Just a slight correction, a knot is a unit of speed, not distance. One knot is one nautical mile per hour. Officially the international nautical mile (nm) is exactly 1.852 km. A nautical mile is the apx. length of one minute of arc along the earth's surface. So, one degree of arc, for example along the equator, is apx. 60 nm (but actually a little more). Ships and airplane regularly use knots & nautical miles.

It was very early this morning that I wrote my answer and I hope you mathematicians caught the error I made. Yes, a knot is a term in nautical mileage, and, yes, it is the same length as a nautical mile. The length of the nautical mile, or knot, is 6,076.10 feet. I had inadvertently put a period after both of the sixes. The punction mark after the first six should be a comma and NOT a period. If you've ever been out to sea on an ocean liner, you are told daily how fast the ship is traveling, and this is almost always in knots per hour. A common speed seems to be about 20 knots per hour. Jennie Vertrees backwood@grm.net

A knot is a nautical term of mileage. One knot is also a nautical mile or 6.076.10 feet in length. Jennie Vertrees ----- Original Message ----- From: <OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <OHLORAIN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: OHLORAIN-D Digest V01 #197

Thanks, things have changed since I tried to unsub. from newsletter: husband in hosp. trip cancelled. Names being researched in Canada: Kemp/Camp, Potts Names being researched in England: Broadworth/Broadwith, Brown, Dunning, Key & Potts Names being researched in MD. & DE. Bevins & Layton Names being researched in NY. Sweet & Vasberry/Vasburgh Names being researched in OH. Bevins, Huddleston, Kahow, Lane, Layton, Odor, Potts, Rudasill, Sigsworth, Story, Sweet & Wallace Names being researched in PA. Huddleston, Rudisill & Weigerlin Names being researched in VA. Baughan/Vaughan, Jones, Odor, Parks, Rudasill, Summerville, Stringfellow

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C13DC5.FA54D600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C13DC5.FA54D600 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="[NYDELAWA-L] Proud Americans.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="[NYDELAWA-L] Proud Americans.eml" Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by nova.rglobal.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04955 for <cfisher@rglobal.net>; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 04:11:06 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f8FB6XU06452; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:06:33 -0600 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:06:33 -0600 X-Original-Sender: BCa10ts@aol.com Sat Sep 15 05:06:31 2001 From: BCa10ts@aol.com Message-ID: <95.105acc64.28d49022@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 07:06:10 EDT Old-To: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Subject: [NYDELAWA-L] Proud Americans Resent-Message-ID: <2q0ErD.A.bkB.4Yzo7@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10429 X-Loop: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NYDELAWA-L-request@rootsweb.com I realize this is not directly related to the list and is rather long, but thought perhaps it was appropriate at this time. 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I don't know for certain but I have seen a wooden yarn winder that had four arms that held the yarn after it was spun...one wind around was two yards and forty turns was a "knot"....I suppose this COULD be related to the nautical term but I am not able to verify that either. I was told that 20 knots in a day was a good days worth of spinning and that once you removed the "knot" from the winder it would fold in on itself in a manageable twist....think of a "skein" of yarn today.

You were and are truly blessed, as you know! Your family is alive. Someone else wrote in complaining because of the inconvenience of not being able to get their explorer out of the parking lot. I had a difficult time feeling sorry for her. Love and best regards to your family Sharon

We're very happy he was safe, if inconvenienced in all this, Nancy. And we thank you for providing at least one happy ending out of all of this. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Meyers" <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] my son Mike > > Phone lines seemed to be jammed all over. > So I will thank all of you via email. > My son Mike called at 3:50 PM. He is now safe and with his wife and > daughter. > Mike, who is an attorney in NYC, has just taken his daughter into her > kindergarten school this > morning. He was waiting on the corner to cross the street and walk the > five blocks to work. He actually witnessed the horrific morning event. > He ran back into the school, gathered up his 5 year old his daughter & > spent rest of the afternoon trying to find his wife who works in the > legal dept. of a bank, another few blocks away. > Their brand new condo in downtown Manhattan is not accessible to them, > so they have no home to go to this evening, his new mini van that was > parked across the street from the Towers is gone, he has no office to go > to tomorrow, but he is safe. GOD is good and a lot of prayers were > answered! > Thank you for your concerns, I really needed that & appreciated that. > > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

HI All, This is a message that I received from a first cousin after trying to make sure that family was ok... Jane Hoholski > My office is very close to the Pentagon. This morning I > had a class that was held in the Pentagon. I was in the > building when the plane crashed into the Pentagon. > Luckily, I was on the opposite side of the Pentagon from > where the crash took place. After we were evacuated > from the building,I waited for my car pool members. By > the time my last car pool member showed up, the Pentagon > parking lot had been closed and we were not allowed to > drive from the Pentagon parking lot. My Ford Explorer > is still in the parking lot tonight. Hopefully, I will > be able to get it tomorrow. > >

Nancy, Glad your family is safe. It does hit home doesn't it? You must have had a awful day worring about him. God keep them safe. Ruth Ann

Phone lines seemed to be jammed all over. So I will thank all of you via email. My son Mike called at 3:50 PM. He is now safe and with his wife and daughter. Mike, who is an attorney in NYC, has just taken his daughter into her kindergarten school this morning. He was waiting on the corner to cross the street and walk the five blocks to work. He actually witnessed the horrific morning event. He ran back into the school, gathered up his 5 year old his daughter & spent rest of the afternoon trying to find his wife who works in the legal dept. of a bank, another few blocks away. Their brand new condo in downtown Manhattan is not accessible to them, so they have no home to go to this evening, his new mini van that was parked across the street from the Towers is gone, he has no office to go to tomorrow, but he is safe. GOD is good and a lot of prayers were answered! Thank you for your concerns, I really needed that & appreciated that. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

George, HELP!!!! I have the family file loaded, The file name appears on the top of family page, but NO ENTRIES! The program indicates 437 K are there, but none are displayed. Any one else help? Duane

Many Many Prayers - I was just there at the towers in January. I am sitting here crying and praying for those families who lives will be forever changed by the events of today. Still hard to believe! So many innocent lives lost to further cause of a few! Just unbelievable! *********************************************** Census, obits, land & court records, general research Oakland County & General Michigan Research http://miprofgenie.com/ Karen Krugman P.O Box 577 Birmingham, MI 48012-0577 miprofgenie@wwnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane" <jhoho@lorainccc.edu> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:42 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] PRAYERS > > MANY MANY PRAYERS GOING OUT TO ALL FAMILIES FROM THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. > > > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Friends, Mail has been circulating, for the last few days, regarding the rumored disposal and dismantling of the National Genealogical Society's library. This morning, I received this letter from Cyndi Howells: -.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.- Hi all - As a member of the board for the National Genealogical Society, I am happy to say that the *rumors are not accurate*. Unfortunately news got out, without all the facts, before we had an opportuntity to make an official announcement. We have some very exciting, progressive plans for the NGS Library collection and a partnership with the St. Louis County Public Library. However, we had hoped to make a big splash with an announcement at the upcoming FGS conference in Iowa this week. Our President, Curt Witcher, has put together a presentation to announce the details, so I hate to steal his thunder. Suffice it to say this -- the books have NOT been sold. The library is not closing -- the book lending function is merely moving (and has not been moved yet). The reference library (manuscript collection, MAC files, etc.) remain at NGS headquarters. The plan we have *expands* benefits to our members, as well as the general public. This is a wonderful time of growth for us and we are all very excited about it. We will have a press release to send out next week, to make everything official. Stay tuned! Please be sure to pass on this note to reassure others that have received the same mis-information. Thanks for your interest in the NGS, Cyndi Howells NGS, Director at Large -.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.- Regards, Byron Bray Proud Rootsweb Donor President, Linn Genealogical Society Linn County, Oregon e-mail: general@linnhistory.peak.org webmaster LGS website: www.rootsweb.com/~orlinngs/ ICQ number: 8223914 AIM handle: Byroji Listowner: BOVEE-L list (Bovee-L@rootsweb.com) COVERT-L list (Covert-L@rootsweb.com) VanAkin-L list (VanAkin-L@rootsweb.com) Researching: BOVEE, BOICE, BRAY, CARD, FLAGLER, FULLER, GRANT, HASKINS, SIMPSON, VAN AUKEN, WALKER

> I haven't offered a temporary lookup in a long time. > This time it is for the HUNTINGTON CHURCH RECORDS. Dear Nancy, Thanks for your generous offer and, indeed, for all of your work on the Lorain County site. As the webmaster for the Linn Genealogical Society site in Linn county, Oregon, I know how much work it is; your efforts are appreciated!! -.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,,_,.- I am at a brick wall and perhaps these church records can help me break through it. My GG-Grandfather, Henry Alfred BRAY was born in Connecticut in 1825 and lived most of his life in Connecticut and Michigan (as far as I know). What brought me to the Lorain county list was the fact that, in our family bible, his son, (my G-Grandfather) Alfred Francis BRAY is listed as having been born in "Huntington, Lorain County, Ohio - January 7, 1853". Later, I found an obit for Henry Alfred BRAY in the Charlotte Republican (Charlotte, Eaton county, Michigan - December 15, 1911) which states that; "He was married at the age of 23 years to Caroline J. Fuller of Ohio, where he lived at the time." This would have placed the marriage event in 1848 (give or take a year). The obit also states that; "Mr. Bray united with the U. B. church when 20 years of age and has been an ordained minister, but has preached and was ever ready to do what he could to spread the gospel." Since vital records are not recorded, in Ohio, until 1857, I have been unable to find anything regarding the marriage of Henry Alfred BRAY and Caroline J. FULLER, nor any record of the birth of their son, Alfred Francis BRAY (or any other children). These remarks in the obit lead me to suspect that he may have been a church member or even a minister during the time that he (may have) lived in Lorain county and I am hopeful that these records may substantiate or refute that suspicion. I would very much appreciate a look-up of these records and would be happy to repay you in kind (if you have any Oregon connections I can help you with), as well as covering any costs you may incur in this process. If they are not found, please let me know if you can think of any other places I might seek information on this Lorain county connection. I am sending a copy of this letter to the list so that, if there are any others who know anything about these people or who are working on these lines, we can connect. Thanks Again, Byron Bray Proud Rootsweb Donor President, Linn Genealogical Society Linn County, Oregon e-mail: general@linnhistory.peak.org webmaster LGS website: www.rootsweb.com/~orlinngs/ ICQ number: 8223914 AIM handle: Byroji Listowner: BOVEE-L list (Bovee-L@rootsweb.com) COVERT-L list (Covert-L@rootsweb.com) VanAkin-L list (VanAkin-L@rootsweb.com) Researching: BOVEE, BOICE, BRAY, CARD, FLAGLER, FULLER, GRANT, HASKINS, SIMPSON, VAN AUKEN, WALKER

In a message dated 9/9/01 10:51:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dover@adelphia.net writes: << Thank you, Marilyn. I've spent a lot of time at your site. By following the various links, I've found many connections to my past. You've done a great job with this. http://mennoty.com/ Gail, Ohio >> Gail if you e-mail me privately off line I have alot more information available and an entire section of the cemetery (older section) that is yet unposted Marilyn

Tracie A Boellner wrote: > Is there a place to post biographies on the > Lorain county Genweb site? > > Thanks, > Tracie Boellner Tracie, I believe that Amy will post biographies on Ancestral Images of Lorain County. She has a great site that you can link to from the Lorain County main page. She lists biographical articles as one of her links. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohlorain/pictures/index.htm -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Sorry the URL for the cemetery is MennoTy.com go to the bottom of the first page and click on to the second page There is alot of historical stuff on the second page some pictures and bios there - more to come

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Hi, I would like to invite any one interested to the North Murray Ridge Cemetery Web Site. This is in Elyria Township but there are many related historical articles so check it out. It is still under construction so...... I invite you to join the mailing list, also if you have ANY information at all about the cemetery I would like to speak with you. Obits, DC any information would be most appreciated. Thanking you in advance for your assistance and encouragment Marilyn This site is dedicated to my mother who used to say "You know people are JUST dying to get in there"