About 10 (million) THANKS to you. Because of your EMail on the Medina List, I found listed My four Grandparents One Uncle and his wife One Brother in law and both of his parents Three Aunts I wish Medina County had one of these lists --from an earlier era as all of my Mother's family were there. One set of the Grandparents and the uncle and his wife came from England to Cleveland via London, Canada. Again--many many thanks. Lola Texas HAYES, INMAN, LIPPENCOTT, MARSH, ROGERS, SANFORD, SMITH All of Medina Co., OH from NJ, VT, MA, CONN via NY AVIS, COOK, CRACKNELL (CRACKNAIL), HAMMOND, HOLLAND, ORREDGE, PULHAM, THOROGOOD, TURNER All in England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri Lumadue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [OHMEDINA-L] Ottomar Adam Albrecht > You might find his obit in Cleveland at: > > http://www.cpl.org/index.asp?bhjs=1&bhsw=800&bhsh=600&bhswi=455&bhshi=393&bh > flver=4&bhdir=1&bhje=1 > > Sherri > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:27 PM > Subject: [OHMEDINA-L] Ottomar Adam Albrecht > > > > His father Michael died in 1914 and according to his obituary, at the time > of his death, Otto resided in Cleveland. >

>From the Medina County Gazette Medina, Ohio Friday, November 4, 1927 LIVENSPERGER - At Seville, on Wednesday, Nov. 2, G. A. Livensperger, aged 60 years, 6 months. Funeral at the home, Friday, Nov. 4 at 2 p.m.; cremation in Cleveland. (Ed. note: Mr. Livensperger was born June 22, 1867, and his first name was GRANT, per Ohio death certificate # 64986)

You might find his obit in Cleveland at: http://www.cpl.org/index.asp?bhjs=1&bhsw=800&bhsh=600&bhswi=455&bhshi=393&bh flver=4&bhdir=1&bhje=1 Sherri ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: [OHMEDINA-L] Ottomar Adam Albrecht > His father Michael died in 1914 and according to his obituary, at the time of his death, Otto resided in Cleveland.

Searching for family of George Bernard Elliott born 1892 in Butler Co. Ky. Died 25 Feb.1923 in Mansfield, Ohio. Father George Elliott born (when and where) in Ohio.(Father of George Sr. may have been William.) Mother "Lina" Reed born (when and where) in Ky. George Bernard Elliott married #1 Emma Smitson 1916 in Brown Co. Ohio, divorced 1919 in Brown Co. Married #2 Gracie (when, where?)sometime before his death. Story from my Grandmother, he was the oldest of 7 children. Can someone help? Thank you in advance, Kathleen

Wow! What an incredible experience! So incredible that I'd like to share it with everyone. By this evening I received 51 responses to the message I sent last night. I will give a brief rundown of the nature of the responses. 1 person provided me with Jake's e-mail address. I am copying him on this message and including my and his original messages below so that he can put the results in perspective. 36 people agreed with me outright. Many thanked me for saying what they hadn't. 2 of these people asked me about my lineage. I will be responding to them this weekend. 2 people didn't understand my message. 1 County Coordinator asked for my permission to forward my message to the County Coordinator's List. 2 County Coordinators said my message would never be read by anyone at RootsWeb or Ancestry.com. 4 people offered help in getting around the new system. 3 people were offended by my language. For that I apologize. I certainly could have used a better choice of words and still had the same impact. I have reworded my original message below to avoid offending them again. 1 person responded with no message. 2 responses were received with a virus infected attachment. These appeared to come from the same person. Fortunately, my Norton AntiVirus issued warnings immediately that the attachments were infected. Thank you all for the kind words of support. I hope sending my original message and copying the results to Mr. Gehring will affect changes at RootsWeb in a positive way. I will also be very happy to provide copies of these messages to Jake, without the senders' names, of course, unless I receive permission from those who sent them. At times keeping it simple can be a very difficult task. I have been programming for users since 1983 and have always tried to adhere to one very simple credo -- Get the user to his destination in three steps or less. There are times when it takes some deep thinking but it can usually be done. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray W. Justus" <[email protected]> To: RootsWeb Mailing Lists Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Re: Message from Rootsweb Jake, I don't know if this message has a snowball's chance in in that proverbial hot place of reaching you but I pray that it does. I appreciate your comments about the ease of use of the new search capabilities but there is one thing that has left me dumbfounded the past several weeks. Why in the world do you want to make it so difficult for us to get to the point where we can do a search? Whenever I click on a button at a RootsWeb County site that says Queries, Bios, Obits, Pensions, Wills, Bible Records or Deeds, I am directed to a cryptic page that is titled in bold letters "Message Boards" and provides me with absolutely no information. I can then start an endless drill down to the other side of the earth or say, "Balderdash!" and go elsewhere. Do you have anyone on staff that actually does genealogy research? I think it is time for your whole crew to fall back and regroup. The status quo is headed straight down the tubes. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ ------------------------- Jake's Original Message ------------------------- MESSAGE FROM THE ROOTSWEB HOME OFFICE by Jake Gehring, RootsWeb Executive Producer Our message boards improvements continue this week. My comments regard the search features in the new system. Sometimes certain boards and the messages they contain have been moved since they were initially indexed -- when you search and try to view posts, you get an error message asking you to check back in a few hours. In some cases this message lasts a lot longer than expected. We're changing the error message and working hard to fix the underlying problem. I'll report the status of this issue next week. Generally, however, we hope that you are impressed with the new search features. The new system shows search results ranked by relevance -- meaning that the system will display the best hits first. For example, messages that contain all of your terms are ranked higher than those that contain only some. Here are a couple of additional search tips: Wildcard Searching. The new message boards allow wildcard searching as long as the user specifies at least the first three characters in the word (i.e., users can search for "gehr*" to find "gehring, gehrig, gehrke," etc.). Search Operators. New functionality allows users to add powerful operators to their search terms to affect results. These operators, the plus and minus signs, are placed just before your search terms and function like popular Internet search engines Yahoo! and AltaVista. If you put a plus (+) sign in front of any word, that word *must* appear in a message for it to be a match. If there are terms that you want to exclude (you don't want to see messages in which these terms appear), you can place a minus sign (-) in front of them. For example, a search for "+gehring heinrich -baden" will return only those hits that contain the word "gehring" but not the word "baden", and in this group any messages containing "heinrich" will be displayed before those that don't.

I apologize to everyone for the incomplete message I just sent. Let's try it again. Jake, I don't know if this message has a snowball's chance in hell of reaching you but I pray that it does. I appreciate your comments about the ease of use of the new search capabilities but there is one thing that has left me dumbfounded the past several weeks. Why, in God's name, do you want to make it so difficult for us to get to the point where we can do a search? Whenever I click on a button at a RootsWeb County site that says Queries, Bios, Obits, Pensions, Wills, Bible Records or Deeds, I am directed to a cryptic page that is titled in bold letters "Message Boards" and provides me with absolutely no information. I can then start an endless drill down to the other side of the earth or say, "The H___ with it!" and go elsewhere. Do you have anyone on staff that actually does genealogy research? I think it is time for your whole crew to fall back and regroup. The status quo is headed straight down the tubes. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ --------------------------- Original Message ------------------------ MESSAGE FROM THE ROOTSWEB HOME OFFICE by Jake Gehring, RootsWeb Executive Producer Our message boards improvements continue this week. My comments regard the search features in the new system. Sometimes certain boards and the messages they contain have been moved since they were initially indexed -- when you search and try to view posts, you get an error message asking you to check back in a few hours. In some cases this message lasts a lot longer than expected. We're changing the error message and working hard to fix the underlying problem. I'll report the status of this issue next week. Generally, however, we hope that you are impressed with the new search features. The new system shows search results ranked by relevance -- meaning that the system will display the best hits first. For example, messages that contain all of your terms are ranked higher than those that contain only some. Here are a couple of additional search tips: Wildcard Searching. The new message boards allow wildcard searching as long as the user specifies at least the first three characters in the word (i.e., users can search for "gehr*" to find "gehring, gehrig, gehrke," etc.). Search Operators. New functionality allows users to add powerful operators to their search terms to affect results. These operators, the plus and minus signs, are placed just before your search terms and function like popular Internet search engines Yahoo! and AltaVista. If you put a plus (+) sign in front of any word, that word *must* appear in a message for it to be a match. If there are terms that you want to exclude (you don't want to see messages in which these terms appear), you can place a minus sign (-) in front of them. For example, a search for "+gehring heinrich -baden" will return only those hits that contain the word "gehring" but not the word "baden", and in this group any messages containing "heinrich" will be displayed before those that don't.

Jake, I don't know if this message has a snowball's chance in hell of reaching you but I pray that it does. I appreciate your comments about the ease of use of the new search capabilities but there is one thing that has left me dumbfounded the past several weeks. Why, in God's name, do you want to make it so difficult for us to get to the point where we can do a search? -------------------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------------- MESSAGE FROM THE ROOTSWEB HOME OFFICE by Jake Gehring, RootsWeb Executive Producer Our message boards improvements continue this week. My comments regard the search features in the new system. Sometimes certain boards and the messages they contain have been moved since they were initially indexed -- when you search and try to view posts, you get an error message asking you to check back in a few hours. In some cases this message lasts a lot longer than expected. We're changing the error message and working hard to fix the underlying problem. I'll report the status of this issue next week. Generally, however, we hope that you are impressed with the new search features. The new system shows search results ranked by relevance -- meaning that the system will display the best hits first. For example, messages that contain all of your terms are ranked higher than those that contain only some. Here are a couple of additional search tips: Wildcard Searching. The new message boards allow wildcard searching as long as the user specifies at least the first three characters in the word (i.e., users can search for "gehr*" to find "gehring, gehrig, gehrke," etc.). Search Operators. New functionality allows users to add powerful operators to their search terms to affect results. These operators, the plus and minus signs, are placed just before your search terms and function like popular Internet search engines Yahoo! and AltaVista. If you put a plus (+) sign in front of any word, that word *must* appear in a message for it to be a match. If there are terms that you want to exclude (you don't want to see messages in which these terms appear), you can place a minus sign (-) in front of them. For example, a search for "+gehring heinrich -baden" will return only those hits that contain the word "gehring" but not the word "baden", and in this group any messages containing "heinrich" will be displayed before those that don't.

Does anyone know if the railroad tracks crossing route 42, crossing Ryan Rd. and running behind the Strawberry Fields developement are being used? I believe they are crossing rt.42 near the Fairground entrance. There is a new Ryan homes developement being put in by Strawberry Fields and they run along that developement.

Anna Phillips b. 4-2-1806 (possibly in New York) m. ? Possibly Richard Spangenberg 6-8-1826 d. Oct. 8, 1838 Bath, Medina Co., Ohio her parents were Jason Phillips b. 2-28-1767 d. 2-6-1828 Richfield, Medina Co., Ohio and Anna King b. 4-30-1773 d. Oct.8, 1838 Bath, Medina Co., Ohio I am a direct descendant of Jason and Ann (King) Phillips through Anna Phillips b. 4-2-1806 brother George b. 7-19-1809. Anna's other siblings were Nathaniel b. 6-7-1803, Lydia (Phillips) Ingersoll b. 4-24-1800, Polly (Phillips) McCoy b. 4-18-1798, Jason b. 4-22-1811, and Lucinda b. 10-5-1815

Anne, I wasn't sure by your query whether the obituary you already have was for Otto or for his father Michael, but if you don't already have Otto's obituary, it looks like this might be his (from the online Cleveland Necrology File): Name: Albrecht, Otto A. Date: Aug 18 1964 Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #089. Notes: Albrecht. Otto A. Albrecht age 72, of Restfull Lake, Newbury, O. beloved husband of Mary E., father of Mrs. Leona Spaulding, and Mrs. Justine Bolin, grandfather of three, great-grandfather of seven, brother of Mrs. Augusta Dilley and Mrs. Josephine Miller, passed away Thursday p. m. Friends may call at the Wheeler Funeral Home, Mantua, where services will be held Saturday, Aug. 15, at 1:30 p. m. Burial Hillside Cemetery, Mantua. If you think this might be the Otto Albrecht you're seeking, you might want to post a query to the Geauga and/or Portage County mailing lists, since Newbury is in Geauga County and Mantua is in Portage County. If you want to search other Cleveland-area obituaries, the Cleveland Necrology File can be found by going to http://www.cpl.org/ and clicking on the link on their main page. Hope this helps! Laurel Baer >Subject: [OHMEDINA-L] Ottomar Adam Albrecht >Date: 16 Jul 2001 10:27:08 -0600 >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Recently, I have begun my genealogy beginning with my maternal grandmother's side of the family. >I am looking for any information regarding Ottomar Adam Albrecht who would be my grandmother's >uncle. He was born to Michael and Carolina (Zeller) Albrecht of Scranton Pennsylvania in 1892. >His father Michael died in 1914 and according to his obituary, at the time of his death, Otto resided in >Cleveland. >Other information shows he married Marie Fiore and they had a daughter Leona. >Any information would be appreciated. >Respectfully, >Anne Watros

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Recently, I have begun my genealogy beginning with my maternal grandmother's side of the family. I am looking for any information regarding Ottomar Adam Albrecht who would be my grandmother's uncle. He was born to Michael and Carolina (Zeller) Albrecht of Scranton Pennsylvania in 1892. His father Michael died in 1914 and according to his obituary, at the time of his death, Otto resided in Cleveland. Other information shows he married Marie Fiore and they had a daughter Leona. Any information would be appreciated. Respectfully, Anne Watros

MONDAY, July 16, 2001 Last day to get in on the discounted registration for the Federation of Genealogical Societies conference to be held in Davenport, Iowa, September 11-15, 2001. Please see www.fgs.org for more information on the multitude of lectures and over 100 vendors. Admission to the vendor hall is free. &&&&&&&&&&& &&&&&&&&&&&&& TUESDAY, JULY 17, 2001 Italian Heritage Day at Kennywood Amusement park, Pittsburgh, PA &&&&&&&&&&& &&&&&&&&&&&&& TUESDAY, JULY 17, 2001 at 7 P.M. North Hills Genealogists will hold its regular third-Tuesday meeting at the Northland Public Library, 300 Cumberland Road, (McCandless Township), Pittsburgh, PA 15237 "WERE YOUR ANCESTORS CITIZENS? A LOOK AT NATURALIZATION", by Ms. Lesle Dunn . Where your immigrant ancestors citizens? Lesle Dunn will discuss reasons for why your immigrant ancestors may or may not have become citizens of this country. She will provide a look at the Naturalization process and its changes over the years, describe the records it has generated, and direct us to where those records may be found. Ms. Dunn is the Head of Techical Services for Shaler North Hills Library and has been involved in genealogy for over 30 years. A past president of the Western Pennsylvania Genealogical Society, she has been WPGS library chairperson for a "long time" and is responsible for the online WPGS catalog. The meeting is free and open to the public. North Hills Genealogists meets every month on the third Tuesday at the Northland Public Library. A newsletter is available for a subscription of $12. ($10 if postmarked by July 31.) Free queries and subscriptions can be sent to the address above. Sorry we cannot mail handouts if there are any. &&&&&&&&&&& &&&&&&&&&&&&& TUESDAY, August 21 at 7 p.m. THE ETHNIC EXPERIENCE IN LAWRENCEVILLE by James Wudarczyk In his talk Mr. Wudarczyk will illustrate how the various ethnic groups were instrumental in shaping the Lawrenceville community. Injecting amusing stories, he will show how one Pittsburgh neighborhood reflected national trends. Since many families in the Greater Pittsburgh Metropolitan area can trace their roots to the historic community of Lawrenceville, the lecture will also focus on available resources for genealogical research and address what the historic communities must do to preserve the records of the past. The presentation will also trace the area from a struggling village in a rural area in 1826 with a population of 200 to a metropolitan community in 1900 with between 30,000 and 33,000 residents. While historical events will be mixed into the lecture, most of the talk will focus on how the English, Irish, Swedes, Germans, Polish, Solvenians and other ethnic groups built churches, fraternal organizations and founded newspapers. Also, the heyday of ethnicity prior to WW II will be discussed, as will be causes that led to the decline of ethnic identification in more recent times. Exhibits will supplement the presentation. Sorry we cannot mail handouts if there are any. Mr. Wudarczyk is author of the book PITTSBURGH'S FORGOTTEN ALLEGHENY ARSENAL, co-author of the book MONSTER ON THE ALLEGHENY AND OTHER LAWRENCEVILLE STORIES and author of the booklet HISTORICAL SITES AND LOST LANDMARKS OF LAWRENCEVILLE'S SIXTH WARD. His articles have appeared in the WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA HISTORICAL MAGAZINE, PITTSBURGH HISTORY AND LANDMARKS FOUNDATION NEWSLETTER, and many small publications and newsletters. He is a frequent lecturer and has designed several tours of the Lawrenceville area. &&&&&&&&&&& &&&&&&&&&&&&& SATURDAY, September 1, 2001 at 10 a.m. to noon POINTERs in Pittsburgh meeting: Anyone interested in their Italian roots is welcome to come held at the Allegheny Intermediate Unit, 1400 Penn Avenue, Suite 201, Pittsburgh, PA 15222-4332. For more information, email [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Thanks Susan

Yes, I got response: and the Ezra Kelley death date was not the one I was seeking. Since I posted that one, I now need a lookup for a Lafayette Twp Cemetery. I'm looking for the name of my ancestor - father of my gr gr grandfather, Lemuel Wm Kelley, born 1820 Hamburg, NY; died 1888 and is buried at Bennett's Corners Cemetery. Lemuel kept a daily journal (1876-1885). He entered on May 23, 1879 ".....father died today". No other mention is made of his parents in all the years he kept the journal. However, I discovered recently that he entered one day in 1876 that he "....went to Lafayette today". He recorded all his comings and goings each day; and Lafayette was not one of the places he usually visited. Could it be that's where his father died? I would appreciate it immensely if you can check the cemeteries at Lafayette or anywhere in Medina County for any Kelley/Kelly who died May 23, 1879. Possibly it was at a County Home or Alms House? Lyde

Did you get a response on this lookup request? If not, let me know and I can look this up for you.

Does anyone know of anyone who might know how to locate records on where someone was buried??? Someone at the Harris twp. garage said one of the caretakers a few years ago burned them. The person I am trying to locate died out of state and was buried with no ceremony. So the funeral homes in lodi don't have any records. (even of the long ago closed funeral homes) Please help. Thanks denise

Minerva, is considered to be in Stark County, Ohio. But it is bordering Carroll County as well as Mahoning County.

I will do research for a nominal fee at the Medina Courthouse and Library. Please contact me for more information. Sandra Mitchell-Quinn http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohathens webmaster of Athens county on OHGenWeb

There is a Minerva in Stark County...also Minerva Park in Franklin County and Minerva Junction in Carroll County. Here is the URL for my favorite placename site: http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo Lyde