This is interesting topic for me as I just submitted for FF of Lorain Co. and am new member of DAR. Why join either? Pride that my ancestors were involved in early development of an area or event, and it is a way to honor their accomplishments. DAR is also a service organization as well as social organization. Basicially, DAR presents programs both to members and out in the community that stress citizenship values, educate about local and national history and preservation topics, and encourage volunteerism and service to the community. Specific projects are adopted to carry-out these focus areas. We know we have reputation for being elderly group of women, doing genteel things, but we are changing. Our chapter has wide age range from young 30s with children on up, and members in diverse occupations. Sarah