http://www.dar.org/natsociety/membership.html#eligible This site will answer most questions.

To join the DAR one has to prove (document) lineage from an ancestor who served in the Revolutionary war. There are several ways one could "serve". If you want more details please email me off the list. I belong to a local chapter and would be happy to explain it to you. Karen *********************************************** Karen Krugman P.O Box 577 Birmingham, MI 48012-0577 miprofgenie@wwnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <VictorJBlomberg@aol.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] DAR membership > I just joined this list, and heard of the Dar but how do you know your > qualified to join it? Do your parents or grandparents have to be what to > join? What qualifies some one to be in it? Thanks > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

I just joined this list, and heard of the Dar but how do you know your qualified to join it? Do your parents or grandparents have to be what to join? What qualifies some one to be in it? Thanks

I used uncertified for my DAR. To my knowledge they take it either way. I do know that some other societies do require certified but Daughters of the Confederacy and DAR are not among those who do NOT. Karen (Who just came home from DAR meeting) *********************************************** Census, obits, land & court records, general research Oakland County & General Michigan Research http://miprofgenie.com/ Karen Krugman P.O Box 577 Birmingham, MI 48012-0577 miprofgenie@wwnet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Strick" <sstrick@centurytel.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Birth Cert Questions > Maureen, > Regarding certified vs uncertified: > It makes a difference depending upon which organization you are > applying for. > The DAR would never accept an uncertified copy, but most county > First Family organizations do not make that requirement. > Sue > > -- > Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb > Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Excuse this possibly off-topic question, but I have been wondering this for a while. For those in the DAR, what benefits are there for joining, besides possible scholarship help for kids? I'm an adult, nearing 40, no kids, and I know I have the ancestry to join, but wonder why I should. I have considered that it would help my nieces and nephews if I joined, but other than that, why? Thanks, and you can answer me off-list so we don't take up resources with this non-Lorain County item. Anna Hanson Karen Krugman wrote: > I used uncertified for my DAR. To my knowledge they take it either way. I > do know that some other societies do require certified but Daughters of the > Confederacy and DAR are not among those who do NOT. > Karen > (Who just came home from DAR meeting) > ***********************************************

Researchers, In the source "Academies and Colleges in Early Ohio, 1797-1851" this was listed: March 7, 1837 Sheffield Manual Labor Institute, Lorain Co. Ohio. Has anyone ever heard of this? -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Maureen, Regarding certified vs uncertified: It makes a difference depending upon which organization you are applying for. The DAR would never accept an uncertified copy, but most county First Family organizations do not make that requirement. Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

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Dear List Subscribers, Having been involved for several years in First Families committee, and an OGS LC Chapter charter member, I believe that all who served on the FF committee always knew that plain copies of documents & vital records were acceptable proof for Lorain County.(certification was NOT necessary). That may not be the case in some other counties and certainly not for many lineage societies. LC has always wanted to make it as easy as possible. The Chapter wants to induct as many people as possible. There are some documents or photocopies that may have to be signed & verified by a clerk or a librarian to be sure that the copy was in fact from a Lorain County source. There should never be a fee for that service. Since some subscribers did not have a clear understanding on this matter, and I am glad that this subject was brought up and discussed. I love these lists just for that reason. A person can always request a copy of a app & the rules. It is only when it is filled in & submitted, that the application & membership fees must be included. Hopefully in the future, the app & rules can be posted on the Lorgen website. Hope those of you who are in driving distance of the oberlin library can make the meeting tonight. A very nice program, especially for new or non-member. FREE! FREE! There is a hour of free genealogy help in advance of the 7:00 meeting time, in the Ohio room there. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Some Merchants, Manufacturers & Traders of Ohio in January 1885: Abstracts from THE MERCHANTS AGENCY REFERENCE BOOK by R.G.Dunn & Co.,NY AMHERST, Lorain Co. no population given Gibson Bros...............General store Harpster, F.J.............Groceries BELDEN STATION, Lorain Co. population 200 Blood, Mrs. S.D...........Lubricating Oils Bruce, M.A................Groceries & Coal Davis, Jas. & Son.........Oils Roat, T.W.................Groceries FIELDS P.O. population 20 Fields & Thompson.........General Store Ganeston, S.F.............General Store Varsey, Charles...........Drugs AVON, Lorain Co. population 500 Benham, John..............Furniture & Wagonmaker Bins, P...................General Store Blackwell, J.S............General Store Budinger, Peter...........Boots & Shoes Dehlinger, Adam...........Shoemaker Fisher, Geo...............Shoemaker Gifford, P.R..............Saloon Hackel, John..............General Store Heighland, George.........General Store Lenzen, John..............Groceries & Saloon Townsend, A.C.............Harness Wagner, John..............Carriagemaker Wagner, P.................Wagonmaker West & Wagner.............Hardware, Stoves & Tins Wilder, Wm................Stock Wilhelmy, Joseph..........General Store Williams, Warden & Co.....Millers Wilson, Chas..............Stock Zimmerman, Jas............Saloon The above information was published in the "Ohio Records and Pioneer Families", Vol.'s 23,24 &25. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

I. Your new RootsWeb mailing list: OK, good news: your mailing list is ready to roll. Briefly (very), people can subscribe to your list in mail mode by sending a message to BASEY-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word: subscribe and nothing else. If they prefer digest mode, they should send the command instead to BASEY-D-request@rootsweb.com. To unsubscribe, they should send the command "unsubscribe" to BASEY-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or BASEY-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) To switch from one mode to the other, they should unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. To post to both BASEY-L and BASEY-D, messages should be sent to BASEY-L@rootsweb.com. Messages sent there will appear both places. ===== >From the Email Account of: Tim Ayers (615) 254-0767 Researching these surnames: Murphy, Wells, Johnson, Small, Jones, Stroder, Anderson, Basey and Ball (KY); Ayers (MD) "Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. " __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

It is certainly good to know that, I was told by 2 people, both of whom had inducted people, that certified copies were needed. Thanks for making that clear. Maureen

Sheila, You've had good answers to your questions. I just want to clarify a couple of points. There is no difference between a certified and an uncertified copy of a certificate. They are identical except for the official seal (and cost <g>) A check for payment would take much longer because it would have to clear you bank before they fill your request. A money order would be more expedient. Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Maureen, That is not correct. A plain copy of a document is all that is needed for Lorain County FF. If you are talking about another, I'm sorry for butting in. Nick --- Maurs97@aol.com wrote: > > A certified copy of a document is required for the > process of induction of a > person into the First Families. I didn't realize > that when I began my > research. Just in case you might be doing that, I > thought I'd let you know. > > Maureen > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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Since I was instrumental in revamping the rules for First Families of Lorain County this last year, I will insert my input here. There is no mention of having to have CERTIFIED copies of any legal documents. You just need copies of the legal documents to join First Families of Lorain County. A Census record should include the date of the census and the township/city of said census along with the names in question. Remember, women were not included in the census forms until the year of 1850. Proving women in the county is often more difficult because of this prior to 1850. There have been instances of pictures of tombstones along with the name of the cemetery where buried being accepted as proof. I'm sure that our chairman, Nick Melhinch, would agree with this. Margaret Cheney

I had a mixture of certificates when I proved several Lorain First Family individuals last year. Not everyone had a legal certificate. I'm positive that I submitted photocopies of all my legal documents, not the original copies with the actual seals. For current generations (ourselves, parents, and perhaps grandparents) legal certificates will likely be available. However, my own grandmother had no record of birth and I had to use a census record for proof of her parentage. No one should give up trying to prove lineage because their documentation is not perfect. Most organizations of this sort accept reasonable substitutes of documentation. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: <Maurs97@aol.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Birth Cert Questions > > A certified copy of a document is required for the process of induction of a > person into the First Families. I didn't realize that when I began my > research. Just in case you might be doing that, I thought I'd let you know. > > Maureen > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

In a message dated 10/07/2001 12:13:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Maurs97@aol.com writes: > A certified copy of a document is required for the process of induction of a > person into the First Families. I didn't realize that when I began my > research. Just in case you might be doing that, I thought I'd let you > know. > > Maureen > > >

A certified copy of a document is required for the process of induction of a person into the First Families. I didn't realize that when I began my research. Just in case you might be doing that, I thought I'd let you know. Maureen