`Hi, I checked out this site. While good, it didn't have the information I was hoping for. I have tried looking elsewhere, but I don't find the answers I want. In my situation, my Mom's sister (and the rest of the family) emigrated from England in 1911. On Oct. 11, 1923, Aunt Con married and American. Mom told me that the laws at the time said Con would have U. S. Citizenship because she married the American. However, with the onset of WWII, that changed and for the rest of her life, Aunt Con had to go to the P.O. and fill out a form every January. That's the story anyway. Very confusing. Anyone know anything about this? The sad part is that shortly after her arrival in the U.S., she walked to the top of a hill, threw her arms in the air and cried, "I'm free! I'm free." In those early years in Ohio, my beautiful red haired Aunt marched in the parades for the women's right to vote, and gave speeches in support of that. It must have hurt to later have to register every year. Also, does anyone have any suggestions for flattening 40 -50 year old photos that have curled? Would love ideas on this. Thank you, Carolyn in Vermont Patricia wrote: > The site below has some immigration history. If you "google" the specific info you want, like, immigration women and the years, you might end up with more specific information. Remember that women were considered "property" and didn't start to have freedom until they got the right to vote, 1920. > > http://www.visa2003.com/world-immigration/us-history.htm > > What a change 50+ years make. Now the men want American women as a fast way to citizenship. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

My wife's parents were English Citizens and my wife was American born. They didn't take out citizenship because they intended to return to England. When the war stared to look it was a good probity it would happen they decided to become citizens before my wife was 16 she would automatically become a US Citizen. I could be wrong , but if her parents hadn't become US citizens,she would have had dual citizenship. Ken

Hi, Sorry this first site didn't answer your questions. Here's the government sites, all 65 pages of Naturalization Law: http://www.uscis.gov. From what I'm reading, marriage to a citizen does not an automatic citizen make of the spouse. There are residency requirements, but they didn't seem to apply to female spouses. Here's another site that is written with the genealogist in mind: http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/naturalization/naturalization.html This may be the site to begin with. Are you sure the fellow she married was a citizen? Also, in 1917-1924 immigration laws were passed that limited the number of new immigrants. They established a quota system, and impossed requirements. They expanded the categories of excluded aliens and banned all Asians except the Japanese. Unfortunatley, your aunt may have just been caught in the web of changing laws. Hope this helps. Also, to the lady who wrote that her female relative lost her US citizenship when she married an alien, this was a matter of law, unfair or not. The law said approximately, that any woman marrying a man "who was not eligible for citizenship", would loose her citizenship... Happy Reading,' Patricia Carolyn <cstrothermurray@comcast.net> wrote: `Hi, I checked out this site. While good, it didn't have the information I was hoping for. I have tried looking elsewhere, but I don't find the answers I want. In my situation, my Mom's sister (and the rest of the family) emigrated from England in 1911. On Oct. 11, 1923, Aunt Con married and American. Mom told me that the laws at the time said Con would have U. S. Citizenship because she married the American. However, with the onset of WWII, that changed and for the rest of her life, Aunt Con had to go to the P.O. and fill out a form every January. That's the story anyway. Very confusing. Anyone know anything about this? The sad part is that shortly after her arrival in the U.S., she walked to the top of a hill, threw her arms in the air and cried, "I'm free! I'm free." In those early years in Ohio, my beautiful red haired Aunt marched in the parades for the women's right to vote, and gave speeches in support of that. It must have hurt to later have to register every year. Also, does anyone have any suggestions for flattening 40 -50 year old photos that have curled? Would love ideas on this. Thank you, Carolyn in Vermont Patricia wrote: > The site below has some immigration history. If you "google" the specific info you want, like, immigration women and the years, you might end up with more specific information. Remember that women were considered "property" and didn't start to have freedom until they got the right to vote, 1920. > > http://www.visa2003.com/world-immigration/us-history.htm > > What a change 50+ years make. Now the men want American women as a fast way to citizenship. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Patricia - I'll check it out. How was your trip down here? Unfortunately, the weather turned cooler (for us) the week you were here. On Saturday, April 7, 2007, at 02:36 PM, Patricia wrote: > The site below has some immigration history. If you "google" the > specific info you want, like, immigration women and the years, you > might end up with more specific information. Remember that women were > considered "property" and didn't start to have freedom until they got > the right to vote, 1920. > > http://www.visa2003.com/world-immigration/us-history.htm > > What a change 50+ years make. Now the men want American women as a > fast way to citizenship. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My situation is the opposite - my grandmother did not lose US citizenship - she gained it by marrying a US citizen as she was British. On Saturday, April 7, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Alikat42@aol.com wrote: > Boy! Losing your American citizenship rights because you marry an > immigrant! How long did this go on? It just doesn't sound fair or > right to me.....I > never knew this. > > Alice > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Virginia - I have the opposite situation. My grandmother was from England. She married my grandfather here in the states, he was a US citizen. They were married in 1912 so I believe she got citizenship through him. I would like to get her papers so I could trace family in Eng. Thanks for your input. Pat in Florida! On Saturday, April 7, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Virginia Ventrone wrote: > Hi Pat, > This is Virinia in Akron Ohio. My Mother was born in Somerset PA IN > 1902 and married my Dad in 1920. He came from Maddaloni Italy in 1910. > When she married my Dad she lost all her American rights and had to go > to court to get her rights back I have her papers from the court but I > could not fine it on the Akron Court site. > > Virginia > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia LeConte<mailto:mleconte@tampabay.rr.com> > To: Ohlorain@rootsweb.com<mailto:Ohlorain@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:41 AM > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Naturalization question > > > Does anyone know... I know that during a certain period of time in > the 1900's a woman who married an American citizen automatically > became > naturalized. My question is - did the woman have to fill out any > papers/application for citizenship and if so, where would those files > be kept - locally or at the Federal Archives? > > Thanks for any help! > > Pat LeConte > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Boy! Losing your American citizenship rights because you marry an immigrant! How long did this go on? It just doesn't sound fair or right to me.....I never knew this. Alice ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Does anyone know... I know that during a certain period of time in the 1900's a woman who married an American citizen automatically became naturalized. My question is - did the woman have to fill out any papers/application for citizenship and if so, where would those files be kept - locally or at the Federal Archives? Thanks for any help! Pat LeConte

The site below has some immigration history. If you "google" the specific info you want, like, immigration women and the years, you might end up with more specific information. Remember that women were considered "property" and didn't start to have freedom until they got the right to vote, 1920. http://www.visa2003.com/world-immigration/us-history.htm What a change 50+ years make. Now the men want American women as a fast way to citizenship.

Hi Pat, This is Virinia in Akron Ohio. My Mother was born in Somerset PA IN 1902 and married my Dad in 1920. He came from Maddaloni Italy in 1910. When she married my Dad she lost all her American rights and had to go to court to get her rights back I have her papers from the court but I could not fine it on the Akron Court site. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia LeConte<mailto:mleconte@tampabay.rr.com> To: Ohlorain@rootsweb.com<mailto:Ohlorain@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Naturalization question Does anyone know... I know that during a certain period of time in the 1900's a woman who married an American citizen automatically became naturalized. My question is - did the woman have to fill out any papers/application for citizenship and if so, where would those files be kept - locally or at the Federal Archives? Thanks for any help! Pat LeConte ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if it was just the women who lost their American citizenship rights! If the American men could marry an immigrant and retain their American citizenship rights---now That would be unfair!!! Alikat42@aol.com wrote: Boy! Losing your American citizenship rights because you marry an immigrant! How long did this go on? It just doesn't sound fair or right to me.....I never knew this. Alice ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

Wow! Those were really cool. I think I could spend all day there looking at postcards. Sande Audrey Perkins <ahperkins@sbcglobal.net> wrote: What did your town look like according to Penny Postcards. Check out your old stomping grounds during the times of the penny postcard. Click on the state and then on the county to see old penny postcards from that area.....pretty neat. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/ppcs/ppcs.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please support me in my walk to find a cure for Cystic Fibrosis http://www.cff.org/Great_Strides/AlecsandraBihlmaier "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking." ~ Unknown ~ --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

What did your town look like according to Penny Postcards. Check out your old stomping grounds during the times of the penny postcard. Click on the state and then on the county to see old penny postcards from that area.....pretty neat. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/ppcs/ppcs.html

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"Charleston Cemetery; a Look into Charleston's Past" will the  featured program presented by Diane Wargo Medina to the Lorain County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society on Monday, April 9, 2007 at the North Ridgeville Public Library, 35700 Bainbridge Road, North Ridgeville, OH. Diane Medina will relate the fascinating story of how her teenage curiosity of an all-but-forgotten cemetery near downtown Lorain lead to her life long project of restoring  this sadly neglected but historic cemetery. Diane's dedication has lead to the discovery of long buried tombstones, the gravesites of two of Charleston Villages' founding fathers, and the pursuit of family genealogies of the cemetery residents. Diane's work has lead to the elevation of the forgotten Charleston Pioneer Cemetery to Landmark Status by the Preservation Network of Lorain County.  Come join us to hear this remarkable story of one woman's commitment to preserving an important element of a town's heritage. Social Time is 6:30 pm; program and a general meeting at 7:00 pm. The public is invited to attend this free program.  For information about this program or about the Lorain County Chapter of OGS, contact Jean at atmmom1@aol.com or John at jaearley@erienet.net Thank you. Respectfully submitted, Jean Copeland, VP Lorain County Chapter of OGS ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

"Charleston Cemetery; a Look into Charleston's Past" will the  featured program presented by Diane Wargo Medina to the Lorain County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society on Monday, April 9, 2007 at the North Ridgeville Public Library, 35700 Bainbridge Road, North Ridgeville, OH. Diane Medina will relate the fascinating story of how her teenage curiosity of an all-but-forgotten cemetery near downtown Lorain lead to her life long project of restoring  this sadly neglected but historic cemetery. Diane's dedication has lead to the discovery of long buried tombstones, the gravesites of two of Charleston Villages' founding fathers, and the pursuit of family genealogies of the cemetery residents. Diane's work has lead to the elevation of the forgotten Charleston Pioneer Cemetery to Landmark Status by the Preservation Network of Lorain County.  Come join us to hear this remarkable story of one woman's commitment to preserving an important element of a town's heritage. Social Time is 6:30 pm; program and a general meeting at 7:00 pm. The public is invited to attend this free program.  For information about this program or about the Lorain County Chapter of OGS, contact Jean at 440-949-5167 or John at 440-933-9078. Thank you. Respectfully submitted, Jean Copeland, VP Lorain County Chapter of OGS ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

That is a great site. I found 3 of my family members there. None of them directly linked to me, but they were brothers or cousins to my gg grandfather. Two of them (cousins) served in the same Regiment, so it looks like they may have gone in together to sign up. I will have to explore that site more and check other lines in my family. Sande Lilly Martin <malik@scs-net.org> wrote: Hello, There is a lovely website which has been done by the National Park Service. However, not long ago someone told me that the website address was changed to: http://www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/ Please support me in my walk to find a cure for Cystic Fibrosis http://www.cff.org/Great_Strides/AlecsandraBihlmaier "Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking." ~ Unknown ~ --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

Hello, There is a lovely website which has been done by the National Park Service. The website used to always be here: http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm However, not long ago someone told me that the website address was changed to: http://www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/ Try the last one first. This website covers both Union and Confederate. You can search by full name, or just the surname. This website is wonderful, you can easily spend the day looking for all your Civil War time frame ancestors and relatives. The second way to search, would be to visit the website of the county you knew they lived in, and search to see if the have listed the name of the Troop or Regiment they had located there. Then looking on www.google.com to find a roster listing of those soldiers names. Many men did not enlist in their own home area, but for several reasons they went away to enlist. Some men from the South went away to enlist in Union Army, and the opposite happened as well. 1890 there was a Civil War Veterans widow's census. I think I have that correctly. This census survived as I recall. If your ancestor was dead by then, but had left a living widow, her name could be on the census, and the regiment might be noted there? Also, you could google.com search for the ancestors name, and the words Civil War Roster, in case his name would be listed. For example: "John Smith" Civil War Roster, if you knew the STATE you could add that to be more specific in the search. Also, don't forget about the PUBLIC Library, which probably has a book or many which have lists of the soldiers for a particular county, or state, or area, or regiment. This would be another was to check. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: <Alikat42@aol.com> To: <ohlorain@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Soldier Index Card >I have to ask a really dumb question....how do you find out if a family > member was in the Civil War? Is there a list you can check of names??? > > Thank you > > Alice > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLORAIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >