Hi Keith, You are correct as regards the Northwest Territory. <What evidence can you cite to back up your statements? I have never seen anything that says Wayne County, Ohio was part of Wayne County, Mich. > My first statement <<At one time, the Western Reserve (which includes Medina Co.) and some land to the south of the Western Reserve (including present day Wayne Co., Ohio) were part of what is today Wayne Co., Michigan.>> was incorrect, not to mention very confusing. I should have made it clear that I was referring to the Wayne Co. of the Northwest Territory. The county seat for the Wayne Co. of the NW. T. was Detroit. I have been under the impression that the NW. T. Wayne Co. was gradually reduced in size and in 1815 became Wayne Co., MI. Sorry, this has been my understanding for so many years, I really don't recall where I first found this piece of information. I have never actually researched this myself to determine if it is correct or not. My intention was simply to indicate that the areas which today are Medina and Wayne Counties of Ohio were once a part of the Northwest Territory. This is in Article 5 of the Ordinance of July 13, 1787, An Ordinance for the government of the territory of the United States northwest of the river Ohio, as it appears in the appendix of a booklet published by Jim Petro, Auditor of the State of Ohio, entitled "Ohio Lands, A short History", p. 55. <Prior to the formation of Ohio and Michigan, The County of Wayne included the northeastern parts of Indiana, the northwestern parts of Ohio and all of Michigan. > As for the exact area of land encompassed by the Wayne Co. of the NW. T., the source I have, [a 1984 reprint of the 1879 "History of Cuyahoga County, Ohio," by Crisfield Johnson, p. 39] indicates that the Wayne Co. of the Northwest Territory was established 15 August 1796 and "nominally embracing the whole tract from the Cuyahoga [river] westward and northward beyond Detroit, which place was made the county seat." I don't have a map at home which shows the area of Wayne Co., NW. T. I have seen (but don't have a source citation for) maps which show a part of Wayne Co., NW.T. (a finger if you will) extending east, to the west and south of the Cuyahoga River into present Wayne Co., OH and including Medina Co., OH. I do not have access to a copy of the ordinance by which Wayne Co., NW.T. was erected but, if the source I have is correct and the Cuyahoga River was the eastern boundary, then a look at any map of the area will show that the Cuyahoga River runs slightly southeast out of Cleveland to Akron, before turning northeast. This effectively puts Medina Co., OH and, depending on the exact wording of the act establishing Wayne Co., N.W. T., may also put at least part of Wayne Co. OH in Wayne Co., NW. T. I don't have Howe's here at home, but another source I do have, N.B. Northrop, "Pioneer History of Medina County," (Medina, OH: Geo. Redway, 1861), p. 6, uses the same description as Keith has indicated appears in Howe's "Historical Collections of Ohio". This is not as detailed as the description which is given in Johnson's "History of Cuyahoga Co.", which is also not an exact transcript of the act. Perhaps someone on the list will have an exact transcript of the act which established Wayne Co., NW. T. and can advise as to what the actual wording was. This might clear up the question as to exactly what present counties of Ohio were in Wayne Co., NW. T. As for the townships which have, at varoius times, been a part of Medina County, this is from research I have conducted in tax records, census records, court records, including but not limited to, Probate Court records primarily in Medina County, but also in Lorain and Summit counties. It can also be found in N.B. Northrop, "Pioneer History of Medina County"; W.H. Perrin, J.H. Battle, and W.A. Goodspeed, "History of Medina County, and Ohio" (Chicago: Baskin & Batty, Historical Publishers, 1881). Donna ***************************** Donna J. Gruber, CGRS West Salem, OH [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [OHMEDINA-L] Boundry Changes, Re: [OHMedina] Culver family What evidence can you cite to back up your statements? I have never seen anything that says Wayne County, Ohio was part of Wayne County, Mich. Prior to the formation of Ohio and Michigan, The County of Wayne included the northeastern parts of Indiana, the northwestern parts of Ohio and all of Michigan. The area was called the Northwest Territory until 1803. The Territory Headquarters was at Marietta, Ohio and then moved to Cincinnati. Ohio was not admitted to the Union until 1803. At that time, what is now the State of Michigan was totally within the newly formed Territory of Indiana. The Territory of Michigan was formed in 1805. Howe's Historical Collections of Ohio states that "Wayne County was established by Gov. St. Clair, August 15, 1796.... These limits embrace what is now part of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, and all of Michigan and the towns of Ohio City, Chicago, Sault St. Mary's (sic), Mackinaw, etc." Keith Clark Rittman, Ohio

Posted on: Medina Co. Oh Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Medina/10480 Surname: McNeill, North, Sabin ------------------------- I am looking for marriage information of John McNeill, son of Thomas and Elizabeth Sabin McNeill. Were they married in Medina County, Ohio, 1/11/1810? Also, is there a marriage record, if so how do I get a copy? Any help appreciated.

Posted on: Medina Co. Oh Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Oh/Medina/10479 Surname: Barrett, Palmer ------------------------- Medina County, Ohio Barretts - Philadelphia Pa. Origin ---------------------------------------------------------- Note: I have used all caps for my specific line. ---------------------------------------------------------- Gr Gr GR GR GRANDPARENTS: (1st Name ?) BARRETT D & P birth:(Birth Date Unknown) (France) D & P marr: (Approx.1788-Conclusion of Amer.Rev.War) ------------(Philadelphia, PA.) D & P death:(Date ? )(In or near Philadelphia, PA.) Spouse: Worked in British Prison where future husband was being held as an Amer. Revolutionary War prisoner. CHILDREN OF (ABOVE) 4TH GR GR PARENTS (All presumably born in the Philadephia, PA. area) 1. Brother--------(Birth Order & Name unknown) 2. Sister---------(Birth Order & Name unknown) 3. Brother--------(Birth Order & Name unknown) 4. Caleb Barrett--(Birth Order unknown) (He was for 20 Yrs. -------------------a County Treasurer - County Unknown) 5. LEWIS BARRETT (Youngest of the five siblings) ---------------------------------------------------------- GR GR GR GRANDPARENTS: LEWIS BARRETT D & P birth: 02-13-1794 Philadelphia, PA. D & P marr: 04-27-1807 Northumberland Co., PA. D & P death: 01-28-1870 La Fayette Twp.,Medina Co., Ohio Spouse:Sarah (Snyder) Barrett B- 08-27-1794 Lancaster, PA. D- 4-24-1877 La Fayette Twp., Median Co., Ohio LEWIS & SARAH (SNYDER) BARRETT GEOGRAPHICAL MOVEMENTS 1794-1823: Philadelphia, Pa. 1823-1829: Union Twp., Portage Co., Ohio 1829-1838: "White Oaks Openings" Suffield Twp., ------------Portage Co., Ohio 1838-1840: Fulton Co., Ohio (near Maumee) 1840-1847: Cannan Twp., Wayne Co., Ohio 1847-Until Death La Fayette Twp., Median Co., Ohio CHILDREN OF LEWIS & SARAH (SNYDER) BARRETT (Birth order is uncertain except Joseph H. who is 6th) (1ST NAMES)-(Last Know Residence)-(Married Names) 1. James Barrett ----- (Calif.) 2. Sophia Barrett ---- (Mrs. John Sharp) - (Calif.) 3. Sarah Barrett ----- (Mrs. Anson Eldridge) - (Calif.) -----------------------(marr:07-04-1856 Medina Co., Ohio) 4. Ann Barrett ------- (Mrs. George Favinger) (Calif.) -----------------------(Married Medina Co., Ohio area) 5. Lewis Barrett ----- (Macon Co., Missouri.) 6. JOSEPH H. BARRETT - (Chippewa Lake, La Fayette ------------------------Twp., Medina Co., Ohio) 7. William Barrett --- (Wadsworth Twp., Medina Co.,Ohio) 8. Elizabeth Barrett - (Mrs. Robert Carns/Carnes) -----------------------(St. Joseph, Mich.) -----------------------(marr: 12-28-1837 Portage Co.,Ohio) 9. Emily Barrett ----- (Mrs. Jacob Borttorff/Borttorf ------------------------/Botorf) (St. Joseph, Mich.) ------------------------(marr: 6-14-1860 Medina Co., Ohio) 10. Nelson Barrett -(Died in Civil War)(Co. D 42nd O.V.I.) ---------------------------------------------------------- GR GR GRANDPARENTS: JOSEPH H. BARRETT D & P birth: 10-09-1829-Suffield Twp.,Portage Co., Ohio D & P marr: 12-21-1853--Medina Co., Ohio D & P death: 09-18-1893-Chippewa Lake, La Fayette Twp., ------------------------Medina Co.,Ohio Spouse: Margaret Jane (Palmer) Barrett (Birth 08-06-1837) -------------La Fayette Twp., Medina Co., Ohio (Death ? ) JOSEPH & MARGARET BARRETT GEOGRAPHICAL MOVEMENTS 1829-1838 Suffield Twp., Portage Co. Ohio 1838-1840 Fulton Co., Ohio (near Maumee) 1840-1847 Cannan Twp., Wayne Co., Ohio 1847-1849 La Fayette Twp., Median Co., Ohio 1849-1853 Joseph went out on his own at 20 1853-???? Milton Twp., Medina Co., Ohio (Married Margaret) ????-1856 Ekhart, Indiana (Went back to Oh. due to health ---------------------------issues) 1856-Until Death Chippewa Lake, La Fayette Twp., Median -----------------Co., Ohio CHILDREN OF JOSEPH H. & MARGARET (PALMER) BARRETT All Children Except Lucy Were Born At: Chippewa Lake, La Fayette Twp., Medina Co. Ohio 1. Lucy J. (aka Jennette L.) Barrett----(Born 1855) ---------------------(Mrs.James Dundast) 2. Art (aka Artebenes) Barrett ---------(Born 1857) 3. Alamedora (aka Alta M.) Barrett -----(Born 02-27-1860) 4. Ada Barrett -------------------------(Born 1863) 5. SHERMAN Y. BARRETT (GR GRANDPARENTS)-(Born 1865) ------------(spouse: Della M. Arnold) ------------(marr:02-11-1886 Medina) 6. Clara EM Barrett --------------------(Born 10-29-1866) ------------------(Mrs. Gideon Markle) ------------------(marr: Oct 1880) 7. Orrah J. (aka Orrie)Barrett----------(Born 1869) ----------------(Mrs. Levi Derhammer) ----------------(marr: Dec.31, 1885) 8. Ina (aka possibly Sarah) Barrett ----(Born 18??) 9. Gertude Barrett ---------------------(Born 18??) 10. Mary Barrett -----------------------(Born 18??) 11. Mabel Barrett (Died in infancy)-----(Born 18??) ---------------------------------------------------------- I would appreciate any information that would add to the list above. I'm particularly interested in assertaining my 4th GR GR Parent's full names. He came from France and joined the Colonial Army. After the War he married, and settled in the Philadelphia, PA. area. Thank you, Kenneth (Ken) Barrett [email protected] ----------------------------------------------------------

According to the Mennonite Cemeteries of Medina County by Ford Coolamn and Rachael Kreider Abraham Gehman (died Sept 11, 1871 aged 71 y, 6 m and 21 d). His wife was Catherine __________ (born 1/15/1798 and died Aug 2, 1873. Their children, as pieced togrther from census records and court house records were Michael 1823 married Anna Bergey Samuel 1825 -1855 Henry 1828 married Fannie Hyde Mary 1830 married Abraham Bergey Jr, Jesse 1832 m Lovina Krieble Sarah 1835 m. William Landes Catherine married Henry G. Koppes According to Koppes Genealogy, Catherine and Henry had 4 children, Clara, Adella, Nellie and Ida (mentioned above) Terry R. McGuire Coordinator of the Koppes Project Date forwarded: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:44:54 -0700 Date sent: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:13:01 -0700 From: "Laurie E. Castillo" <[email protected]> Subject: [OHMEDINA-L] Koppes and Gehman Family To: [email protected] Forwarded by: [email protected] > Am looking for the birthplace and parents of: > > Catherine Gehman (1837-1913) who married Henry G. Koppes. > > They had atleast one child: Ida Jannett Koppes b Feb 1863 and died 17 > Aug 1863. > > Thanks for any help! > > Laurie >

Hi Mindy, Laurie and all, You are correct in that there were boundary changes but you don't have what those boundary changes were quite right. At one time, the Western Reserve (which includes Medina Co.) and some land to the south of the Western Reserve (including present day Wayne Co., Ohio) were part of what is today Wayne Co., Michigan. Present day Wayne Co., OH was formed in 1808 from Columbiana Co., OH. It never included any part of Medina Co. or was any part of this Wayne Co. ever a part of Medina Co. In May of 1800, Connecticut ceded the Western Reserve and in July of 1800 Trumbull Co. was formed and included Medina Co. From 1800 to 1808, Medina Co. records are in Trumbull Co., OH. In 1808, Portage Co. was formed from Trumbull Co. and included what is now Medina Co. In 1812, Medina Co. was formed from Portage Co. However, Medina was not organized until 1818 so from 1808 to 1818, Medina Co. records are in Portage Co., OH Lorain Co. was formed in 1822 from several counties, including part of Medina Co. In 1840 Summit Co. was formed. Part of Medina Co. was given to Summit Co. in 1840 and part of Lorain Co. was returned to Medina Co. in 1840, which established the boundaries of Medina Co. as they are today. In 1846, Ashland Co. was formed from several counties including a part of Lorain Co. which, at one time, belonged to Medina Co. Present day Wayne Co., OH underwent boundary changes as well, but I don't have the details at hand. You might find the details of Wayne Co., OH boundary changes on the Wayne Co., OH GenWeb pages. Or perhaps someone on the Wayne Co. mail list might be able to detail them for you. Knowledge of the history of the area where your ancestors lived can be a big plus in locating the records of your ancestors. In this case, not only boundary changes, but county formation and organization dates, play a big part in determining where to look for records. Donna ***************************** Donna J. Gruber, CGRS West Salem, OH [email protected]

Mindy -- I believe Portage County should be in this list also. Laurie "Laurie E. Castillo" wrote: > Mindy, > > Not to long after Aaron Culver arrived there was a boundary change. Norton Two > wound up in Summit County. Portions of what were once Medina County wound up in > Wayne, Summit and Lorain Counties. So early reach in this area often requires > reference to the records of more than one county. > > Hope this helps. > > Laurie > > Minden Shadle wrote: > > > Seeking information on the Culver family. Aaron Culver brought his > > family from Pennsylvania to Stark Co., Ohio. In the 1810s he moved his > > family to Wayne County. In the late 1820s he again moved, this time to > > Medina County. > > Aaron settled in Norton twp., Medina Co. David and Truman Culver, who I > > believe are his sons, settled in Sharon twp. Nathanial Culver remained in > > Stark Co. > > > > Would like to correspond with anyone with info on this family. > > > > Mindy Shadle > > [email protected]

Hello! I am looking for information on the birth places of the following couple: James Walters (1839/1840-1918) and Elizabeth Holben (1842-1922) md about 1863 Had the following children: Carrie, R. Sherman, Adel, Hershel A., Ora, and William. Thanks for any clues. Laurie

Am looking for the birthplace and parents of: Catherine Gehman (1837-1913) who married Henry G. Koppes. They had atleast one child: Ida Jannett Koppes b Feb 1863 and died 17 Aug 1863. Thanks for any help! Laurie

Am looking for the birthplaces of : Wade Prentice (1857-1935) and Sarah Geisinger (1861-1930) who married11 Dec 1884 in Medina County. Also need the names of Sarah's parents. They had at least one child: Clair (male I believe) b 1886 in Harrisville Twp and d 1890. Thanks for any clues! Laurie

Hello! Am looking for birth places and parents of Thomas Bird (1857-1933) and Kate Forbes (1859-1926) Need marriage date also. They had the following children: Thomas W., Bessie M., Reuben E., Pauline, Richard, Nina, and Inez Lorrine. Thanks! Laurie

Am looking for the birthplace and parents of Henry Herman Gienke who married Ida Mary Wolfe 23 May 1886 in Medina County. They had children: Arthur, Edward F., Clara M., Urias, Franklen H., Clayton Bryan and Ernest. Henry supposedly came from Germany - but I am stuck on where. Laurie

I am looking for information on the birthplace and parents of the following couple: Orville K. Nickerson 1848-1924 and his wife Etta H. Hill 1866-1936 Additionally I know they have the following children: Mae E. Nickerson b 16 May 1886 Litchfield Twp d 1949 md John C. Fahrion Allison Nickerson b 4 Jan 1890 Litchfield Twp d 5 Jan 1890 Elsie Nickerson b 1 Aug 1892 Litchfield d 7 Aug 1892 Hellen Nickerson b 10 Sep 1897 Litchfield d 10 Sep 1897 Litchfield. Thanks for any help. Laurie Werner Castillo

Seeking information on the Culver family. Aaron Culver brought his family from Pennsylvania to Stark Co., Ohio. In the 1810s he moved his family to Wayne County. In the late 1820s he again moved, this time to Medina County. Aaron settled in Norton twp., Medina Co. David and Truman Culver, who I believe are his sons, settled in Sharon twp. Nathanial Culver remained in Stark Co. Would like to correspond with anyone with info on this family. Mindy Shadle [email protected]

Mindy, Not to long after Aaron Culver arrived there was a boundary change. Norton Two wound up in Summit County. Portions of what were once Medina County wound up in Wayne, Summit and Lorain Counties. So early reach in this area often requires reference to the records of more than one county. Hope this helps. Laurie Minden Shadle wrote: > Seeking information on the Culver family. Aaron Culver brought his > family from Pennsylvania to Stark Co., Ohio. In the 1810s he moved his > family to Wayne County. In the late 1820s he again moved, this time to > Medina County. > Aaron settled in Norton twp., Medina Co. David and Truman Culver, who I > believe are his sons, settled in Sharon twp. Nathanial Culver remained in > Stark Co. > > Would like to correspond with anyone with info on this family. > > Mindy Shadle > [email protected]

Posted on: Medina Co. Oh Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Medina/10467 Surname: PICKETT, JUDSON ------------------------- CAROL - I find no mention of your Daniel Pickett, nor his wife Sarah (Cole) Pickett, in History of Medina Co., OH (Baskin & Battey - 1881), but I do find a biographic sketch of Mrs. CLARA (Pickett) JUDSON on page 745. She sounds to me as she is part of the family you are working on, as it states that she was born in Colesville, Broome Co., N.. in 1812. CLARA PICKETT is also mentioned within a chapter on Litchfield Twp, in Memorial to the Pioneer Women of the Western Reserve on page 875. If you do not already have those accounts, I will be happy to type copies for you. Just let me know. JEAN BEST

Posted on: Medina Co. Oh Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Medina/10466 Surname: Pickett, Cole ------------------------- Daniel was born about 1771 and died July 12, 1855 in Litchfield, Medina Co., OH; and Sarah [Cole] Pickett born January 13, 1772 and died July 24, 1835 in Litchfield, Medina Co., OH. They were married November 24, 1792 in New Milford, Litchfield, CT. In 1795, Daniel and Sarah moved to Coleville Twpship, Broome Co., NY. The town was named after Nathaniel Cole, Sarah's brother. In 1832, Daniel Pickett and family moved to Litchfield, Medina Co., OH. Their children included at least Armine born 1800, Daniel and Clara born 1812. Daniel Pickett Jr. born 1808-1809, married Harriet Mary [?]about 1833 probably in Litchfield. They had at least these children: Roswell, Maria, Adeline, Eli Samuel, Coswin, Carolina and Almira. Coswin was killed in the Civil War. Eli was disabled in the Civil War. Eli married Sarah Almira Fellows in 1865 in Minnesota. Please contact me if you are linked to this family. Blessings: Carol Anderson

Donna, Try the library in Medina, they have been a huge gelp to me. If it helps, I will be in Medina for an extended Easter holiday. I would be happy to help you out with whatever you are searching for. Email me privately if I can be of assistance. Cheers, Laura Towslee-Hadfield [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: donna [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHMEDINA-L] marriage records Can anyone tell me if there is an online index to marriage licenses in Medina County for 1800 to 1900? And what are the hours that the Courthouse is open for research? Thanks in advance. Donna Hanssen

Can anyone tell me if there is an online index to marriage licenses in Medina County for 1800 to 1900? And what are the hours that the Courthouse is open for research? Thanks in advance. Donna Hanssen

Hi, do any of those searching the YODER or DAGUE names have information about this YODER/DAGUE family? Christian YODER, born c 1814 ? PA married 12/22/1836 by Rev John Wallace to Rachel DAGUE (c 1804 ? - ). They may have lived in Salisbury, Lancaster Co, Pa. at the time of their marriage. Their second child, Andrew, was born there in 1841. By the time of the 1850 census, they lived in Chester Co., PA. The dates of birth are probably off, because those dates indicate that Rachel was about ten years older than Christian. Also, do any YODER researchers have information about the family of John YODER who was an early preacher in the Black River Brethren Church, Medina Co., OH? I think that Black River Brethren was probably founded 1855. Cathy Martin ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Posted on: Medina Co. Oh Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Medina/10462 Surname: Stuart, Moore ------------------------- I am seeking any information about the desendents of Hiram or Hart L.Stuart. They and their relatives are still living in Medina County and Spencer, Ohio area. Hiram had 7 sons: Robert,William M., Hiram R., John M., Eligah H.,Perry and Hart L. Stuart. Hiram was married to a Betsey Hanes on March 10, 1857. Hart L. Stuart and wife Eva Myers are buried in Spencer as is Hart's mother, Anna MAria Vincent. If you have any information pleace contact me at [email protected] or 440-775-4048. Thank you