Sharon... What an interesting experience!!! I am at a loss as to what happened. Try again, because the site is so worth it. It is loaded with death certificates 1908-1953. See if this works: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html. You use your email to get into the program (once you have registered) and there are some great databases as well as the above Ohio stuff. Good luck, and keep me posted. De Hill -----Original Message----- From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Specht Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:36 PM To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHMIAMI] ? about familysearch site I clicked on your link to the family search site, and tried to register, but all i got was a big klonk out of the computer. You know -the sound it makes that sounds like someone hitting you on the head and saying "you big dummy!" What am I doing wrong? --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, When you want to enter a category that isn't included, you click on custom event. Then you can add whatever you want, like date of first communion, name change, whatever. I have the same question about what to do about different spellings of a surname. For example, a James Forsythe who had a son whos' name is usually spelled Forsyth isn't acceptable to the ancestry program. What I sometimes do is use the other spelling as one of the middle names... Sharon Mary & Herman Kiser <marypete4284@msn.com> wrote: I don't know Sharon. It wasn't until I read the previous email that got me to thinking. I do know one thing for sure. About six months ago I made a slight change to the "title" of my family tree on ancestry. Well my thinking was that it would change the ALL old to the new listing. Well it didn't. I even called ancestry about it. I was told they have people that have changed their family tree name several times and its like a new one each time along with all the old ones. Ancestry does have some holes. On the listing there is no place for communion. Names changes are hard to list. I have a nephew born with one name, his father wouldn't pay child support so when his mother remarried and his new stepfather adopted him for another name change. Years later because his father/stepfather was very very mean and brutal, my nephew changed his name again when he joined the Navy to a variation of his grandfather. I know, I know its very screwed up. Also I am working on my husbands family tree. His grandfather didn't get along with his wife's parents. She died in 1915 and he left his two children with their grandparents/in laws. He went to Pennsylvania and started a new family. We know that he died sometime in the 1960's. And no he did not change his name. Any suggestions on how to find him? I have scoured Ancestry but come up empty handed. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

My daughter would like to become a member of ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>. Her email address is: dprtree@btinternet.com<mailto:dprtree@btinternet.com>

Just tell her to send an email to OHMIAMI-L-request@rootsweb.com for individual messages or OHMIAMI-D-request@rootsweb.com for digest mode with the word subscribe in both the subject and body of the message. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary & Herman Kiser To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 14 February, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: [OHMIAMI] join My daughter would like to become a member of ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>. Her email address is: dprtree@btinternet.com<mailto:dprtree@btinternet.com> tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Recently I had a discussion thread with Ancestry about uploading a revised gedcom file asking them if it would just replace what was there - this is in the Family Tree Section - NOT the Ancestry World Trees. They told me there was no provision to overwrite the online tree and the only thing you could do is to delete the tree and upload a new one. This in my view is rather archaic. Even WorldConnect allows for overwriting the gedcom and their system is far older. So, I am not surprised that the name change had no effect and resulted in two trees being online. One thing I would like to say is that it is true that the people at Ancestry do listen when enough people complain about a feature. So it is in our best interests to tell them what does not work well. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary & Herman Kiser To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 February, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 48 I don't know Sharon. It wasn't until I read the previous email that got me to thinking. I do know one thing for sure. About six months ago I made a slight change to the "title" of my family tree on ancestry. Well my thinking was that it would change the ALL old to the new listing. Well it didn't. I even called ancestry about it. I was told they have people that have changed their family tree name several times and its like a new one each time along with all the old ones.

Hello Darraugh I am Suz (Susan Cruse) in Tipp City, Ohio. I am so very sorry about your involvement with that tornado! What is needed there? How is the college managing? Your offer to ancestry is lovely. I was one of the $$challenged who dosen't join with it! But, about your needs down there. How is your home and family doing?? Prayers for Ya Girl. My best wishes to you. Suz Darraugh <darasue@charter.net> wrote: I am one of those who have had a subscription to Ancestry.com since 1998 and hope I can continue to maintain a subscription. I am also one of those who have had very little problems with Ancestry, particularly on the telephone. But as another list-subscriber previously mentioned, some have successful relationships and others don't. But this is not my main reason for my little blurb here. On occasion, an individual has emailed me about a surname that we may have in common and stated they have run into the infamous brick wall. Even though there is no match in the common surname, I will either go to Ancestry.com and look up the individual's name they are inquiring about, or will email the individual asking if they have a subscription to Ancestry and if not, I would be more than willing to see what I could find on the name of inquiry. Of course, I get back to the person to let them know whether I found information or not. Having said this and keeping in mind what another list subscriber mentioned of limited income resources, I am willing to do a search on Ancestry's website for the individual of whom the list subscriber is seeking. However, I do have limited time during certain months of the year. I happen to be a 40-something mother of three kids and a full-time college student at Union University in Jackson, TN. As many of you may have heard over the past two weeks, this is the same university that was hit by the F-4 tornado. We are suppose to be resuming on February 20th - hence, the little bit of free time I now have. Otherwise, during the college semesters (Sept thru Dec and Feb thru May) are off limits for feeding my genealogy addiction. If a list subscriber would like me to do a search on Ancestry.com for a particular individual, please be sure to email me directly, so as to free up this list of unrelated Miami County inquiries. Please put "Ancestry.com Search" in the subject line; include specifics you have about the individual and what specifically you are looking for; and provide me with plenty of patience. Again, email me directly and NOT to the OHMIAMI email list. Darraugh Nolan Tennessee tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I only have 2 MARKERs. Bonita Sue Marker, no dates, married Rpger A Bashore, and Sarah Ann Marker Feb. 1843 Darke county, died 1917, Darke county, married Jacob Lyme(March 1834Lancaster Co. PA-1918Darke Co. 6 children. Patrick McGarry <hawkwind275@yahoo.com> wrote: Does anybody search the Marker family and has info? Thanks. Intermarried my family quite a few times and trying to work on 1 line. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still don't want to quit..... www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton Pam Holeton Piqua,Ohio Miami County www.findagrave.com currently working on Forest Hill cemetery and several surrounding cemeteries. www.myspace.com/pamelaholeton --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Hey, Guys. Could I make a request? When you hit the reply button- please edit out what is not important from the original message and leave what you are referring to in the post as a quote or some other kind of highlight. Repeating all the emails over and over again makes it hard to find the new postings and uses lots more space on the server. For those of us who get these lists in Digest Mode, it is particularly difficult. This is a reply to ONE digest that contained only TWO new messages. See the <<----- below. But just follow on down the page and look at what was in that total digest message. These things get reprinted over and over not only in our email but in the archives. And I got 17 digest messages like this from this list just today.... Best regards, Dee Dee King ----- Original Message ----- From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:44:41 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 47 Today's Topics: 1. Re: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 (Mary & Herman Kiser) <<------------------ 2. Re: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 (Debbie Carder) <<------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:15:00 -0500 From: "Mary & Herman Kiser" <marypete4284@msn.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV1141765CD84D1301E8BA65CC240@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Boy am I ever glad I read this latest email. I was/am in the process of changing my email address due to going high speed. Now I read that I won't be able to access my trees on ancestry. Now I don't know what to do. I have went out to the LDS website. How are you supposed to know WHICH information to order in on an ancestor? ----- Original Message ----- From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Genealogy research sites. (Debbie Carder) 2. Re: Ancestry charges for almost everything (Will) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:08:42 -0500 From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie<mailto:02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit and correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the best. When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I had a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in to correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information out of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want to mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the person or put a post em with the correction. My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, then put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great features and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone looking at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess my site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or change your information anytime. You are in complete control. If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look below my name for mine. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com<mailto:jkh1952@yahoo.com>> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one of > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I support > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or museum. > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a PAF > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this PAF > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly to > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers staff > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy was > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in genealogy > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > that the LDS websites can seem like a > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own information. I > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to make > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly contact > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can only > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide audience > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. Its > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com<mailto:londonjaws@modempool.com>> wrote: This is very true. My > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > only > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank you > and you need a subscription.. > June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information >> housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:49:06 -0800 From: "Will" <willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051<mailto:0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Not all of them are still in Roots, Some of the ones I seen there in Roots of my families are gone since Ancestry got into it. THey told those who wanted to remove their info to do it. Otherwise it would als0 be Ancestry's. willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees are > still on rootsweb free. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr>> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> News to me.... >> >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information housed? >> >> Linda >> in Costa Rica >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> Monroe County, NY History >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: >> >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >> changes made >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >> >> >> >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten >> me angry >> with them. >> >> >> >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 ************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:43:48 -0500 From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <005601c86e3e$14398200$6501a8c0@Debbie> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If your tree was created on ancestry, you should be able to notify them that you're changing your e-mail address and find out how to change it on your account. The trees I had the problem with were created on rootsweb World Connect about 10 years ago so it may not be an issue on ancestry if you have a subscription with them . I would never give up the opportunity to have high speed internet over dial up just to be able to get into an online tree. A new tree can always be created. I would rather put mine on tribalpages.com (free) where I have full control over my website than on ancestry anyway plus you get so much more on your website than anywhere else. I'd never Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary & Herman Kiser" <marypete4284@msn.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > Boy am I ever glad I read this latest email. I was/am in the process of > changing my email address due to going high speed. Now I read that I > won't be able to access my trees on ancestry. Now I don't know what to > do. > > I have went out to the LDS website. How are you supposed to know WHICH > information to order in on an ancestor? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com> > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:01 AM > Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Genealogy research sites. (Debbie Carder) > 2. Re: Ancestry charges for almost everything (Will) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:08:42 -0500 > From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Message-ID: > <02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie<mailto:02f801c86e06$e26295f0$6501a8c0@Debbie>> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you change > your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit > and > correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. But > for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the > best. > When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't > documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I > had > a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in > to > correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and > their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. > I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information > out > of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want > to > mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the > person > or put a post em with the correction. > My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, > then > put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great > features > and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone > looking > at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from you, > although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess > my > site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an extremely > nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or > change > your information anytime. You are in complete control. > If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, look > below my name for mine. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com<mailto:jkh1952@yahoo.com>> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to one > of > > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I > support > > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or > museum. > > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at > > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a > PAF > > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this > PAF > > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly > to > > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers > staff > > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy > was > > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in > genealogy > > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I agree > > that the LDS websites can seem like a > > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on > > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all of > > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any information > > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own > information. I > > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to > make > > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly > contact > > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can > only > > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide > audience > > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. > Its > > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com<mailto:londonjaws@modempool.com>> > wrote: This is very true. My > > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > > only > > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank > you > > and you need a subscription.. > > June > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > >> News to me.... > >> > >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > >> housed? > >> > >> Linda > >> in Costa Rica > >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> Monroe County, NY History > >> > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> > >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: > >> > >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for > >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > >> changes made > >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the > >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed > >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten > >> me angry > >> with them. > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy > >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > it > > now. > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:49:06 -0800 > From: "Will" <willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com>> > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Message-ID: > <0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051<mailto:0c7501c86e14$e9f72a70$5f30f204@D7V69051>> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Not all of them are still in Roots, Some of the ones I seen there in > Roots of my > families are gone since Ancestry got into it. THey told those who > wanted to > remove their info to do it. Otherwise it would als0 be Ancestry's. > willma@sprynet.com<mailto:willma@sprynet.com> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debbie Carder" <dcarder2@woh.rr.com<mailto:dcarder2@woh.rr.com>> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees > are > > still on rootsweb free. > > Debbie Carder Mayes > > > > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html<http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > > > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > > > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102<http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr>> > > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > >> News to me.... > >> > >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > housed? > >> > >> Linda > >> in Costa Rica > >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> Monroe County, NY History > >> > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com<mailto:Gwamma38@aol.com> > >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > >> > >> > >> > >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> writes: > >> > >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space > for > >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > >> changes made > >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own > the > >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed > >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten > >> me angry > >> with them. > >> > >> > >> > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy > >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. > >> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565<http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565>) > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to > OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com>. > > To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to > OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com>. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > ************************************** > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 47 **************************************

Does anybody search the Marker family and has info? Thanks. Intermarried my family quite a few times and trying to work on 1 line. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

If someone has no problem with giving their hard work to a company and letting them make money off of it, and having to maybe pay to retrieve your own information if you have a crash, then all the more power to you. Most people find it objectionable and arrogant. That's the only point I'm trying to make... Now .. back to the research. > From: lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:59:12 -0600> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> > That is an excellent point, Debbie. We can all search at RootsWeb for free and it is a part of Ancestry.com. What's more, they host this and all other mailing lists and offer free websites - the GenWeb sites, FreePages. So even though they charge for their main website, they also give back a lot to the genealogical community.> > Linda> in Costa Rica> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> Monroe County, NY History> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 12 February, 2008 11:30 PM> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> > > They purchased rootsweb and those trees are on ancestry but those trees are > still on rootsweb free.> Debbie Carder Mayes> > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html> > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102> > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102> > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr>> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> > > > News to me....> >> > What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information housed?> >> > Linda> > in Costa Rica> > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> > Monroe County, NY History> > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gwamma38@aol.com> > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM> > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> >> >> >> > In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,> > lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes:> >> > >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for> > anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > > changes made> > are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the> > information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it.> >> >> >> > Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have absorbed> > sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has gotten > > me angry> > with them.> >> >> >> > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy> > Awards. Go to AOL Music.> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)> > tdn-net.com/genealogy> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > tdn-net.com/genealogy> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> tdn-net.com/genealogy> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am one of those who have had a subscription to Ancestry.com since 1998 and hope I can continue to maintain a subscription. I am also one of those who have had very little problems with Ancestry, particularly on the telephone. But as another list-subscriber previously mentioned, some have successful relationships and others don't. But this is not my main reason for my little blurb here. On occasion, an individual has emailed me about a surname that we may have in common and stated they have run into the infamous brick wall. Even though there is no match in the common surname, I will either go to Ancestry.com and look up the individual's name they are inquiring about, or will email the individual asking if they have a subscription to Ancestry and if not, I would be more than willing to see what I could find on the name of inquiry. Of course, I get back to the person to let them know whether I found information or not. Having said this and keeping in mind what another list subscriber mentioned of limited income resources, I am willing to do a search on Ancestry's website for the individual of whom the list subscriber is seeking. However, I do have limited time during certain months of the year. I happen to be a 40-something mother of three kids and a full-time college student at Union University in Jackson, TN. As many of you may have heard over the past two weeks, this is the same university that was hit by the F-4 tornado. We are suppose to be resuming on February 20th - hence, the little bit of free time I now have. Otherwise, during the college semesters (Sept thru Dec and Feb thru May) are off limits for feeding my genealogy addiction. If a list subscriber would like me to do a search on Ancestry.com for a particular individual, please be sure to email me directly, so as to free up this list of unrelated Miami County inquiries. Please put "Ancestry.com Search" in the subject line; include specifics you have about the individual and what specifically you are looking for; and provide me with plenty of patience. Again, email me directly and NOT to the OHMIAMI email list. Darraugh Nolan Tennessee

I clicked on your link to the family search site, and tried to register, but all i got was a big klonk out of the computer. You know -the sound it makes that sounds like someone hitting you on the head and saying "you big dummy!" What am I doing wrong? --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

I have no problem with ancestry or any other business charging for THEIR product or information. However, the problem that I DO have is that YOUR product (in this case compiled information, sometimes put together at great cost and time) is just that .... YOURS .. It is something YOU did, it is not THEIRS and in the case of your family history they did NOTHING to create that family tree. Yet, they talk people into putting it online on THEIR site, they pay you and give you NOTHING for that family tree (except ... big deal .. a place to put it online ... something you can do elsewhere without any hostage holding). Then, they turn around and charge YOU and anyone else who wants to see YOUR information money which they keep in THEIR pocket. Just like the person who wrote in relating how a computer crash wiped out their home database, which they had previously submitted to ancestry. The person asked for the simple help or courtesy of allowing them to retrieve a copy of their OWN information and was told "Sorry, not unless you pay for your own information by subscribing." Ancestry gives you NOTHING in return for anything you give them .... no free access to anything ... not even the Social Security Death Index is free at ancestry. That is why ancestry is the LAST place ... if even that ... that I would post my family tree on. With search engines, it is easy to find a family tree you create and put online and there are too many other places that dont engage in unfriendly customer relations. In my humble opinion, ancestry may, indeed, have a wealth of information, but they have some of the most arrogant and predatory practices and take advantage of others in an effort to line their own pockets. They use OUR information to make money for themselves when it comes to family trees. I will have no part in helping them make money for themselves with my and my cousin's efforts. If they want to sell and make money with their OWN efforts, that is just fine .... that's free market economy. Compile information, buy, catalog and put online documents, etc But taking and demanding YOUR money for YOUR efforts and giving you nothing in return, not even appreciation, is not free market economy ... it has another name. Please understand that I DO use ancestry. I use it for free in libraries that have chosen to pay for a subscription. I have found great information on it. My objections to ancestry come from practices occuring with information such as family trees or gedcoms submitted by other people for which ancestry pays nothing to acquire and then charging others for it.... including the people who submitted it. > From: Edythe98@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:43:27 -0500> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything> > How may I ask would Ancestry be able to continue if they did not charge for > subscriptions? They have to pay employees, pay for obtaining information, pay > for internet space, and just like any other company, pay all taxes, etc., > covering employees, buildings, etc.> > I, for one, have used Ancestry for almost ten years and have had no problems. > I have a few family trees posted and have corrected with no problems. I > have asked for assistance from their tech service and received help with no > problems.> > I think it boils down to a person's choice - either join or not. No one is > forced to pay a membership fee. BTW - my trees are still on Rootsweb as well > as Ancestry. They have also had my credit card number for almost ten years and > I always get an advanced notification that they will automatically renew my > subscription unless I contact them.> > For every person that has had a problem, there are many more that have had > none. Just like dealing with any other company.> > As far as finding information on the internet through societies, libraries, > et al - it takes volunteers. So ask yourself when was the last time you walked > a cemetery and transcribed it. Or gone to a court house and looked up birth, > marriages, and deaths and transcribed them and offered to a library or > genealogical society. Or even offered yourself as a volunteer look-up on any > publications you have or looking up items at your local facilities for people who > cannot get to your area.> > Now can we please get back to what this site is all about? Sharing > information and helping each other.> > Shirley> > Shirley> > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)> tdn-net.com/genealogy> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Debbie, That's really too bad. Obviously they didn't foresee that people often change their email addresses. :-) For the benefit of all of you who may be worried, I just signed into my gedcom at RootsWeb WorldConnect with my user code and password without any problems. I did not need to use my email address. I signed in two ways, both with the older upload specifications and the newer version and was able to access everything including downloading a copy of my gedcom to my hard drive (I need to do some updating!), without any problems. Also, I found that in the registration area of RootsWeb, you can add other email addresses that you have used with them and have everything linked - if you want to. It is unfortunate what happened to Debbie but I still urge all of you to upload at WorldConnect - I cannot tell you the number of people who have found me there. Between having your gedcom at RootsWeb and also that they include it at Ancestry, the exposure you get is VAST. This OF COURSE does not mean that you can't submit your gedcom somewhere else or make use of the Tribal pages that Debbie was telling us about. You can do that in addition to uploading your gedcom to WorldConnect and INCREASE your chances of having someone find you. Just ALWAYS remember to keep your email addresses current anywhere you submit your information and keep your usernames and passwords in a safe place! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Carder To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 February, 2008 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Fw: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 Ancestry does, but rootsweb didn't 10 years ago. Your username and password were linked to your e-mail address and you had to have all three match. I still have the username and password. They don't work and rootsweb told me that they won't work without that e-mail address being active. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <OHMIAMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Fw: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > Ancestry uses a username and password, you do not need a specific email > address to sign in. > > For LDS, go to their website and click on the link for the catalog. Once > there, you have several options for searching. I find the best to be by > place meaning the town where your ancestors were for the records you want. > Add the country or state after the town name and enter and then you will > find a listing of what is available for that area. Each one is clickable. > When you find the one you are interested in - say Catholic Church records > for the town of your choice, click on that listing. In the upper right > hand corner on the information page for that roll of film there is a > button to click which is called "film notes" or similar. Click on that > and you will be given the pertinent film numbers. There could be more > than one. Each has a description of what years and parishes the film > covers. > > Hope this helps! > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary & Herman Kiser > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 13 February, 2008 6:15 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > > > Boy am I ever glad I read this latest email. I was/am in the process of > changing my email address due to going high speed. Now I read that I > won't be able to access my trees on ancestry. Now I don't know what to > do. > > I have went out to the LDS website. How are you supposed to know WHICH > information to order in on an ancestor? > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ancestry does, but rootsweb didn't 10 years ago. Your username and password were linked to your e-mail address and you had to have all three match. I still have the username and password. They don't work and rootsweb told me that they won't work without that e-mail address being active. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <OHMIAMI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Fw: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > Ancestry uses a username and password, you do not need a specific email > address to sign in. > > For LDS, go to their website and click on the link for the catalog. Once > there, you have several options for searching. I find the best to be by > place meaning the town where your ancestors were for the records you want. > Add the country or state after the town name and enter and then you will > find a listing of what is available for that area. Each one is clickable. > When you find the one you are interested in - say Catholic Church records > for the town of your choice, click on that listing. In the upper right > hand corner on the information page for that roll of film there is a > button to click which is called "film notes" or similar. Click on that > and you will be given the pertinent film numbers. There could be more > than one. Each has a description of what years and parishes the film > covers. > > Hope this helps! > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary & Herman Kiser > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 13 February, 2008 6:15 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > > > Boy am I ever glad I read this latest email. I was/am in the process of > changing my email address due to going high speed. Now I read that I > won't be able to access my trees on ancestry. Now I don't know what to > do. > > I have went out to the LDS website. How are you supposed to know WHICH > information to order in on an ancestor? > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They don't deny that it's my tree, only not that there's no way to get into it. I'm not that concerned. As I said, I contact anyone I find who is using my incorrect info and they are usually grateful and I have found a new cousin in the process. I also have post 'ems on my pages stating what is incorrect and if I find that info in anyone else's tree, I contact them and put a post 'em on their pages for anyone else who goes there and include my e-mail address if anyone wants to contact me about it. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > Debbie, have you tried contacting the helpdesk at RootsWeb (by email)? > They are very helpful there. If you can provide enough information to > them to prove the tree(s) is/are yours, there should be some way they > could help you. If I were you I would give it another try... what do you > have to lose? > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Debbie Carder > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Sent: 13 February, 2008 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > Apparently, you did at one time as I wrote them and phoned them and was > told > both times that my user code and password was invalid because it did not > match the e-mail address those were assigned to and that it could not be > changed. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > > Hi Debbie, > > > > You do not need an email address to sign in and edit your WorldConnect > > gedcom at RootsWeb. All you need is your user code or ID that you > chose > > when you first uploaded your gedcom and your password which you also > > chose. The email address is changed in the edit process. Just choose > > advance options. > > > > If you lost or misplaced your user code and password, then I would > expect > > that the people and RootsWeb would not be able to help you since they > do > > not have that information, only the submitter does. > > > > Bottom line, when you first upload your gedcom to WorldConnect, write > down > > your user code and password in a SAFE place. I keep mine in my agenda. > > > > I hope this is of some help and that you are able to update your > > incomplete information. > > > > Linda > > in Costa Rica > > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > Monroe County, NY History > > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Debbie Carder > > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > > Sent: 13 February, 2008 12:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > > > > I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you > change > > your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit > > and > > correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. > But > > for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the > > best. > > When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't > > documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that > I > > had > > a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get > in > > to > > correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation > and > > their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. > > I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their > information > > out > > of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't > want > > to > > mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the > > person > > or put a post em with the correction. > > My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, > > then > > put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great > > features > > and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone > > looking > > at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from > you, > > although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to > assess > > my > > site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an > extremely > > nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or > > change > > your information anytime. You are in complete control. > > If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, > look > > below my name for mine. > > Debbie Carder Mayes > > > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com> > > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM > > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > > > > > > Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free > > > information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to > one > > of > > > these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I > > support > > > in my community or I go to a local historical society library or > > museum. > > > They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my > > > ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I > at > > > least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use > a > > PAF > > > file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this > > PAF > > > file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc > regularly > > to > > > protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers > > staff > > > alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on > genealogy > > was > > > done by these tireless people long before I became interested in > > genealogy > > > and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I > agree > > > that the LDS websites can seem like a > > > juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information > on > > > millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all > of > > > that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in > so > > > many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any > information > > > out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own > > information. I > > > know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to > > make > > > any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly > > contact > > > me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can > > only > > > make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide > > audience > > > who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an > individual. > > Its > > > no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne > > > > > > June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My > > > computer crashed a few years back and I lost my > > > genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they > said > > > only > > > with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank > > you > > > and you need a subscription.. > > > June > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" > > > > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > > > > > > > >> News to me.... > > >> > > >> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information > > >> housed? > > >> > > >> Linda > > >> in Costa Rica > > >> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > >> Monroe County, NY History > > >> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Gwamma38@aol.com > > >> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > > >> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > >> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: > > >> > > >> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space > for > > >> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only > > >> changes made > > >> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own > the > > >> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > > absorbed > > >> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > > gotten > > >> me angry > > >> with them. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > > Grammy > > >> Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > >> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) > > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> tdn-net.com/genealogy > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try > > it > > > now. > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been with ancestry since the beginning and agree with you. There wasn't near as much on it then and some of it was hard to use, just indexes, not records and there was only one basic search, not all the search options you have now. There was nothing compared to what they offer today and they have barely raised their prices since then so you are getting way more than you did in the beginning and more than you are going to get on any other website. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nolan Hill" <ghost2@fiber.net> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > To all who are reading the ongoing blurb about genealogy services: I > need to put in my 2cents worth. I have been involved with ancestry.com > since it's inception. NO, I do not work for them! I have watched them > grow to be what they are today. They are building databases to > accommodate more and more researchers. Yes, the yearly fee seems > overwhelming to one not having a library with the subscription, but it > is SO worth it. > > The History center in Troy, Ohio, is a wonderful resource center for > Miami County research, with the added bonus, as has been posted, of > Ancestry.com. There is another new site available for free, to all > researchers looking for Ohio deaths. The death certificates are online > for FREE...not even Ohio State can match that. Here is the website. > You must log in and get a password, and that takes about a day. It is > well worth it: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/. > > Let's put the issue to rest and get on with positive, helpful research. > De Hill > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Debbie Carder > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:09 PM > To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > I don't put my info on ancestry or rootsweb anymore because if you > change > your e-mail address or password, you can't get into your pages to edit > and > correct them. I learned that long before ancestry owned rootsweb. > But > for research, especially the censuses and newspapers, ancestry is the > best. > When I was a "newbie", I posted my genealogy on rootsweb and hadn't > documented all of it yet. Later, as I gained experience, I knew that I > had > a lot of errors in it and I had a new e-mail address and couldn't get in > to > correct my pages. I contacted rootsweb and told them the situation and > their attitude was "tough luck" and nothing has ever been done. > I can always tell when I look at others' pages who got their information > out > of my old tree and I cringe when I see the incorrect info. I don't want > to > mislead anyone but can't get it changed. When possible, I e-mail the > person > or put a post em with the correction. > My suggestion, though, is this. If you want to put your info online, > then > put it on tribalpages. Their websites are beautiful and have great > features > and are free and very simple to do and if you don't want just anyone > looking > at them, you can set them so that others have to get a password from > you, > although, I prefer that anyone researching my families be able to assess > my > site. The wonderful thing is, though, in addition to having an > extremely > nice website is that you can go in and edit, correct, add, delete, or > change > your information anytime. You are in complete control. > If you want to see a couple of tribalpages websites or get your own, > look > below my name for mine. > Debbie Carder Mayes > > http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 > > www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeanne hime" <jkh1952@yahoo.com> > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:32 AM > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Genealogy research sites. > > >> Hi, I use family search and ancestry.com. I have gotten alot of free >> information from these sites and others. I have never subscribed to > one of >> these sites. If I want more information I use the library that I > support >> in my community or I go to a local historical society library or > museum. >> They are very gracious and open to sharing. If I want to register my >> ancestors as a first family in that county, I join that society; I at >> least try to leave a small donation to support their efforts. I use a > PAF >> file to organize and manage my family information. I downloaded this > PAF >> file for free from familysearch. I back up my file on a disc regularly > to >> protect my work from any difficulties with my computer. Volunteers > staff >> alot of these local institutions. Alot of the information on genealogy > was >> done by these tireless people long before I became interested in > genealogy >> and I am sincerely grateful to them for preserving my heritage. I > agree >> that the LDS websites can seem like a >> juggernaut but I saw on a program on TV that they have information on >> millions of names. It must be very costly to gather and preserve all > of >> that information. To manage it and make it available to everyone in so > >> many ways seems like an impossible task. I have not put any > information >> out there yet but I will when I am more confident in my own > information. I >> know that I will be responsible for the content and I don't want to > make >> any mistakes. I know that people will look at my file and possibly > contact >> me with new information, possible corrections or questions. This can > only >> make my information more accurate and complete. With such a wide > audience >> who knows what connections I might make. Each of us is an individual. > Its >> no big deal, do it however it suits you. Just have fun. Jeanne >> >> June London <londonjaws@modempool.com> wrote: This is very true. My >> computer crashed a few years back and I lost my >> genealogy information. I tried to get them to give me it and they said > >> only >> with a subscription !! I said I gave it for free and they said thank > you >> and you need a subscription.. >> June >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Linda H. Gutierrez" >> >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >> >> >>> News to me.... >>> >>> What sites would those be and WHERE on Ancestry is the information >>> housed? >>> >>> Linda >>> in Costa Rica >>> Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy >>> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >>> Monroe County, NY History >>> http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Gwamma38@aol.com >>> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: 12 February, 2008 5:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 12-Feb-08 3:47:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >>> lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr writes: >>> >>> >Ancestry does not USE anyone's research. They offer server space for >>> anyone who wants to put it >there. They do nothing to it, the only >>> changes made >>> are those the contributor makes themselves. >The only one to own the >>> information is the contributor. Ancestry has no claim to it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ancestry DOES charge us to view our own research.....They have > absorbed >>> sites that were holding our info in a free site. That is what has > gotten >>> me angry >>> with them. >>> >>> >>> >>> **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the > Grammy >>> Awards. Go to AOL Music. >>> (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) >>> tdn-net.com/genealogy >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> tdn-net.com/genealogy >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it >> now. >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet, The collection that was at the Hayner Cultural Center for many years is now located at 100 W. Main St. in Troy. We have been there about 4 years and we have so much more room. We are very proud of our facility which has been provided to us by the Troy-Miami County Public Library. It is actually across the street from the Miami County Courthouse. The Troy Historical Society continues to volunteer their services as they have since inception of the history and genealogy library. We grew out of the space at the Hayner. The Hayner continues to provide culture for the area. Our hours are: Monday & Wednesday 10-8 Tuesday, Thursday & Friday 10-4 Saturday 9 - 1 By going to the website you can see a lot of what we have available http://tdn-net.com/genealogy/troy/troy-lib.htm We have 2 microfilm readers that print. We have 2 computers that the patrons can use. Ancestry is available for patrons. We have a room especially for the family histories that have been donated over the years. We now have the layouts of the cemeteries in Miami County. So if you know the section and lot # you can see it on the maps. I encourage all to come visit us. Thanks Barbara Besecker Asst. Archivist, Local History Library Webmaster www.tdn-net.com/genealogy Administrator OHMIAMI, WACKLER, BESECKER, LACHAT, ELSMAN, DEMOSS -----Original Message----- From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet McCrosky Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:24 AM To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Museum Question Are you still in Hayner House? If not - I read somewhere you had changed to another building - has Hayner House been closed? Janet tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are you still in Hayner House? If not - I read somewhere you had changed to another building - has Hayner House been closed? Janet

I do agree that they should always let you have access to your information and that you should have complete control over the ability to edit it. That's why I do not put mine on there anymore but use tribalpages, which offers you a great website of your own free. They also have paid ones without advertising but there's really not much advertising on the free ones. I have never been asked or had them try to talk me into putting it on there, though. All I have seen is that they promote it so that you know the service is available if you want to put it on there. I understand not everyone wants to or is able to have a subscription but I do know that the library addition doesn't have as many resources and records accessible. Debbie Carder Mayes http://allencogenealogysociety.homestead.com/Main.html www.tribalpages.com/tribes/deb6102 www.tribalpages.com/tribes/dac6102 www.rootsweb.com/~ohallen/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAY FRIESS" <rayfrijr@msn.com> To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost everything > > I have no problem with ancestry or any other business charging for THEIR > product or information. > However, the problem that I DO have is that YOUR product (in this case > compiled information, sometimes put together at great cost and time) is > just that .... YOURS .. It is something YOU did, it is not THEIRS and > in the case of your family history they did NOTHING to create that family > tree. > > Yet, they talk people into putting it online on THEIR site, they pay you > and give you NOTHING for that family tree (except ... big deal .. a place > to put it online ... something you can do elsewhere without any hostage > holding). Then, they turn around and charge YOU and anyone else who > wants to see YOUR information money which they keep in THEIR pocket. > > Just like the person who wrote in relating how a computer crash wiped out > their home database, which they had previously submitted to ancestry. > The person asked for the simple help or courtesy of allowing them to > retrieve a copy of their OWN information and was told "Sorry, not unless > you pay for your own information by subscribing." > > Ancestry gives you NOTHING in return for anything you give them .... no > free access to anything ... not even the Social Security Death Index is > free at ancestry. > > That is why ancestry is the LAST place ... if even that ... that I would > post my family tree on. With search engines, it is easy to find a family > tree you create and put online and there are too many other places that > dont engage in unfriendly customer relations. > > In my humble opinion, ancestry may, indeed, have a wealth of information, > but they have some of the most arrogant and predatory practices and take > advantage of others in an effort to line their own pockets. They use OUR > information to make money for themselves when it comes to family trees. I > will have no part in helping them make money for themselves with my and my > cousin's efforts. > If they want to sell and make money with their OWN efforts, that is just > fine .... that's free market economy. Compile information, buy, catalog > and put online documents, etc But taking and demanding YOUR money for > YOUR efforts and giving you nothing in return, not even appreciation, is > not free market economy ... it has another name. > > Please understand that I DO use ancestry. I use it for free in libraries > that have chosen to pay for a subscription. I have found great > information on it. My objections to ancestry come from practices occuring > with information such as family trees or gedcoms submitted by other people > for which ancestry pays nothing to acquire and then charging others for > it.... including the people who submitted it. > > >> From: Edythe98@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:43:27 -0500> To: >> ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Ancestry charges for almost >> everything> > How may I ask would Ancestry be able to continue if they >> did not charge for > subscriptions? They have to pay employees, pay for >> obtaining information, pay > for internet space, and just like any other >> company, pay all taxes, etc., > covering employees, buildings, etc.> > I, >> for one, have used Ancestry for almost ten years and have had no >> problems. > I have a few family trees posted and have corrected with no >> problems. I > have asked for assistance from their tech service and >> received help with no > problems.> > I think it boils down to a person's >> choice - either join or not. No one is > forced to pay a membership fee. >> BTW - my trees are still on Rootsweb as well > as Ancestry. They have >> also had my credit card number for almost ten years and > I always get an >> advanced notification that they will automatically renew my > ! > subscription unless I contact them.> > For every person that has had a > problem, there are many more that have had > none. Just like dealing with > any other company.> > As far as finding information on the internet > through societies, libraries, > et al - it takes volunteers. So ask > yourself when was the last time you walked > a cemetery and transcribed > it. Or gone to a court house and looked up birth, > marriages, and deaths > and transcribed them and offered to a library or > genealogical society. > Or even offered yourself as a volunteer look-up on any > publications you > have or looking up items at your local facilities for people who > cannot > get to your area.> > Now can we please get back to what this site is all > about? Sharing > information and helping each other.> > Shirley> > > Shirley> > > > **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet > at the Grammy > Awards. Go to AOL Music. > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)> > tdn-net.com/genealogy> --! > -----------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please se > nd an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message