There was a will recorded for a James Haworth of Newton Township. The will was written November 18, 1829 and probated May 17, 1830. In the will, James mentions his wife, Ann, along with the following children: Susanna, Phebe, Mary, Wade, Joseph, Sampson and Samuel. The will was written fourteen years before your James Wade was born, so obviously he can't be in the will. But at least based on the similarity of the names, I would think this family is a likely candidate to be connected to your James Wade Haworth. Glen

Hi Everybody, I am also researching the Haworth name. May I suggest you use the familysearch and rootsweb free web sites to see what is currently out there. The Haworth Society of America has info on rootsweb. My great-great grandfather George W. Wright was married to Elizabeth Haworth (1840-1918) and Alexander Wright was married to her sister Sarah. Sarah and Elizabeth's parents were, father John Haworth (1807-1878,S.Carolina) and Sarah Penny. John Haworth's father was James Wade Haworth (1775-1829) and Anna Emily Coppock. James and Anna had another son Joseph C. Haworth (1817-1834) married to Elizabeth Coate (1812). Joseph and Elizabeth were the parents of James Wade Haworth born in 1843. Go to rootsweb and type in Elizabeth Haworth and look at the Ahnentafel. This was a tight knit community. You will find the same names in families again and again. I believe these people were part of the Quaker movement from the Carolinas to Miami County, particularly Union Township. Some of my family moved into surrounding counties. I do not have complete records (i.e. census, etc.) for all of these connections. But what I don't have, I see repeated frequently on several websites. Being from Darke County, I am pretty comfortable with what I have so far. I am open to any corrections, suggestions or additions. I hope this helps. Jeanne Hime --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

You're going to get very tired of me but I checked my cd of Ohio marriages before 1850 and found the following in Miami County - Sarah Haworth m Elisha McCool May 28 1817, Samuel Haworth m Rosanan Jones Sept 1843, James Haworth m Elizabeth Clary Oct 7 1824, and Betsy Haworth m David Ellemon [or Eleman or any of several spellings ] May 4 1817 Sorry no record of Joseph but in 1820 there are both a James and a Sampson Haworth living in Newton and James has a passel of kids 12 to be exact In 1840 The only Hayworth's I could find were David and Thompson so I really have no answer for your question.......... Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <kellydiver@cinci.rr.com> To: <OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Seeking Haworth family info > Hello, > > I am looking for information about the ancestors of my great great > grandfather, > James Wade Haworth. All I know about him is that he was born in Miami Co., > OH, > in 1843, and married Joannah Wax (my uncle recorded her as "Joanna Loraine > Wachs" or "Julia Loraine Waches") in 1864 before moving to Independence, > MO. He also had a sister named Mary Catherine Haworth, who married a > McCord. I have all of the family info from the time James Wade and > Joannah moved to > Independence, but have not been able to trace James Wade's parentage. I > am suspecting that maybe he was a grandson of James Wade and Ann (Coppock) > Haworth, but can't find much about their children. There are vague > references to Coates and Coppock in some family papers, but no real clues. > > If anyone can help me with this line, I would greatly appreciate it. > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is also a Henry Haworth in Newton in 1850 age 29 m to Anna 29 children Lydia 8, Sampson 7, Mary 5, William 3, and Joseph 6 mo --- Henry might be Joseph's brother There is also a Samuel Haworth 25 , m Rosanna 26, children Sarah 6 and Elizabeth 4 and it a ppears Rosanna's mother is living with them first name Ann last name very hard to read.age 70 and a James Coppack age 26 is living next door to Samuel . That is a lot of guessing but maybe it is a start Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <kellydiver@cinci.rr.com> To: <OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Seeking Haworth family info > Hello, > > I am looking for information about the ancestors of my great great > grandfather, > James Wade Haworth. All I know about him is that he was born in Miami Co., > OH, > in 1843, and married Joannah Wax (my uncle recorded her as "Joanna Loraine > Wachs" or "Julia Loraine Waches") in 1864 before moving to Independence, > MO. He also had a sister named Mary Catherine Haworth, who married a > McCord. I have all of the family info from the time James Wade and > Joannah moved to > Independence, but have not been able to trace James Wade's parentage. I > am suspecting that maybe he was a grandson of James Wade and Ann (Coppock) > Haworth, but can't find much about their children. There are vague > references to Coates and Coppock in some family papers, but no real clues. > > If anyone can help me with this line, I would greatly appreciate it. > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

According to the 1850 census James lived in Newton , Miami co. see page 182 His father's name appears to be Joseph but it is very hard to read age 33 and Mother was Elizabeth age 36 Children Allen 13, Esther 11, Elizabeth 10, James 8, Mary J[?] 6, Sidney A. 3. There is also a Martha Haworth living with them no age given Also in the 1850 census pg 112 in Concord, Miami Co. there is a Joanne Wax - Parents Mathias age 42, Martha 33, children Saloma 11, Needy [?] 9, Joanna 6, John 4, and Charles 7 mo. Hope this helps Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <kellydiver@cinci.rr.com> To: <OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Seeking Haworth family info > Hello, > > I am looking for information about the ancestors of my great great > grandfather, > James Wade Haworth. All I know about him is that he was born in Miami Co., > OH, > in 1843, and married Joannah Wax (my uncle recorded her as "Joanna Loraine > Wachs" or "Julia Loraine Waches") in 1864 before moving to Independence, > MO. He also had a sister named Mary Catherine Haworth, who married a > McCord. I have all of the family info from the time James Wade and > Joannah moved to > Independence, but have not been able to trace James Wade's parentage. I > am suspecting that maybe he was a grandson of James Wade and Ann (Coppock) > Haworth, but can't find much about their children. There are vague > references to Coates and Coppock in some family papers, but no real clues. > > If anyone can help me with this line, I would greatly appreciate it. > > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I am looking for information about the ancestors of my great great grandfather, James Wade Haworth. All I know about him is that he was born in Miami Co., OH, in 1843, and married Joannah Wax (my uncle recorded her as "Joanna Loraine Wachs" or "Julia Loraine Waches") in 1864 before moving to Independence, MO. He also had a sister named Mary Catherine Haworth, who married a McCord. I have all of the family info from the time James Wade and Joannah moved to Independence, but have not been able to trace James Wade's parentage. I am suspecting that maybe he was a grandson of James Wade and Ann (Coppock) Haworth, but can't find much about their children. There are vague references to Coates and Coppock in some family papers, but no real clues. If anyone can help me with this line, I would greatly appreciate it.

At 01:41 PM 3/8/08 -0500, Jon wrote: > >Joe > >Thanks much for the info. That and the 1860 census pretty much finished this out on the Seas side of the family. Ok Jon, I will add one more step-back in time for you on the Seas side, namely the parents of your Jacob Seas 1819-1909. They were Christopher Seas 1764-1821 and Susannah (nee Brumbaugh) 1795-1889. After Christopher's death in 1821 his widow Susannah was married three more times: Andrew Warner; Jacob Warner; and Isaac Hoover. Here in Newberry Township of Miami County Ohio is a small uncared for family Graveyard called Brumbaugh Family Graveyard. My own research shows that one of the unmarked graves there-in is for Christopher Seas who died in 1821. Christopher's parents, by the way, were Emmanuel and Susan (Mueller) Seas. Other spellings for this surname were/are; Sease, Ceas, Seay, See, Cise, Siese, Sies, Seas, and Susz. ......................Joe

Lancy married Minerva Montorf (or Montrof). Minerva's first husband, Joseph Imboden, died during the civil war. On Mar 6, 2008, at 1:01 AM, ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fix and Davis (Debra Zarret) > 2. Re: Fix and Davis (jaynema) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:10:41 -0700 > From: Debra Zarret <zarret@dishmail.net> > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Fix and Davis > To: OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4A902A3E-D919-4FB1-AC57-0BAF7E33B33E@dishmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Looking for Fix and Davis family of Maria S Fix and Reed Davis. > Maria was born in Virginia in 1822 and Reed Davis was born in Ohio. > Maria S Fix married Reed Davis in Miami county in 1842. In 1850 > Maria and children, Lancy and Sophia, were living with Mary K > Bright. Maria married John Williamson in 1853. Maria died in 1899 > in Tipp City. Lancy died in Sidney in 1886. Don't know what > happened to Sophia. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:47:34 -0500 > From: "jaynema" <jaynema@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Fix and Davis > To: <ohmiami@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003001c87f1b$49022120$43b14847@jayne> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Do you know who Lancy married? Was it an Allen by chance? > Jayne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debra Zarret" <zarret@dishmail.net> > To: <OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:10 AM > Subject: [OHMIAMI] Fix and Davis > > >> Looking for Fix and Davis family of Maria S Fix and Reed Davis. >> Maria was born in Virginia in 1822 and Reed Davis was born in Ohio. >> Maria S Fix married Reed Davis in Miami county in 1842. In 1850 >> Maria and children, Lancy and Sophia, were living with Mary K >> Bright. Maria married John Williamson in 1853. Maria died in 1899 >> in Tipp City. Lancy died in Sidney in 1886. Don't know what >> happened to Sophia. >> tdn-net.com/genealogy >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to > OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to > OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 70 > **************************************

Do you know who Lancy married? Was it an Allen by chance? Jayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Zarret" <zarret@dishmail.net> To: <OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] Fix and Davis > Looking for Fix and Davis family of Maria S Fix and Reed Davis. > Maria was born in Virginia in 1822 and Reed Davis was born in Ohio. > Maria S Fix married Reed Davis in Miami county in 1842. In 1850 > Maria and children, Lancy and Sophia, were living with Mary K > Bright. Maria married John Williamson in 1853. Maria died in 1899 > in Tipp City. Lancy died in Sidney in 1886. Don't know what > happened to Sophia. > tdn-net.com/genealogy > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking for Fix and Davis family of Maria S Fix and Reed Davis. Maria was born in Virginia in 1822 and Reed Davis was born in Ohio. Maria S Fix married Reed Davis in Miami county in 1842. In 1850 Maria and children, Lancy and Sophia, were living with Mary K Bright. Maria married John Williamson in 1853. Maria died in 1899 in Tipp City. Lancy died in Sidney in 1886. Don't know what happened to Sophia.

At first I saw this and thought I did not know the connection, but relooked when I did see Elton Miller listed, as he wrote the book on the Peter Miller family that so far is not directly connected to Johann Mueller's descendants. Dale's mother, Clara Miller does descend (proof of was on Eric Davis's Miller site, but I cannot find it right now) from Johann Mueller: From Troy Daily News: home : obituaries : obituaries March 04, 2008 --------------------------------- 3/3/2008 11:28:00 AM Email this article • Print this article Dale E. Detrick GREENVILLE - Dale E. Detrick, 86, formerly of Tipp City, mot recently of the Brethren Retirement Community in Greenville, passed away Saturday, March 1, 2008, at Wayne Hospital following a brief illness. He was born April 4, 1921, in Bradford, to John Abraham and Clara (Miller) Detrick. Dale was a World War II veteran where he was an Army medic and was awarded the Bronze Star. He retired from General Motors Corp., Dayton. He was preceded in death by his parents; his wife, Glendora E. Detrick; son, Stephen Allen Detrick; sister, Beulah Snyder; and brothers, Ernest Detrick, Gerald Detrick, Galen Detrick and Ray Detrick. Surviving are his daughter and son-in-law, Jennifer Detrick and Scott Provost of Oceanside, Calif.; son and daughter-in-law, Christopher and Karla Detrick of Universal City, Texas; one sister and brother-in-law, Thelma Jean and Elton Miller of Greenville; and grandchildren, Zachary Provost and Erica Detrick. Funeral services will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday at Frings and Bayliff Funeral Home, 327 W. Main St., Tipp City. Burial will be at Pleasant Hill Cemetery. Visitation will be from 1 p.m. until the time of service Tuesday at the funeral home. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

I am a descendant of William Perry Boyer born 1831 in Miami County, Ohio, died 1915 in Troy, Miami County, Ohio, and his wife, Eliza Fair, born 1836 died 1910 in Ohio. Their children were: Jane E. born 1854 in Iowa Mary Isabel born 1855 in Iowa, married Eli Fair (my ancestors) Elizabeth Jane born 1857 Ida or Eda Ett born 1859 married Harry Penny and ? Wolfe Alice Mae born 1861 married George Hatfield George Keifer born 1863 Anna Florence born 1865 Charles Issac Grant born 1869 William Clarence born 1871 Harry Ellis born 1874 Bessie Leenora born 1878 Looking to exchange info. with any of their descendants and especially looking for anyone with photos of the family.

I don't know much about the Schmidlapp family history but have had some as friends. I do know MR. Schmidlapp became a wealthy man and I believe he made his money in New York. He donated the money for the first Piqua Library. You could get information on him at Flesh Public Library. Mr. Schmidlapp my have helped him get to Piqua. Jim Hartzell -----Original Message----- From: ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohmiami-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of j paymal Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:53 PM To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] German immigrants thank you Linda Gutierrez for your detailed reply. Don't know that my reply to questions asked will offer any more insight, but just in case.... Time period was 1853 Money he had must have been near nothing--the community paid his transport Have not been able to determine if a sister and her family came as well, but if so, the family history by mouth says they lost contact with each other If the community paid his expenses, I assume he was destitute, so how did he make connections? Have attempted to learn as much as possible on line before making a trip to Ohio so that I might have a clue as to where to look. But, so far no luck. The only hint I have found is that at one time he was listed in the census as with the Schmidlapp family. Thanks again for taking the time to answer in such detail. Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda H. Gutierrez<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] German immigrants Hi Joanne, The travel route from New York City to Piqua depends on several factors. Here I am including some general information along with an attempt to answer your question! *What time period did your ancestors immigrate to the US? The earlier they came, the possibilities are fewer. They could have traveled over land on the various "roads" of the time, but this was a very difficult and long journey. They would have had to purchase a wagon and mules in order to make this journey, so unless they had some money they could spare, this would not be the first choice. Many, many immigrants moved west by the waterways. If it was after 1825, they went up the Hudson River to the Erie Canal and traveled across New York State to Lake Erie. Here is a description that was posted on another mailing list of how one family traveled to St. Paul. It will give you some idea: The following account given by a man who traveled in 1849 from Augusta, Maine to St. Paul. It's not clear how far he took the 'steam car.': "...I started from Maine by the steam cars, taking them at Augusta....We went by boat to Boston, then by rail to the Erie Canal. We were ten days on a good clean canal boat and paid five dollars for board and our ticket. I don't remember how long we were on the lakes or what we paid, I should say two weeks. We landed at Chicago. It was an awful mud hole....A man was sending two wagons and teams to Galena, so I hired them...We bought tickets to St. Paul. Three of us took passage on the Yankee. She was really more of a freight than a passenger boat. She only made three trips to St. Paul that year...It was so cold the fifteenth day of October that the Captain was afraid that his boat would freeze in, so would go no further and dumped us in Stillwater... Source: The Project Gutenberg EBook of Old Rail Fence Corners, by Various This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.net<http://www.gutenberg.net/> Title: Old Rail Fence Corners The A. B. C's. of Minnesota History Author: Various Editor: Lucy Leavenworth Wilder Morris Release Date: July 30, 2007 [EBook #22179] Language: English Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1 *** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK OLD RAIL FENCE CORNERS *** Produced by K Nordquist, Dave Morgan, Graeme Mackreth and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at http://www.pgdp.net<http://www.pgdp.net/> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22179/22179-h/22179-h.htm<http://www.gutenber g.org/files/22179/22179-h/22179-h.htm> As you can see, it is not a simple question and even this mode of travel required that the immigrant had a little money. Travel to Piqua could also have been on the canals that, as I understand it, no longer exist today. If they had sufficient funds and it was 1860 or after, they could have used the railroads or partly by rail and partly by water. *Did they have a large or small amount of money? As I have already mentioned, money was a huge factor in how they traveled. The more limited their funds, the more limited the possibilities and the longer the journey. By far the cheapest way to cross New York State was by water. *How many were in the traveling party? While we all know that many families moved to all parts of the US in various fashions during the 18th century, families with small children most likely chose methods of travel that would be the most congenial for their little ones - certainly a canal boat would have been easier than going overland and cheaper, too. If it was a small group of men - brothers, cousins, etc., it is possible they would have looked for a faster way to travel, but again, it would depend on the funds at their disposal. Of course they could have stopped along their way and worked at various jobs to earn more money and some of them did, but to know absolutely how YOUR ancestors arrived in Piqua would be impossible unless you found their diary or some other of their personal papers that told of this account. Despite the fact that many traveled the waterways, others the railways and still others by wagon, I think you will discover that there was still some uniqueness in how each immigrant or immigrant family arrived at their destination. As for a book on this subject, I really do not know of any one book that addresses this subject. You might try looking into what the Ohio libraries might have on this subject. I doubt you will find it in any one book. For example I am currently reading a book on the Erie Canal (in New York State) and it discusses how the immigrants traveled along the canal to their destinations and some about what their experiences might have been. Maps of the period in question will undoubtedly allow you to see the possibilities for travel. Probably the best source for this subject would be any personal accounts you might be able to find, most probably in the libraries or perhaps the Historical Societies. I would recommend asking the Flesh Public Library. The people there are very helpful and if they do not have anything that might provide the information, they probably would know if there is anywhere you could contact that might be able to help you. The e-book I referenced earlie! r ! in this post has some very interesting personal accounts that may give you some insight. I hope that this helps in some way. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealo gy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.r ootsweb.com/~monroenys/> ----- Original Message ----- From: j paymal To: OHMIAMI-L Sent: 23 February, 2008 12:31 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] German immigrants I am sure someone can recommend a book that I might read to explain the path a new immigrant would travel from New York to Piqua, Ohio in 1853. Would this new immigrant need to have a sponsor if his passage was paid for by his native country? Recommendations appreciated--and thanks! 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thank you Linda Gutierrez for your detailed reply. Don't know that my reply to questions asked will offer any more insight, but just in case.... Time period was 1853 Money he had must have been near nothing--the community paid his transport Have not been able to determine if a sister and her family came as well, but if so, the family history by mouth says they lost contact with each other If the community paid his expenses, I assume he was destitute, so how did he make connections? Have attempted to learn as much as possible on line before making a trip to Ohio so that I might have a clue as to where to look. But, so far no luck. The only hint I have found is that at one time he was listed in the census as with the Schmidlapp family. Thanks again for taking the time to answer in such detail. Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda H. Gutierrez<mailto:lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] German immigrants Hi Joanne, The travel route from New York City to Piqua depends on several factors. Here I am including some general information along with an attempt to answer your question! *What time period did your ancestors immigrate to the US? The earlier they came, the possibilities are fewer. They could have traveled over land on the various "roads" of the time, but this was a very difficult and long journey. They would have had to purchase a wagon and mules in order to make this journey, so unless they had some money they could spare, this would not be the first choice. Many, many immigrants moved west by the waterways. If it was after 1825, they went up the Hudson River to the Erie Canal and traveled across New York State to Lake Erie. Here is a description that was posted on another mailing list of how one family traveled to St. Paul. It will give you some idea: The following account given by a man who traveled in 1849 from Augusta, Maine to St. Paul. It's not clear how far he took the 'steam car.': "...I started from Maine by the steam cars, taking them at Augusta....We went by boat to Boston, then by rail to the Erie Canal. We were ten days on a good clean canal boat and paid five dollars for board and our ticket. I don't remember how long we were on the lakes or what we paid, I should say two weeks. We landed at Chicago. It was an awful mud hole....A man was sending two wagons and teams to Galena, so I hired them...We bought tickets to St. Paul. Three of us took passage on the Yankee. She was really more of a freight than a passenger boat. She only made three trips to St. Paul that year...It was so cold the fifteenth day of October that the Captain was afraid that his boat would freeze in, so would go no further and dumped us in Stillwater... Source: The Project Gutenberg EBook of Old Rail Fence Corners, by Various This eBook is for the use of anyone anywhere at no cost and with almost no restrictions whatsoever. You may copy it, give it away or re-use it under the terms of the Project Gutenberg License included with this eBook or online at www.gutenberg.net<http://www.gutenberg.net/> Title: Old Rail Fence Corners The A. B. C's. of Minnesota History Author: Various Editor: Lucy Leavenworth Wilder Morris Release Date: July 30, 2007 [EBook #22179] Language: English Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1 *** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK OLD RAIL FENCE CORNERS *** Produced by K Nordquist, Dave Morgan, Graeme Mackreth and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at http://www.pgdp.net<http://www.pgdp.net/> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22179/22179-h/22179-h.htm<http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22179/22179-h/22179-h.htm> As you can see, it is not a simple question and even this mode of travel required that the immigrant had a little money. Travel to Piqua could also have been on the canals that, as I understand it, no longer exist today. If they had sufficient funds and it was 1860 or after, they could have used the railroads or partly by rail and partly by water. *Did they have a large or small amount of money? As I have already mentioned, money was a huge factor in how they traveled. The more limited their funds, the more limited the possibilities and the longer the journey. By far the cheapest way to cross New York State was by water. *How many were in the traveling party? While we all know that many families moved to all parts of the US in various fashions during the 18th century, families with small children most likely chose methods of travel that would be the most congenial for their little ones - certainly a canal boat would have been easier than going overland and cheaper, too. If it was a small group of men - brothers, cousins, etc., it is possible they would have looked for a faster way to travel, but again, it would depend on the funds at their disposal. Of course they could have stopped along their way and worked at various jobs to earn more money and some of them did, but to know absolutely how YOUR ancestors arrived in Piqua would be impossible unless you found their diary or some other of their personal papers that told of this account. Despite the fact that many traveled the waterways, others the railways and still others by wagon, I think you will discover that there was still some uniqueness in how each immigrant or immigrant family arrived at their destination. As for a book on this subject, I really do not know of any one book that addresses this subject. You might try looking into what the Ohio libraries might have on this subject. I doubt you will find it in any one book. For example I am currently reading a book on the Erie Canal (in New York State) and it discusses how the immigrants traveled along the canal to their destinations and some about what their experiences might have been. Maps of the period in question will undoubtedly allow you to see the possibilities for travel. Probably the best source for this subject would be any personal accounts you might be able to find, most probably in the libraries or perhaps the Historical Societies. I would recommend asking the Flesh Public Library. The people there are very helpful and if they do not have anything that might provide the information, they probably would know if there is anywhere you could contact that might be able to help you. The e-book I referenced earlier ! in this post has some very interesting personal accounts that may give you some insight. I hope that this helps in some way. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/<http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/> ----- Original Message ----- From: j paymal To: OHMIAMI-L Sent: 23 February, 2008 12:31 AM Subject: [OHMIAMI] German immigrants I am sure someone can recommend a book that I might read to explain the path a new immigrant would travel from New York to Piqua, Ohio in 1853. Would this new immigrant need to have a sponsor if his passage was paid for by his native country? Recommendations appreciated--and thanks! Joanne Lang Paymal @ langsonly.com tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you tell me where this cemetery is located? Barb Barb, Thank you. I don't know anything about them, I'm sorry. I took it because it was close to the one I took of my mom's first cousin, Virgil Hooker. Thank you, Charlotte **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

My grandparents Henry Marion Speece and Etta Myrtle (Maxson) Speece plus my great-grandparents Henry Bascom Speece and Phebe (Tunks) Speece are buried at Cedar Point Cemetery, Pasco, Shelby County. It is such a pretty and well kept cemetery. My mother told me that they bought some of the first grave sites there when it was first established. ----- Original Message ----- From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com> To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cedar Point Cemetery, Pasco, Shelby County, Ohio Pictures (CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com<mailto:CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com>) 2. TOBIAS, WHIP (Richard Koogler) 3. Jacob HYATT and Mary ROBBINS (Michael Reck) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:28:49 EST From: CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com<mailto:CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com> Subject: Re: [OHMIAMI] Cedar Point Cemetery, Pasco, Shelby County, Ohio Pictures To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com<mailto:ohmiami@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <be4.272ffae3.34f30351@aol.com<mailto:be4.272ffae3.34f30351@aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 2/12/2008 8:02:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mbarbie65806@aol.com<mailto:mbarbie65806@aol.com> writes: What a nice site!? I was particularly interested in Harley Drake and wife.? I believe he was a nephew to my grandmother.? Do you have any information about him and his wife?? Also I was interested in why you took that particular picture.? Was this someone you knew or were related to?? Barb Barb, Thank you. I don't know anything about them, I'm sorry. I took it because it was close to the one I took of my mom's first cousin, Virgil Hooker. Thank you, Charlotte **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/<http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:30:11 -0600 From: "Richard Koogler" <RichardKoogler@msn.com<mailto:RichardKoogler@msn.com>> Subject: [OHMIAMI] TOBIAS, WHIP To: <OHMIAMI-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <BAY101-DAV58196DE6A005FD02A16C0D5180@phx.gbl<mailto:BAY101-DAV58196DE6A005FD02A16C0D5180@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON DANIEL TOBIAS MARRIED TO ELIZABETH WHIP. THANK YOU, RICHARD KOOGLER ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:08:36 -0500 From: "Michael Reck" <moreck@sbcglobal.net<mailto:moreck@sbcglobal.net>> Subject: [OHMIAMI] Jacob HYATT and Mary ROBBINS To: <OHMIAMI-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <004401c8774a$f3488300$d9d98900$@net<mailto:004401c8774a$f3488300$d9d98900$@net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Searching info on the following couple: Jacob HYATT and Mary ROBBINS Mary Robbins was the daughter of William ROBBINS and Mary Nicholas. William & Mary are buried at Pleasant Hill Cemetery. Michael Reck, Riverside, Ohio HYPERLINK "mailto:moreck@sbcglobal.net"moreck@sbcglobal.net<mailto:moreck@sbcglobalnet"moreck@sbcglobal.net> Wouldn't it be nice if whenever we messed up our life we could simply press 'Ctr Alt Delete' and start all over? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1292 - Release Date: 2/21/2008 4:09 PM ------------------------------ To contact the OHMIAMI list administrator, send an email to OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the OHMIAMI mailing list, send an email to OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65 **************************************

Would you care to send me theier information? I do not see them on hte list of entries on the findagrave site.I do see a few MAXSON s. Mary & Herman Kiser <marypete4284@msn.com> wrote: My grandparents Henry Marion Speece and Etta Myrtle (Maxson) Speece plus my great-grandparents Henry Bascom Speece and Phebe (Tunks) Speece are buried at Cedar Point Cemetery, Pasco, Shelby County. It is such a pretty and well kept cemetery. My mother told me that they bought some of the first grave sites there when it was first established. ----- Original Message ----- From: ohmiami-request@rootsweb.com To: ohmiami@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:01 AM Subject: OHMIAMI Digest, Vol 3, Issue 65 T ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still don't want to quit..... www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton Pam Holeton Piqua,Ohio Miami County www.findagrave.com currently working on Forest Hill cemetery and several surrounding cemeteries. www.myspace.com/pamelaholeton --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

if you go to www.findagrave.com, there is a map of where the cemetery is(cedar point) It also gives the coordinates. mbarbie65806@aol.com wrote: Can you tell me where this cemetery is located? Barb Barb, Thank you. I don't know anything about them, I'm sorry. I took it because it was close to the one I took of my mom's first cousin, Virgil Hooker. Thank you, Charlotte **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com tdn-net.com/genealogy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHMIAMI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ....you know you are addicted when you have traced your ancestral lines all the way back to Adam and Eve, have it fully documented, and still don't want to quit..... www.tribalpages.com/tribes/holeton Pam Holeton Piqua,Ohio Miami County www.findagrave.com currently working on Forest Hill cemetery and several surrounding cemeteries. www.myspace.com/pamelaholeton --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Searching info on the following couple: Jacob HYATT and Mary ROBBINS Mary Robbins was the daughter of William ROBBINS and Mary Nicholas. William & Mary are buried at Pleasant Hill Cemetery. Michael Reck, Riverside, Ohio HYPERLINK "mailto:moreck@sbcglobal.net"moreck@sbcglobal.net Wouldn't it be nice if whenever we messed up our life we could simply press 'Ctr Alt Delete' and start all over? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.9/1292 - Release Date: 2/21/2008 4:09 PM

I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON DANIEL TOBIAS MARRIED TO ELIZABETH WHIP. THANK YOU, RICHARD KOOGLER