Dear OHLORAIN Listers, I like puzzles. I googled "N O D cemetery." Under Ramkin Cemetery there are two columns for "birth" and "death." Where a date (here the date of death) is missing the abbreviation "n.o.d." appears. It would seem to confirm the conjecture "no other date" to be the translation for "N O D" or its variations. Other cemetery websites under the same google search would also appear to confirm this. Virginia Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: <ohlorain-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:20 PM Subject: OHLORAIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 31 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NOD on a gravemarker (Sande) > 2. Re: NOD on a gravemarker (Yolanda Campbell Lifter) > 3. Re: NOD on a gravemarker (Cheryl Bakker) > 4. Re: NOD on a gravemarker (David Statler) > 5. Re: NOD on a gravemarker (Sande) > 6. Re: NOD on a gravemarker (Sande) > 7. Re: NOD on a gravemarker (Cheryl Bakker) > 8. Name Puzzel (Ken) > 9. Re: Name Puzzel (Patricia Mcmackin) > 10. Re: Name Puzzel (Sande) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:52:41 -0800 (PST) > From: Sande <aunt_sande@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > To: ohlorain@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <874026.87282.qm@web62507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Actually it was not on the headstone but on the cemetery records. I have > been searching the internet on this but have come up short. I guess I > could call and ask a cemetery caretaker...maybe he/she will know. > > Peace, > Sande > > Shirley Hunt <shirleyjimbo2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Did you ever find an answer to this question? > I have been asking all of my genealogy and historical society friends if > they ever heard of NOD on a headstone. The questions they asked were: > What was the time period or date this is listed (only 1930)? > Where on the headstone was the NOD listed (on top of name, after the > date?) > What part of the country or state are these graves? > Please let me know if you got an answer or know the answers to my > questions concerning the NOD > My first thought was the the OD part is "of death", like TOD is "Time of > death" > Thanks, > Shirley Hunt > > Sande wrote: > Has anyone encountered the letters NOD on a headstone or in the cemetery > records? Do you know what the initials mean? Someone sent me pics of the > headstones of some ancestors and the deed to the same plots, dated 1930. > What I am wondering is...does this maybe mean that the person is not > buried there or not dead yet? Or.... what does it mean? When I looked at > the cemetery map there were no other plots that had that on them, except > the ones for my distant family members. > > Thanks in advance, > Sande > > > Please support me in my walk to find a cure for Cystic Fibrosis > http://www.cff.org/Great_Strides/AlecsandraBihlmaier > > As far as our love flows; as far as our hope grows; as far as our yearning > goes; -- we are no farther one from another. ~ L. Annie Foerster > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Shirley > > > --------------------------------- > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! 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Small Business. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:23:21 -0500 > From: "Yolanda Campbell Lifter" <ylifter@ohiofamilyresearch.com> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <250901c73b25$5c9229a0$6801a8c0@NotebookYolanda> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > If it was in the cemetery records only, it could possibly mean "no other > data." > > > Yolanda Campbell Lifter > Malabar, FL > member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://apgen.org > > Ohio Family Research http://ohiofamilyresearch.com > OH Genealogy http://ohgenealogy.com > > county coordinator, Brown County, OHGenWeb > http://ohgenealogy.com/brownco > county coordinator, Pike County, OHGenWeb http://ohgenealogy.com/pikeco > county coordinator, New Castle County, DEGenWeb > http://ohgenealogy.com/newcastleco > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sande" <aunt_sande@yahoo.com> > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:52 AM > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > > >> Actually it was not on the headstone but on the cemetery records. I have >> been searching the internet on this but have come up short. I guess I >> could call and ask a cemetery caretaker...maybe he/she will know. >> >> Peace, >> Sande >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:10:32 -0500 > From: "Cheryl Bakker" <bchef@xtalwind.net> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002c01c73b45$1a822ef0$65f2a0cd@Familyroom> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > That sounds like a good possibility. Or - if it was on the cemetery > records > only, could it be "Name on Deed" meaning that this person owned the plot? > > The plot ( no pun intended) thickens! > > Cheryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yolanda Campbell Lifter" <ylifter@ohiofamilyresearch.com> > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > > >> If it was in the cemetery records only, it could possibly mean "no other >> data." >> >> >> Yolanda Campbell Lifter >> Malabar, FL >> member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://apgen.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:20:05 -0600 > From: David Statler <dstatler@mail.mo.gov> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > To: ohlorain@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45AFE485.4050301@mail.mo.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Doing some Google searching, NOD always appeared if there is no death > date listed on the headstone. > Just another piece of the puzzle. Probably means NO Death date or > something like that. > > David Statler > > > Cheryl Bakker wrote: > >>That sounds like a good possibility. Or - if it was on the cemetery >>records >>only, could it be "Name on Deed" meaning that this person owned the plot? >> >>The plot ( no pun intended) thickens! >> >>Cheryl >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Yolanda Campbell Lifter" <ylifter@ohiofamilyresearch.com> >>To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:23 PM >>Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker >> >> >> >> >>>If it was in the cemetery records only, it could possibly mean "no other >>>data." >>> >>> >>>Yolanda Campbell Lifter >>>Malabar, FL >>>member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://apgen.org >>> >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:05:29 -0800 (PST) > From: Sande <aunt_sande@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > To: ohlorain@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <437799.71889.qm@web62507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Ah yeah, hadn't thought of that! I also saw it on another cemetery > records document, so it could possibly be that. > > Sande > > Yolanda Campbell Lifter <ylifter@ohiofamilyresearch.com> wrote: > If it was in the cemetery records only, it could possibly mean "no other > data." > > > Yolanda Campbell Lifter > Malabar, FL > member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://apgen.org > > Ohio Family Research http://ohiofamilyresearch.com > OH Genealogy http://ohgenealogy.com > > county coordinator, Brown County, OHGenWeb http://ohgenealogy.com/brownco > county coordinator, Pike County, OHGenWeb http://ohgenealogy.com/pikeco > county coordinator, New Castle County, DEGenWeb > http://ohgenealogy.com/newcastleco > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sande" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:52 AM > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > > >> Actually it was not on the headstone but on the cemetery records. I have >> been searching the internet on this but have come up short. I guess I >> could call and ask a cemetery caretaker...maybe he/she will know. >> >> Peace, >> Sande >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please support me in my walk to find a cure for Cystic Fibrosis > http://www.cff.org/Great_Strides/AlecsandraBihlmaier > > As far as our love flows; as far as our hope grows; as far as our > yearning goes; -- we are no farther one from another. ~ L. Annie Foerster > > > > > --------------------------------- > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:30:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Sande <aunt_sande@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > To: ohlorain@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <433637.15873.qm@web62508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > The Name on Deed does not work as the records were for others than the > owners of the plots. > > Sande > > Cheryl Bakker <bchef@xtalwind.net> wrote: > That sounds like a good possibility. Or - if it was on the cemetery > records > only, could it be "Name on Deed" meaning that this person owned the plot? > > The plot ( no pun intended) thickens! > > Cheryl > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yolanda Campbell Lifter" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > > >> If it was in the cemetery records only, it could possibly mean "no other >> data." >> >> >> Yolanda Campbell Lifter >> Malabar, FL >> member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://apgen.org > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please support me in my walk to find a cure for Cystic Fibrosis > http://www.cff.org/Great_Strides/AlecsandraBihlmaier > > As far as our love flows; as far as our hope grows; as far as our > yearning goes; -- we are no farther one from another. ~ L. Annie Foerster > > > > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 21:03:17 -0500 > From: "Cheryl Bakker" <bchef@xtalwind.net> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000801c73b6e$00238e40$95f2a0cd@Familyroom> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Sande, > > I just checked the online word list for German Genealogy at Family Search > (LDS), in the hopes that something would click -- it didn't. Also checked > for Latin words that might match. Nada. I checked Croom's "Unpuzzeling > Your > Past" with no good results. I think that, if there were a prize for > "brick > wall" questions, yours would take it! > > Hopefully, someone who checks this list will find something. I will keep > looking - this is a very interesting topic. > > Cheryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sande" <aunt_sande@yahoo.com> > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] NOD on a gravemarker > > >> The Name on Deed does not work as the records were for others than the >> owners of the plots. >> >> Sande > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:34:31 -0800 > From: "Ken" <kennethgooden@cox.net> > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Name Puzzel > To: "gene mail list Elyria" <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000c01c73b7a$bc003e90$8fa10644@youro0kwkw9jwc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am trying to make a family Group sheet for my Step Son. The whole family > call my step son "Tri" because his is the third Emery Carl > Hi father was emery Carl the second. OK > > Today I get a 1920 census.. My step son Grandfather is listed as "Carl E" > and his son was "Carl D". Carl D was 4 years old at 1920 census. Where > did this Emery Carl Business come from? As far as I can see if it was not > on the census its not legal. > > What name do I use on The Family Group Sheet? They didn't change their > last name. I know I have the right name on the census. > Its the right town the mother's name is correct and the sister's name is > right and the youngest which is all correct. Ken > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:47:16 -0500 > From: "Patricia Mcmackin" <treetracer@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Name Puzzel > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <200701190347.l0J3lOYi005559@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Ken, > > I would believe the family and not the census records. The census taker > could have thought they said "D" instead of "E" - they both sound > similar. > And the Grandfather was probably Emery Carl and went by Carl. A lot of my > ancestors would change, using the 1st name on one census and their middle > name on the next and then going back to the fist name. Others would > reverse > the order or their initials. No wonder we have such a hard time finding > them. > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohlorain-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohlorain-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ken > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:35 PM > To: gene mail list Elyria > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Name Puzzel > > I am trying to make a family Group sheet for my Step Son. The whole family > call my step son "Tri" because his is the third Emery Carl > Hi father was emery Carl the second. OK > > Today I get a 1920 census.. My step son Grandfather is listed as "Carl E" > and his son was "Carl D". Carl D was 4 years old at 1920 census. Where > did > this Emery Carl Business come from? As far as I can see if it was not on > the > census its not legal. > > What name do I use on The Family Group Sheet? They didn't change their > last name. I know I have the right name on the census. > Its the right town the mother's name is correct and the sister's name is > right and the youngest which is all correct. Ken > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:19:29 -0800 (PST) > From: Sande <aunt_sande@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Name Puzzel > To: ohlorain@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <102758.51520.qm@web62512.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Yep, that is something that happened a lot. My grandmother's name for > instance. She is either Rose Eunice or Eunice Rose and our family is > split on it. On her marriage license it says Eunice Rose, but my aunts > insist it is legally Rose Eunice. On the different censuses she is listed > both ways. She went by Rose and my dad always said she went by her middle > name so I beleive it to be Eunice Rose. Then, of course, is her father, > who has been known as Edward Collier, Collier Edward, E. Collier and just > plain Collier, and one of my 2rd gr uncles says it is E Colwert in his > genealogy book! Since he was born before birth certificates were required > I have no way of finding out for sure. He is buried as Edward C. > > Sande > > Patricia Mcmackin <treetracer@comcast.net> wrote: > > Ken, > > I would believe the family and not the census records. The census taker > could have thought they said "D" instead of "E" - they both sound similar. > And the Grandfather was probably Emery Carl and went by Carl. A lot of my > ancestors would change, using the 1st name on one census and their middle > name on the next and then going back to the fist name. Others would > reverse > the order or their initials. No wonder we have such a hard time finding > them. > > Pat > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohlorain-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohlorain-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ken > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:35 PM > To: gene mail list Elyria > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Name Puzzel > > I am trying to make a family Group sheet for my Step Son. The whole family > call my step son "Tri" because his is the third Emery Carl > Hi father was emery Carl the second. OK > > Today I get a 1920 census.. My step son Grandfather is listed as "Carl E" > and his son was "Carl D". Carl D was 4 years old at 1920 census. Where did > this Emery Carl Business come from? As far as I can see if it was not on > the > census its not legal. > > What name do I use on The Family Group Sheet? They didn't change their > last name. I know I have the right name on the census. > Its the right town the mother's name is correct and the sister's name is > right and the youngest which is all correct. 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