Cheryl - I also was in 4H in Lorain County - with the LaGrange group - no livestock - just sewing and cooking. I also live in Florida ( can't say it is an improvement..). I was back in Lorain Co. (Elyria) about 3 years ago - MANY changes! But I loved the help from the Library personnel and the Court House - can't say as the people here are as cooperative and willing to help. Good luck with your searches! On Wednesday, January 10, 2007, at 01:14 PM, Cheryl Bakker wrote: > Patricia, > No, I lived in Lorain and graduated from Admiral King in 66. But I > knew a > lot of people from all over the county because of being in 4-H, Jr. > Leadership, and on the Jr. Fair Board. Many of the names I've > forgotten - > talk about senior moments! :~) > > I've been away from Lorain County since the late 60's, and only back > briefly > since. Now I live in Florida, and haven't had an opportunity to go > "home" in > 14 years. But I'm hoping that will change this year. > > Cheryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia LeConte" <mleconte@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:40 AM > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] To Shirley: Black River Church of the Brethren > > >> Cheryl - did you go to Keystone H.S.? I remember that tornado - I was >> a Senior at KHS in 65 and your name sounds familiar... I also remember >> school buses collecting students who wanted to help clean the fields >> as >> it was just before planting time. We had no school for a couple of >> days. The tornado went just past a friend's house on Diagonal Rd. and >> wiped out their neighbor's home, but didn't touch theirs. >> Pat >> On Tuesday, January 9, 2007, at 08:21 AM, Cheryl Bakker wrote: >> >>> Just a thought about Penfield -- wasn't that the site of one of the >>> hits by >>> the Palm Sunday tornado back around 1965? I was in high school, and >>> my 4-H >>> club volunteered to help with the cleanup. We were helping in >>> Grafton, but >>> my friend Judy lived in Penfield (or maybe Penfield Juction - are >>> they >>> the >>> same?), I believe. (Having a brain-freeze here!) Her father was >>> killed, >>> mother severely injured, and her dog pulled her out of the rubble. >>> All that >>> was left standing for miles was the statue. I can't remember any >>> more >>> than >>> that, but it could be why things don't look the same. >>> >>> Cheryl >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <martin.abba@juno.com> >>> To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:15 AM >>> Subject: [OHLORAIN] To Shirley: Black River Church of the Brethren >>> >>> >>>> Hi Shirley, >>>> >>>> I think my gg grandparents lived on Smith Rd. in Penfield from the >>>> late 1840s until their deaths just a few weeks apart in 1903. It >>>> sounds as if your family's farm was very near Penfield Cemetery on >>>> Rt. 18 where my gg grandparents are buried, but they were probably >>>> not alive by the time your family lived there. I hope very much >>>> that >>>> others will have information about your family. Nancy Myers, who >>>> lived in Penfield for awhile, has a wealth of information about the >>>> area, and I see she has contacted you. >>>> >>>> Every generation of our family since my ggg grandmother is buried in >>>> Penfield Cemetery. We just buried our mother there 15 months ago. >>>> In the 70's we got to see the farm in Penfield where our gg >>>> grandparents raised their thirteen children. I tried to find it a >>>> few years ago, but couldn't. Don't know if it's gone or if I was >>>> turned around in my directions and missed it. >>>> >>>> Good luck in your search for information and cousins! >>>> >>>> Cathy >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Shirley Hunt <shirleyjimbo2000@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> My grandfather's sister Eliza Gow Bobel and her husband Phillip >>>> lived >>>> on Route 18 on a farm about a mile east of Rt 301. Their son and >>>> his >>>> family also lived on that farm during the 1940's and 50's possibly >>>> earlier. >>>> The William Phelps Boise (wife Lydia Loring Severcool) family lived >>>> on Jones road (I think) in the 1880's? >>>> My grandfather Earl C. Gow (wife Josephine Boise) and his brother >>>> Walter lived on farms about a mile south of LaGrange on Rt.301 in >>>> the >>>> 1920's and into 1930's. >>>> I am not sure about the Opfer family, other than them being in >>>> LaGrange in the 1880s. >>>> Any insite into these families would be great! >>>> Thanks >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> "martin.abba@juno.com" <martin.abba@juno.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Shirley, >>>> >>>> I don't know of any connections to these families. Do you, Carole? >>>> Shirley, when did they live in Penfield? >>>> >>>> Cathy >>>> >>>> -- Shirley Hunt wrote: >>>> This is such a sad story to hear about the fire. >>>> I have a lot of ties to the Penfield area with surnames Bobel, >>>> Boise, Gow, Opfer, and Severcool. Does anyone have connections to >>>> these families? >>>> Shirley Hunt >>>> >>>> "martin.abba@juno.com" wrote: >>>> Thank you, Carole and thank you Jane Cahl for the articles you >>>> sent. >>>> Jane is one of my Amherst classmates and, for those of you who don't >>>> know, Carole is my third cousin once removed. We have old photos of >>>> my gg grandparents and ggg grandparents (Carole's gg grandparents). >>>> In the photos, our ancestors are dressed in Brethren garb very much >>>> like the Amish. At that time, Church of the Brethren was called >>>> German Baptist Brethren. It is one of three historic peace churches >>>> and, like the Amish, they believe in living simply with strong >>>> emphasis on community. Once I clocked the distance from my gg >>>> grandparents' farm in Penfield to the church in Chatham. Thirteen >>>> miles -- quite a distance to go by buggy and the Brethren spent a >>>> lot >>>> of time in church! I've wondered how they managed -- one buggy >>>> wouldn't have been enough for the thirteen children in my gg >>>> grandparents' family (it's easy to see why Carole and I have lots of >>>> cousins in Lorain, Medina and Wayne Counties)! Those thirteen >>>> children must have very sleepy on the buggy rides home -- especially >>>> on the days the Brethren had their love feasts after their services. >>>> Carole's great grandfather and my gg grandfather were brothers and >>>> lived and worked together on adjoining farms in Penfield. They had >>>> come from Wayne County where our Pennsylvania Dutch ancestors had >>>> pioneered. The Neff side of our family were Mennonites who became >>>> Brethren and married into the Lutheran Dague side of our family -- >>>> all becoming Brethren. The Neffs were Swiss who moved to the Rhine >>>> area of Germany, probably because of religious persecution. From >>>> Germany, they immigrated to Philadelphia in 1717. >>>> >>>> Carole, would you like me to send you the articles that Jane sent? I >>>> learned of the fire from John Shafer, member of a Brethren church in >>>> VA. We had corresponded years ago because of his relationship to our >>>> Neff/Schweinhardt family. As one of our family historians, you would >>>> probably like to be in touch with him. I will send you his address >>>> privately. >>>> >>>> Cathy >>>> >>>> -- "Carole J. Schetter" wrote: >>>> There is information on the Christmas Eve fire in the Plain Dealer >>>> and on >>>> the Brethren Daily News list. I found them by "googling." What a >>>> tragedy. >>>> My ancestor, John Willis White was one of the founders of the >>>> church. >>>> >>>> Carole Schetter >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN- >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>>> __ >>>> __ >>>> FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com >>>> Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! >>>> http://track.juno.com/s/lc? >>>> s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/ >>>> online_calendar.p >>>> d >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN- >>>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Shirley >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>> Tired of spam? 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