No one is forced to pay a membership fee. BTW - my trees are still on Rootsweb as well as Ancestry. They have also had my credit card number for almost ten years and I always get an advanced notification that they will automatically renew my subscription unless I contact them. For every person that has had a problem, there are many more that have had none. Just like dealing with any other company. As far as finding information on the internet through societies, libraries, et al - it takes volunteers. So ask yourself when was the last time you walked a cemetery and transcribed it. Or gone to a court house and looked up birth, marriages, and deaths and transcribed them and offered to a library or genealogical society. Or even offered yourself as a volunteer look-up on any publications you have or looking up items at your local facilities for people who cannot get to your area. Now can we please get back to what this site is all about? Sharing information and helping each other. Shirley Shirley **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:22:52 +0000 From: RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr@msn.com<mailto:rayfrijr@msn.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <BAY118-W40E6BDEB1C4B368CF95621CA240@phx.gbl<mailto:BAY118-W40E6BDEB1C4B368CF95621CA240@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have no problem with ancestry or any other business charging for THEIR product or information. However, the problem that I DO have is that YOUR product (in this case compiled information, sometimes put together at great cost and time) is just that .... YOURS .. It is something YOU did, it is not THEIRS and in the case of your family history they did NOTHING to create that family tree. Yet, they talk people into putting it online on THEIR site, they pay you and give you NOTHING for that family tree (except ... big deal .. a place to put it online ... something you can do elsewhere without any hostage holding). Then, they turn around and charge YOU and anyone else who wants to see YOUR information money which they keep in THEIR pocket. Just like the person who wrote in relating how a computer crash wiped out their home database, which they had previously submitted to ancestry. The person asked for the simple help or courtesy of allowing them to retrieve a copy of their OWN information and was told "Sorry, not unless you pay for your own information by subscribing." Ancestry gives you NOTHING in return for anything you give them .... no free access to anything ... not even the Social Security Death Index is free at ancestry. That is why ancestry is the LAST place ... if even that ... that I would post my family tree on. With search engines, it is easy to find a family tree you create and put online and there are too many other places that dont engage in unfriendly customer relations. In my humble opinion, ancestry may, indeed, have a wealth of information, but they have some of the most arrogant and predatory practices and take advantage of others in an effort to line their own pockets. They use OUR information to make money for themselves when it comes to family trees. I will have no part in helping them make money for themselves with my and my cousin's efforts. If they want to sell and make money with their OWN efforts, that is just fine .... that's free market economy. Compile information, buy, catalog and put online documents, etc But taking and demanding YOUR money for YOUR efforts and giving you nothing in return, not even appreciation, is not free market economy ... it has another name. Please understand that I DO use ancestry. I use it for free in libraries that have chosen to pay for a subscription. I have found great information on it. My objections to ancestry come from practices occuring with information such as family trees or gedcoms submitted by other people for which ancestry pays nothing to acquire and then charging others for it.... including the people who submitted it. > From: Edythe98@aol.com<mailto:Edythe98@aol.com>> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:43:27 -0500> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> > How may I ask would Ancestry be able to continue if they did not charge for > subscriptions? They have to pay employees, pay for obtaining information, pay > for internet space, and just like any other company, pay all taxes, etc., > covering employees, buildings, etc.> > I, for one, have used Ancestry for almost ten years and have had no problems. > I have a few family trees posted and have corrected with no problems. I > have asked for assistance from their tech service and received help with no > problems.> > I think it boils down to a person's choice - either join or not. No one is > forced to pay a membership fee. BTW - my trees are still on Rootsweb as well > as Ancestry. They have also had my credit card number for almost ten years and > I always get an advanced notification that they will automatically renew my > ! subscription unless I contact them.> > For every person that has had a problem, there are many more that have had > none. Just like dealing with any other company.> > As far as finding information on the internet through societies, libraries, > et al - it takes volunteers. So ask yourself when was the last time you walked > a cemetery and transcribed it. Or gone to a court house and looked up birth, > marriages, and deaths and transcribed them and offered to a library or > genealogical society. Or even offered yourself as a volunteer look-up on any > publications you have or looking up items at your local facilities for people who > cannot get to your area.> > Now can we please get back to what this site is all about? Sharing > information and helping each other.> > Shirley> > Shirley> > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>)> tdn-net.com/genealogy> --! -----------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please se nd an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:25:09 -0500 From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <011901c86e4c$3cff6700$6501a8c0@Debbie<mailto:011901c86e4c$3cff6700$6501a8c0@Debbie>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes, I agree with everything you are saying. I also agree, that while I have enjoyed this conversation, I think it's time to get back to what this list is for-Miami County research and was thinking about suggesting that myself. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Edythe98@aol.com<mailto:Edythe98@aol.com>> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > How may I ask would Ancestry be able to continue if they did not charge > for > subscriptions? They have to pay employees, pay for obtaining information, > pay > for internet space, and just like any other company, pay all taxes, etc., > covering employees, buildings, etc. > > I, for one, have used Ancestry for almost ten years and have had no > problems. > I have a few family trees posted and have corrected with no problems. I > have asked for assistance from their tech service and received help with > no > problems. > > I think it boils down to a person's choice - either join or not. No one > is > forced to pay a membership fee. BTW - my trees are still on Rootsweb as > well > as Ancestry. They have also had my credit card number for almost ten > years and > I always get an advanced notification that they will automatically renew > my > subscription unless I contact them. > > For every person that has had a problem, there are many more that have had > none. Just like dealing with any other company. > > As far as finding information on the internet through societies, > libraries, > et al - it takes volunteers. So ask yourself when was the last time you > walked > a cemetery and transcribed it. Or gone to a court house and looked up > birth, > marriages, and deaths and transcribed them and offered to a library or > genealogical society. Or even offered yourself as a volunteer look-up on > any > publications you have or looking up items at your local facilities for > people who > cannot get to your area. > > Now can we please get back to what this site is all about? Sharing > information and helping each other. > > Shirley > > Shirley > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:53:15 -0600 From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <001e01c86e50$2ba064b0$6401a8c0@LINDACOMPUTER<mailto:001e01c86e50$2ba064b0$6401a8c0@LINDACOMPUTER>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you! But I think we both added something. :-) Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Carder To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question Actually, I thought you said it best. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr>> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > Well said, Debbie. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > > > How do they use your research? The only thing I know done with your own > is > that it is posted at your own request. They do not change it, added or > subtract form it, or take anything from it. They just provide a service > for > you to be able to put yours online for others to find. If you don't want > to > share it, no one forces you to put it on there. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Ann Booher" <lbooher6@woh.rr.com<mailto:lbooher6@woh.rr.com>> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > > > >I use Ancestry, because I am in position to. I understand the > frustration > >of > > those that find it costly. BUT...when we were living in Florida, I had > no > > access to a research library. At least not one that held information I > > needed (there was a LDS library about 45 minutes away with limited > hours > > and > > facilities) Ancestry filled the void. No travel expenses, no waiting > for > > someone to finish using the microfilm reader or fiche. No copy cost. > > > > While Ancestry kept me researching....its is only as good as the person > > adding the entry, much like the IGI. What is most convenient is the > > availability of the census information and the ease of it's use. To > sit > > in > > my home and be able to display the > > page of the census needed, without a line by line search is, in my > > opinion, > > a minor > > miracle. To think of the hours spent when that was the only way to > find > > someone! > > Now, with more and more available: Newspapers, Pictures, books, I can't > > imagine what else will soon be found there. > > > > Yes, the charge. Yes, it is relatively expensive...yes, they use your > > research. > > The other point I would like to make is, that having information on > > Ancestry > > is that YOU WON'T LOSE IT, in a computer crash, a housefire, or any > other > > calamity. > > > > Mary Ann > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "CRUSE" <visionwarrior@verizon.net<mailto:visionwarrior@verizon.net>> > > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > > > > > >> Well, I have to agree with Tim on this. I am 66, raising a 15 yr. old > > grandson myself on extremely minimal income and am really frustrated > with > > all these "pay us and we'll tell ya" sites. Ancestry.com is the worst, > and > > unfortunately many areas of genealogy are buying into that site so that > it > > seems if you want some info from one area, you must still pay a.com to > get > > it. Suz > >> > >> Sharon Specht <mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com<mailto:mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com>> wrote: Tim, > >> I am just looking at it from the point of view of an amateur > genealogist, > > who thinks it a real bargain as compared to the price of travel > expenses, > > not to mention time involved in traveling to libraries, family history > > libraries, etc.etc. > >> > >> Does anyone else here have an opinion on this, just out of curiosity? > >> Sharon > >> > >> Buckshot wrote: > >> Sharon, > >> > >> I won't contribute to any site that requires a subscription. > >> > >> They are making money off of my or our research, and I just won't > >> participate in it. > >> > >> Tim Tucker > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sharon Specht" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:40 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > >> > >> > >> > How about a Public Family Tree on ancestry.com with the photos, etc. > >> > available online to anyone with a subscription? > >> > I am very fond of this site and how easy it is to find relevant > >> > information. > >> > Sharon > >> > > >> > Edythe98@aol.com<mailto:Edythe98@aol.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > If you are referring to data, you might consider donating your > material > > to > >> > OGS in Mansfield. Once their new building is finished they will much > > more > >> > room > >> > for family histories. I have made notations on each of my family > > notebooks > >> > and file folders to donate my material and have made a notation with > my > >> > Will. > >> > > >> > Also - all genealogy publications I have purchased for researching > will > > be > >> > donated to my local library's genealogy dept. with the stipulation > if > > they > >> > already have to try to find another nearby library - such as a more > > major > >> > city, to > >> > accept the duplicates. > >> > > >> > On my maternal side I have many photographs from the 1800s as well > as > >> > family > >> > bibles from mid-1800s and was concerned about them. Fortunately, I > have > > a > >> > cousin who has a son very interested in family history and have > > stipulated > >> > for > >> > those items to be given to them. In fact, due to my age, I have > already > >> > begun > >> > giving them some of the original photographs and keeping the scanned > >> > copies. > >> > > >> > On my paternal side, there is no one to pass photographs on so they > >> > will > >> > be > >> > included with the family notebooks to be given to OGS. > >> > > >> > Personally, I prefer these options vs the LDS Church as more people > >> > will > >> > be > >> > able to access them at all times. I have had one problem with the > LDS > >> > Church > >> > in Wyoming that has documents and photographs that I am unable to > > access. > >> > I > >> > also prefer to keep everything as local as possible. > >> > > >> > OHS [Ohio Historical Society] in Columbus has been cut back so > > drastically > >> > due to budgets, they do not seem to be able to maintain material > well > > any > >> > more > >> > but that is also another option. At least you would know the > >> > information > >> > would > >> > be preserved. > >> > > >> > I hope this gives you some ideas. > >> > Shirley > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 2/11/2008 3:19:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >> > buckshot@ohiolink.net<mailto:buckshot@ohiolink.net> writes: > >> > > >> > Also, where do you put this information for safe keeping? I have no > >> > children, two nephews and a niece, none with the Tucker name, and I > am > > not > >> > sure how interested they will be in preserving it. > >> > > >> > I have heard that you can turn it in to the LDS Church, but I have > >> > never > >> > heard how to do this and I have NOT been able to get back > information > > that > >> > I > >> > know was compiled on the Mitchell side of the family mentioned above > by > > a > >> > cousin of mine who did that work. I can't seem to find anyone who > will > >> > tell > >> > me how to get a copy of that information back to our branch of the > > family, > >> > so I am hesitant to deposit any information there. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > >> > Grammy > >> > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) > >> > tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------- > >> > Never miss a thing. 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Only the submitter can delete the trees at RootsWeb WorldConnect. If the trees are no longer there, then the owner decided for whatever reason to remove it. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Will To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 February, 2008 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything Not all of them are still in Roots, Some of the ones I seen there in Roots of my families are gone since Ancestry got into it. THey told those who wanted to remove their info to do it. Otherwise it would als0 be Ancestry's. willma@sprynet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees are > still on rootsweb free. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Debbie, You do not need an email address to sign in and edit your WorldConnect gedcom at RootsWeb. All you need is your user code or ID that you chose when you first uploaded your gedcom and your password which you also chose. The email address is changed in the edit process. Just choose advance options. If you lost or misplaced your user code and password, then I would expect that the people and RootsWeb would not be able to help you since they do not have that information, only the submitter does. Bottom line, when you first upload your gedcom to WorldConnect, write down your user code and password in a SAFE place. I keep mine in my agenda. I hope this is of some help and that you are able to update your incomplete information. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Carder To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 February, 2008 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit and correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the best. When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I had a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in to correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information out of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want to mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the person or put a post em with the correction. My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, then put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great features and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone looking at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess my site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or change your information anytime. You are in complete control. If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look below my name for mine. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one of > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I support > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or museum. > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a PAF > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this PAF > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly to > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers staff > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy was > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in genealogy > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > that the LDS websites can seem like a > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own information. I > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to make > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly contact > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can only > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide audience > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. Its > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > only > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank you > and you need a subscription.. > June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information >> housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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Yes, I agree with everything you are saying. I also agree, that while I have enjoyed this conversation, I think it's time to get back to what this list is for-Miami County research and was thinking about suggesting that myself. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Edythe98@aol.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > How may I ask would Ancestry be able to continue if they did not charge > for > subscriptions? They have to pay employees, pay for obtaining information, > pay > for internet space, and just like any other company, pay all taxes, etc., > covering employees, buildings, etc. > > I, for one, have used Ancestry for almost ten years and have had no > problems. > I have a few family trees posted and have corrected with no problems. I > have asked for assistance from their tech service and received help with > no > problems. > > I think it boils down to a person's choice - either join or not. No one > is > forced to pay a membership fee. BTW - my trees are still on Rootsweb as > well > as Ancestry. They have also had my credit card number for almost ten > years and > I always get an advanced notification that they will automatically renew > my > subscription unless I contact them. > > For every person that has had a problem, there are many more that have had > none. Just like dealing with any other company. > > As far as finding information on the internet through societies, > libraries, > et al - it takes volunteers. So ask yourself when was the last time you > walked > a cemetery and transcribed it. Or gone to a court house and looked up > birth, > marriages, and deaths and transcribed them and offered to a library or > genealogical society. Or even offered yourself as a volunteer look-up on > any > publications you have or looking up items at your local facilities for > people who > cannot get to your area. > > Now can we please get back to what this site is all about? Sharing > information and helping each other. > > Shirley > > Shirley > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good advice, Jean! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: jeanne hime To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:32 PM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one of these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I support in my community or I go to a local historical society library or museum. They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a PAF file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this PAF file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly to protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers staff alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy was done by these tireless people long before I became interested in genealogy and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree that the LDS websites can seem like a juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own information. I know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to make any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly contact me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can only make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide audience who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. Its no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My computer crashed a few years back and I lost my genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said only with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank you and you need a subscription.. June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > News to me.... > > What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information housed? > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gwamma38@aol.com > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: > > >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for > anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > changes made > are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the > information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > > > > Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed > sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten > me angry > with them. > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is an excellent point, Debbie. We can all search at RootsWeb for free and it is a part of Ancestry.com. What's more, they host this and all other mailing lists and offer free websites - the GenWeb sites, FreePages. So even though they charge for their main website, they also give back a lot to the genealogical community. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Carder To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees are still on rootsweb free. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > News to me.... > > What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information housed? > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gwamma38@aol.com > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: > > >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for > anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > changes made > are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the > information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > > > > Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed > sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten > me angry > with them. > > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you! But I think we both added something. :-) Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Carder To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question Actually, I thought you said it best. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > Well said, Debbie. > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > > > How do they use your research? The only thing I know done with your own > is > that it is posted at your own request. They do not change it, added or > subtract form it, or take anything from it. They just provide a service > for > you to be able to put yours online for others to find. If you don't want > to > share it, no one forces you to put it on there. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Ann Booher" <lbooher6@woh.rr.com> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > > > >I use Ancestry, because I am in position to. I understand the > frustration > >of > > those that find it costly. BUT...when we were living in Florida, I had > no > > access to a research library. At least not one that held information I > > needed (there was a LDS library about 45 minutes away with limited > hours > > and > > facilities) Ancestry filled the void. No travel expenses, no waiting > for > > someone to finish using the microfilm reader or fiche. No copy cost. > > > > While Ancestry kept me researching....its is only as good as the person > > adding the entry, much like the IGI. What is most convenient is the > > availability of the census information and the ease of it's use. To > sit > > in > > my home and be able to display the > > page of the census needed, without a line by line search is, in my > > opinion, > > a minor > > miracle. To think of the hours spent when that was the only way to > find > > someone! > > Now, with more and more available: Newspapers, Pictures, books, I can't > > imagine what else will soon be found there. > > > > Yes, the charge. Yes, it is relatively expensive...yes, they use your > > research. > > The other point I would like to make is, that having information on > > Ancestry > > is that YOU WON'T LOSE IT, in a computer crash, a housefire, or any > other > > calamity. > > > > Mary Ann > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "CRUSE" <visionwarrior@verizon.net> > > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > > > > > >> Well, I have to agree with Tim on this. I am 66, raising a 15 yr. old > > grandson myself on extremely minimal income and am really frustrated > with > > all these "pay us and we'll tell ya" sites. Ancestry.com is the worst, > and > > unfortunately many areas of genealogy are buying into that site so that > it > > seems if you want some info from one area, you must still pay a.com to > get > > it. Suz > >> > >> Sharon Specht <mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com> wrote: Tim, > >> I am just looking at it from the point of view of an amateur > genealogist, > > who thinks it a real bargain as compared to the price of travel > expenses, > > not to mention time involved in traveling to libraries, family history > > libraries, etc.etc. > >> > >> Does anyone else here have an opinion on this, just out of curiosity? > >> Sharon > >> > >> Buckshot wrote: > >> Sharon, > >> > >> I won't contribute to any site that requires a subscription. > >> > >> They are making money off of my or our research, and I just won't > >> participate in it. > >> > >> Tim Tucker > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Sharon Specht" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:40 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question > >> > >> > >> > How about a Public Family Tree on ancestry.com with the photos, etc. > >> > available online to anyone with a subscription? > >> > I am very fond of this site and how easy it is to find relevant > >> > information. > >> > Sharon > >> > > >> > Edythe98@aol.com wrote: > >> > > >> > If you are referring to data, you might consider donating your > material > > to > >> > OGS in Mansfield. Once their new building is finished they will much > > more > >> > room > >> > for family histories. I have made notations on each of my family > > notebooks > >> > and file folders to donate my material and have made a notation with > my > >> > Will. > >> > > >> > Also - all genealogy publications I have purchased for researching > will > > be > >> > donated to my local library's genealogy dept. with the stipulation > if > > they > >> > already have to try to find another nearby library - such as a more > > major > >> > city, to > >> > accept the duplicates. > >> > > >> > On my maternal side I have many photographs from the 1800s as well > as > >> > family > >> > bibles from mid-1800s and was concerned about them. Fortunately, I > have > > a > >> > cousin who has a son very interested in family history and have > > stipulated > >> > for > >> > those items to be given to them. In fact, due to my age, I have > already > >> > begun > >> > giving them some of the original photographs and keeping the scanned > >> > copies. > >> > > >> > On my paternal side, there is no one to pass photographs on so they > >> > will > >> > be > >> > included with the family notebooks to be given to OGS. > >> > > >> > Personally, I prefer these options vs the LDS Church as more people > >> > will > >> > be > >> > able to access them at all times. I have had one problem with the > LDS > >> > Church > >> > in Wyoming that has documents and photographs that I am unable to > > access. > >> > I > >> > also prefer to keep everything as local as possible. > >> > > >> > OHS [Ohio Historical Society] in Columbus has been cut back so > > drastically > >> > due to budgets, they do not seem to be able to maintain material > well > > any > >> > more > >> > but that is also another option. At least you would know the > >> > information > >> > would > >> > be preserved. > >> > > >> > I hope this gives you some ideas. > >> > Shirley > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 2/11/2008 3:19:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >> > buckshot@ohiolink.net writes: > >> > > >> > Also, where do you put this information for safe keeping? I have no > >> > children, two nephews and a niece, none with the Tucker name, and I > am > > not > >> > sure how interested they will be in preserving it. > >> > > >> > I have heard that you can turn it in to the LDS Church, but I have > >> > never > >> > heard how to do this and I have NOT been able to get back > information > > that > >> > I > >> > know was compiled on the Mitchell side of the family mentioned above > by > > a > >> > cousin of mine who did that work. I can't seem to find anyone who > will > >> > tell > >> > me how to get a copy of that information back to our branch of the > > family, > >> > so I am hesitant to deposit any information there. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > >> > Grammy > >> > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > >> > tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------- > >> > Never miss a thing. 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How may I ask would Ancestry be able to continue if they did not charge for subscriptions? They have to pay employees, pay for obtaining information, pay for internet space, and just like any other company, pay all taxes, etc., covering employees, buildings, etc. I, for one, have used Ancestry for almost ten years and have had no problems. I have a few family trees posted and have corrected with no problems. I have asked for assistance from their tech service and received help with no problems. I think it boils down to a person's choice - either join or not. No one is forced to pay a membership fee. BTW - my trees are still on Rootsweb as well as Ancestry. They have also had my credit card number for almost ten years and I always get an advanced notification that they will automatically renew my subscription unless I contact them. For every person that has had a problem, there are many more that have had none. Just like dealing with any other company. As far as finding information on the internet through societies, libraries, et al - it takes volunteers. So ask yourself when was the last time you walked a cemetery and transcribed it. Or gone to a court house and looked up birth, marriages, and deaths and transcribed them and offered to a library or genealogical society. Or even offered yourself as a volunteer look-up on any publications you have or looking up items at your local facilities for people who cannot get to your area. Now can we please get back to what this site is all about? Sharing information and helping each other. Shirley Shirley **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

Dear Miami County, OH List Group: Tribalpages is a great place to post your genealogy to make it accessible to anyone wishing to see your family tree. I have used the paid version of it for about 3 years and I've been very happy with its service. Its free version is worth checking out also; however, it has banners on the pages which may or may not bother you. Happy hunting for all your family treasures, Pamela WELLS nee ROBERSON Trinity, FL via Dayton, OH ROBERSON ~ WELLS Family Website: http://www.wellsp.tribalpages.com FamilyGeno@gmail.com Pamela WELLS nee ROBERSON http://wellsp.tribalpages.com On Feb 13, 2008 7:55 AM, Sharon Specht <mudd2sunflower@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm glad I asked for opinions on ancestry.com. I have learned a lot. For one thing, I had never heard of Tribal Pages, but now will check it out. > About changing your e-mail address - can't you continue to use your old one just as your site identity? What I mean is - when I go to my mother's house and log in to my ancestry or similar accounts, I just type in my information and it doesn't matter that it is on someone elses' computer... > Sharon > > > >

If your tree was created on ancestry, you should be able to notify them that you're changing your e-mail address and find out how to change it on your account. The trees I had the problem with were created on rootsweb World Connect about 10 years ago so it may not be an issue on ancestry if you have a subscription with them . I would never give up the opportunity to have high speed internet over dial up just to be able to get into an online tree. A new tree can always be created. I would rather put mine on tribalpages.com (free) where I have full control over my website than on ancestry anyway plus you get so much more on your website than anywhere else. I'd never Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary & Herman Kiser" <marypete4284@msn.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > Boy am I ever glad I read this latest email. I was/am in the process of > changing my email address due to going high speed. Now I read that I > won't be able to access my trees on ancestry. Now I don't know what to > do. > > I have went out to the LDS website. How are you supposed to know WHICH > information to order in on an ancestor? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com> > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:01 AM > Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Genealogy research sites. (Debbie Carder) > 2. Re: Ancestry charges for almost everything (Will) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:08:42 -0500 > From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Message-ID: > <02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie<mailto:02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie>> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change > your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit > and > correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But > for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the > best. > When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't > documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I > had > a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in > to > correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and > their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. > I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information > out > of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want > to > mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the > person > or put a post em with the correction. > My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, > then > put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great > features > and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone > looking > at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, > although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess > my > site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely > nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or > change > your information anytime. You are in complete control. > If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look > below my name for mine. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com<mailto:jkh1952@yahoo.com>> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one > of > > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I > support > > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or > museum. > > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a > PAF > > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this > PAF > > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly > to > > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers > staff > > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy > was > > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in > genealogy > > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > > that the LDS websites can seem like a > > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own > information. I > > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to > make > > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly > contact > > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can > only > > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide > audience > > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. > Its > > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com<mailto:londonjaws@modempool.com>> > wrote: This is very true. My > > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > > only > > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank > you > > and you need a subscription.. > > June > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > >> News to me.... > >> > >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > >> housed? > >> > >> Linda > >> in Costa Rica > >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> Monroe County, NY History > >> > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> > >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: > >> > >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for > >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > >> changes made > >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the > >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed > >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten > >> me angry > >> with them. > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy > >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > > now. > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:49:06 -0800 > From: "Will" <willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com>> > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Message-ID: > <0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051<mailto:0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051>> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Not all of them are still in Roots, Some of the ones I seen there in > Roots of my > families are gone since Ancestry got into it. THey told those who > wanted to > remove their info to do it. Otherwise it would als0 be Ancestry's. > willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees > are > > still on rootsweb free. > > Debbie Carder Mayes > > > > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > > > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > > > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr>> > > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > >> News to me.... > >> > >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > housed? > >> > >> Linda > >> in Costa Rica > >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> Monroe County, NY History > >> > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> > >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: > >> > >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space > for > >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > >> changes made > >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own > the > >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed > >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten > >> me angry > >> with them. > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy > >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to > OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com>. > > To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to > OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com>. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > ************************************** > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Boy am I ever glad I read this latest email. I was/am in the process of changing my email address due to going high speed. Now I read that I won't be able to access my trees on ancestry. Now I don't know what to do. I have went out to the LDS website. How are you supposed to know WHICH information to order in on an ancestor? ----- Original Message ----- From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Genealogy research sites. (Debbie Carder) 2. Re: Ancestry charges for almost everything (Will) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:08:42 -0500 From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie<mailto:02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit and correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the best. When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I had a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in to correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information out of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want to mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the person or put a post em with the correction. My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, then put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great features and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone looking at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess my site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or change your information anytime. You are in complete control. If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look below my name for mine. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com<mailto:jkh1952@yahoo.com>> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one of > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I support > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or museum. > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a PAF > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this PAF > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly to > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers staff > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy was > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in genealogy > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > that the LDS websites can seem like a > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own information. I > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to make > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly contact > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can only > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide audience > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. Its > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com<mailto:londonjaws@modempool.com>> wrote: This is very true. My > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > only > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank you > and you need a subscription.. > June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information >> housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:49:06 -0800 From: "Will" <willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051<mailto:0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Not all of them are still in Roots, Some of the ones I seen there in Roots of my families are gone since Ancestry got into it. THey told those who wanted to remove their info to do it. Otherwise it would als0 be Ancestry's. willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees are > still on rootsweb free. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr>> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 **************************************

I'm glad I asked for opinions on ancestry.com. I have learned a lot. For one thing, I had never heard of Tribal Pages, but now will check it out. About changing your e-mail address - can't you continue to use your old one just as your site identity? What I mean is - when I go to my mother's house and log in to my ancestry or similar accounts, I just type in my information and it doesn't matter that it is on someone elses' computer... Sharon --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit and correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the best. When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I had a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in to correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information out of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want to mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the person or put a post em with the correction. My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, then put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great features and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone looking at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess my site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or change your information anytime. You are in complete control. If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look below my name for mine. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one of > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I support > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or museum. > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a PAF > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this PAF > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly to > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers staff > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy was > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in genealogy > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > that the LDS websites can seem like a > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own information. I > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to make > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly contact > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can only > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide audience > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. Its > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > only > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank you > and you need a subscription.. > June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information >> housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. 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