Gail, Did one of the e-mails have a subject of " A little more Cheese in LaGrange Township" ? I'm a littled worried about it? Mona Reply to: mennellfam@aol.com Visit my website: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html Researching Surnames: Mennell, Nichols, Caldwell, Gage, Kimball, Crow, Palmateer, Sampson, Taylor and many, many more.

Hi List - I've gotten 3 e-mails with attachments in the past 24 hours in which the return e-mail addresses were those of three individuals on our list and on the subject line referenced the Lorain County Mail List. Each of the attachments had a different title. For all new subscribers, attachments will NEVER come through the mail-list. When you click on that e-mail, a prompt appears to ask you to open the attachment. Hit cancel and DELETE THE E-MAIL. Empty your deleted e-mail folder and see if it is further stored elsewhere in your hard drive (Under Find Files with that date) and delete it from there as well. Gail, Ohio

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Thanks. Yes, this is the one. I'll be able to use this in my speech, along with the story of my ancestor, Lady Godiva....tho my more recent Puritan ancestors would frown on me replicating her actions. ;-) Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Hoholski" <jhoho@lorainccc.edu> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Request: Poem: The Dash > HI Deb, > > I think I found the poem you were talking about. Hope this is it! > Jane Hoholski > > How Do You Live Your Dash > > I read of a man who stood to speak > At the funeral of a friend. > He referred to the dates on her tombstone > From the beginning...to the end. > > He noted that first came her date of birth > And spoke the following date with tears, > But he said what mattered most of all > Was the dash between those years. > (1934-1998) > > For that dash represents all the time > That she spent alive on earth... > And now only those who loved her > Know what that little line is worth. > > For it matters not, how much we own; > The cars...the house...the cash, > What matters is how we live and love > And how we spend our dash. > > So think about this long and hard... > Are there things you'd like to change? > For you never know how much time is left, > That can still be rearranged. > > If we could just slow down enough > To consider what's true and real, > And always try to understand > The way other people feel. > > And be less quick to anger, > And show appreciation more > And love the people in our lives > Like we've never loved before. > > If we treat each other with respect, > And more often wear a smile... > Remembering that this special dash > Might only last a little while. > > So, when your eulogy's being read > With your life's actions to rehash... > Would you be proud of the things they say > About how you spent your dash? > > Author Unknown. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Hi, I want to apologize to the group for sending you a virus yesterday. I did not know I had it. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Hoholski <jhoho@lorainccc.edu> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Request: Poem: The Dash > HI Deb, > > I think I found the poem you were talking about. Hope this is it! > Jane Hoholski > > How Do You Live Your Dash > > I read of a man who stood to speak > At the funeral of a friend. > He referred to the dates on her tombstone > From the beginning...to the end. > > He noted that first came her date of birth > And spoke the following date with tears, > But he said what mattered most of all > Was the dash between those years. > (1934-1998) > > For that dash represents all the time > That she spent alive on earth... > And now only those who loved her > Know what that little line is worth. > > For it matters not, how much we own; > The cars...the house...the cash, > What matters is how we live and love > And how we spend our dash. > > So think about this long and hard... > Are there things you'd like to change? > For you never know how much time is left, > That can still be rearranged. > > If we could just slow down enough > To consider what's true and real, > And always try to understand > The way other people feel. > > And be less quick to anger, > And show appreciation more > And love the people in our lives > Like we've never loved before. > > If we treat each other with respect, > And more often wear a smile... > Remembering that this special dash > Might only last a little while. > > So, when your eulogy's being read > With your life's actions to rehash... > Would you be proud of the things they say > About how you spent your dash? > > Author Unknown. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

HI Deb, I think I found the poem you were talking about. Hope this is it! Jane Hoholski How Do You Live Your Dash I read of a man who stood to speak At the funeral of a friend. He referred to the dates on her tombstone From the beginning...to the end. He noted that first came her date of birth And spoke the following date with tears, But he said what mattered most of all Was the dash between those years. (1934-1998) For that dash represents all the time That she spent alive on earth... And now only those who loved her Know what that little line is worth. For it matters not, how much we own; The cars...the house...the cash, What matters is how we live and love And how we spend our dash. So think about this long and hard... Are there things you'd like to change? For you never know how much time is left, That can still be rearranged. If we could just slow down enough To consider what's true and real, And always try to understand The way other people feel. And be less quick to anger, And show appreciation more And love the people in our lives Like we've never loved before. If we treat each other with respect, And more often wear a smile... Remembering that this special dash Might only last a little while. So, when your eulogy's being read With your life's actions to rehash... Would you be proud of the things they say About how you spent your dash? Author Unknown.

BlankGreetings fellow genealogy researchers! I'm looking for a copy of the poem "The Dash". It's about how one spends their "dash" - the time between between birth and death. Would like to use the poem in a speech this week. This poem was forwarded to many genealogy mailing lists within the past couple of years. Thanks, Deb

Jim, In the book, "Pinoneer History of Camden Township" by F.E. Weeks, there is a one liner about Manning Ware: "Lived here in 1875. A daughter married Charles Irish." (page 80) If you look up Charles Irish, it states: "A blacksmith, born in 1824, died in 1894, married a daughter of Manning Ware, of Camden, but they were divorced when the children were small. The wife, Jane M., married a Dale and died in 1894, born in 1839. A son Charles Irish, lived in Lorain, Ohio." (page 52) There were no entries for Dale... Hope that helps! David Statler JTa3252718@aol.com wrote: > It has been quite a while since I posted my research interests. I am still > looking for my gggrandfather's parent's identity. Manning Ware was born in > 1818 in probably Bolton New York. He married Mary Jane Maynard in 1839 in > Sudbury, Rutland, Vermont. > Manning and Mary Jane had the following children: > Martha Ware October 10, 1848 This is my gggrandmother. > Susan Ware 1842 > Dallas Ware 1846 > Cordelia Ware 1852 > Willie Ware 1858 > Manning and Mary Jane came to Ohio and settled in Lorain Co. near Elyria in > Camden Twp. They are buried in Camden Twp. Cemetery. > Any information would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Jim Taylor of Warren, Ohio > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

It has been quite a while since I posted my research interests.  I am still looking for my gggrandfather's parent's identity.  Manning Ware was born in 1818 in probably Bolton New York.  He married Mary Jane Maynard in 1839 in Sudbury, Rutland, Vermont. Manning and Mary Jane had the following children: Martha Ware        October 10, 1848  This is my gggrandmother. Susan Ware          1842 Dallas Ware          1846 Cordelia Ware       1852 Willie Ware           1858 Manning and Mary Jane came to Ohio and settled in Lorain Co. near Elyria in Camden Twp.  They are buried in Camden Twp. Cemetery. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Taylor of Warren, Ohio

I am looking for Gay WARE who was born in MI. My ancestors from Lorain County are THRUSH and NORTHRUP. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JTa3252718@aol.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Manning/Mary Jane Ware Camden Twp. > It has been quite a while since I posted my research interests. I am still > looking for my gggrandfather's parent's identity. Manning Ware was born in > 1818 in probably Bolton New York. He married Mary Jane Maynard in 1839 in > Sudbury, Rutland, Vermont. > Manning and Mary Jane had the following children: > Martha Ware October 10, 1848 This is my gggrandmother. > Susan Ware 1842 > Dallas Ware 1846 > Cordelia Ware 1852 > Willie Ware 1858 > Manning and Mary Jane came to Ohio and settled in Lorain Co. near Elyria in > Camden Twp. They are buried in Camden Twp. Cemetery. > Any information would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Jim Taylor of Warren, Ohio > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

In a message dated 11/23/2001 1:03:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Person who sent the query about those people who went from Oberlin to South > Bend: I have corresponded with an Atkins gentleman in the Oberlin area. > He > now lives in Amherst, I think, but grew up in Oberlin. There is a > possibility > he can help you. > > Patricia (Edwards) Maher > Patricia, This item was of interest to me because my Lorain Co. ancestor moved to South Bend, IN about 1855 or 1857 and then back to Lorain by 1860. He was a carpenter. I figured he went for work. Were there lots of folks making this same migration in same period, and, if so, what was the motivating factor? if you think that gentleman caould shed some light on that, I'd appreciate his address, too. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Sarah Sheffield

Hi Farnsworth researchers, Thank you for your responses to my query. Did any of you know Merton (Bud) Farnsworth who would be around 88 years-old if he is still alive? My 86-year-old mother, Donna Dague Martin BeVier, was unofficially engaged to him before she met my father and before Bud met the woman he married. Bud was a vice president in the South American division of Coca Cola. I would like to be able to tell my mother a little about his life if any of you might know. Cathy Martin ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Below are the only Farnsworth's in my files. Can anyone fill in the gaps on this family? Karen Family Group Record ====================================================================== Husband: Charles W. FARNSWORTH ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Birth: bef 1862 Death: Burial: Marriage: 28 NOV 1880 Ohio ======================================================================= Wife: Isa HIPPENSTEEL ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Birth: bef 1865 Death: Burial: ======================================================================= Children ======================================================================= 1 M Walter FARNSWORTH Birth: 29 APR 1889 Wadsworth, Medina County, Ohio Death: Burial: Spouse: Mollie MILLER (m MAR 1911) ======================================================================= ======================================================================= SOURCES 1. Marriage Records, Medina County, Ohio (Courthouse). Vol. E1, page 138A. 2. Ibid. Vol. K, Page 33, certificate 66. -----Original Message----- From: Ray W. Justus [mailto:rayjustus@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:02 PM To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Farnsworth Cathy, My Farnsworths moved from Lorain County to Medina County in the 1840s. I know they migrated from Bradford County, Pennsylvania but I have very little after that until my great-great-grandfather, Guy C. Farnsworth, shows up in Bremer County, Iowa in 1857. The family is listed below. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ Descendants of Erving Farnsworth Generation No. 1 1. Erving7 Farnsworth (William6, Zaccheus5, Aaron4, Benjamin3, Matthias2, Richard1) was born October 27, 1812 in Guilford, Windham, Vermont, and died March 18, 1894. He married (1) Harriet Nichols Bef. 1833, daughter of William Nichols and Mary Derbishire. She was born Bet. 1813 - 1814 in Pennsylvania, and died Aft. August 22, 1850. He married (2) Sariah (Seriah) Carnegie September 18, 1852, daughter of John Carnegie. She was born Bet. 1813 - 1814 in Vermont. Sariah was the widow of Erving's brother, Clark Farnsworth. More About Erving Farnsworth: 1840 Census: 1840, Grafton, Lorain, Ohio 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Occupation: Machinist More About Harriet Nichols: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Occupation: Housewife More About Sariah (Seriah) Carnegie: 1840 Census: 1840, Smithfield Township, Bradford, Pennsylvania 1850 Census: November 15, 1850, Smithfield Township, Bradford, Pennsylvania 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1870 Census: June 15, 1870, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Children of Erving Farnsworth and Harriet Nichols are: 2 i. Mary Farnsworth, born 1833 in Pennsylvania. She married A. T. Webster. More About Mary Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 3 ii. Guy C. Farnsworth, born October 15, 1836 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania; died July 22, 1924 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon. He married Elizabeth Owen McHenry June 6, 1865 in Waverly, Bremer, Iowa; born June 9, 1842 in Washington Township, Owen, Indiana; died June 11, 1917 in Denver, Bremer, Iowa. More About Guy C. Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1880 Census: June 14, 1880, Jefferson Township, Bremer, Iowa Burial: July 27, 1924, Oakland Cemetery, Janesville, Bremer, Iowa Military service: Bet. November 8, 1861 - August 8, 1865, Civil War - Private, United States Army, Company B, Fourteenth Regiment, Iowa Infantry Occupation: Machinist More About Elizabeth Owen McHenry: 1880 Census: June 14, 1880, Jefferson Township, Bremer, Iowa Burial: Oakland Cemetery, Janesville, Bremer, Iowa 4 iii. Ann C. Farnsworth, born 1841 in Pennsylvania. She married Case?. More About Ann C. Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Residence: Ocean Park, Los Angeles, California 5 iv. Henry Farnsworth, born September 1, 1842 in Liverpool Township, Medina County, Ohio; died February 14, 1923 in Pacific Branch, National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California. More About Henry Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Burial: Los Angeles National Cemetery, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage, Arterio Sclerosis Eye Color: Blue Hair Color: Brown Military service: Bet. September 1861 - July 15, 1865, Civil War - Sergeant, United States Army, Company D, First Regiment, Ohio Light Artillery 6 v. Emaline Farnsworth, born 1844 in Ohio. She married McNally. More About Emaline Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Happy Thanksgiving, Lorain Co. friends! Hope you all had a wonderful day with your families. Is anyone researching the Farnsworth name? Cathy Martin ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Cathy, My Farnsworths moved from Lorain County to Medina County in the 1840s. I know they migrated from Bradford County, Pennsylvania but I have very little after that until my great-great-grandfather, Guy C. Farnsworth, shows up in Bremer County, Iowa in 1857. The family is listed below. Ray Justus Chandler, AZ Descendants of Erving Farnsworth Generation No. 1 1. Erving7 Farnsworth (William6, Zaccheus5, Aaron4, Benjamin3, Matthias2, Richard1) was born October 27, 1812 in Guilford, Windham, Vermont, and died March 18, 1894. He married (1) Harriet Nichols Bef. 1833, daughter of William Nichols and Mary Derbishire. She was born Bet. 1813 - 1814 in Pennsylvania, and died Aft. August 22, 1850. He married (2) Sariah (Seriah) Carnegie September 18, 1852, daughter of John Carnegie. She was born Bet. 1813 - 1814 in Vermont. Sariah was the widow of Erving's brother, Clark Farnsworth. More About Erving Farnsworth: 1840 Census: 1840, Grafton, Lorain, Ohio 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Occupation: Machinist More About Harriet Nichols: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Occupation: Housewife More About Sariah (Seriah) Carnegie: 1840 Census: 1840, Smithfield Township, Bradford, Pennsylvania 1850 Census: November 15, 1850, Smithfield Township, Bradford, Pennsylvania 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1870 Census: June 15, 1870, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Children of Erving Farnsworth and Harriet Nichols are: 2 i. Mary Farnsworth, born 1833 in Pennsylvania. She married A. T. Webster. More About Mary Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 3 ii. Guy C. Farnsworth, born October 15, 1836 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania; died July 22, 1924 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon. He married Elizabeth Owen McHenry June 6, 1865 in Waverly, Bremer, Iowa; born June 9, 1842 in Washington Township, Owen, Indiana; died June 11, 1917 in Denver, Bremer, Iowa. More About Guy C. Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1880 Census: June 14, 1880, Jefferson Township, Bremer, Iowa Burial: July 27, 1924, Oakland Cemetery, Janesville, Bremer, Iowa Military service: Bet. November 8, 1861 - August 8, 1865, Civil War - Private, United States Army, Company B, Fourteenth Regiment, Iowa Infantry Occupation: Machinist More About Elizabeth Owen McHenry: 1880 Census: June 14, 1880, Jefferson Township, Bremer, Iowa Burial: Oakland Cemetery, Janesville, Bremer, Iowa 4 iii. Ann C. Farnsworth, born 1841 in Pennsylvania. She married Case?. More About Ann C. Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Residence: Ocean Park, Los Angeles, California 5 iv. Henry Farnsworth, born September 1, 1842 in Liverpool Township, Medina County, Ohio; died February 14, 1923 in Pacific Branch, National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California. More About Henry Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio Burial: Los Angeles National Cemetery, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage, Arterio Sclerosis Eye Color: Blue Hair Color: Brown Military service: Bet. September 1861 - July 15, 1865, Civil War - Sergeant, United States Army, Company D, First Regiment, Ohio Light Artillery 6 v. Emaline Farnsworth, born 1844 in Ohio. She married McNally. More About Emaline Farnsworth: 1850 Census: August 22, 1850, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio 1860 Census: June 20, 1860, Liverpool Township, Medina, Ohio

Person who sent the query about those people who went from Oberlin to South Bend: I have corresponded with an Atkins gentleman in the Oberlin area. He now lives in Amherst, I think, but grew up in Oberlin. There is a possibility he can help you. Patricia (Edwards) Maher Paw Paw, MI

Does anyone know who the parents were of John Bernard Sr. Annable or the maiden name of his wife, etc. Any information would be appreciated. Audrey Annable Franklin 1 John Bernard Sr. Annable b: in OH .. +Jane Unknown b: June 11, 1882 d: January 31, 1922 in Oberlin, Lorain Cty, OH ......... 2 John Bernard Jr Annable b: November 22, 1927 in Oberlin, Lorain Cty, OH d: March 15, 1979 in South Bend, St. Joseph Cty, IN .............+Helen Atkins .................... 3 John Bernard Annable III........................ +Linda Walker .................... *2nd Wife of John Bernard Annable III: ........................ +Connie Hamilton .................... 3 James Adkins Annable ........................ +Sandra Mae Clark .................... 3 Joel Anthony Annable ........................ +Mary Joe Gaffney .................... 3 Joan Elizabeth Annable ........................ +Ivor Leonard Niggebrugge

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Recently I bought a great book called, "EVIDENCE". I have been researching for quite a few years and as the time has passed the importance of sourcing continues to impress itself upon me. I have always sourced my materials, so that is not the problem. This book has encouraged me to take my sourcing up a level or two, by better defining my sources. This will take some doing. BUT it is happening. My two questions have to do with Lorain County and the ancestors that my husband Mark's family has there. I find them noted in TWO publications, one being the Elyrian which from what I have here is the Elyria High School year book. Can someone who is familiar with that publication tell me publication details? Does anyone have any other helpful information on that? The ones I am interested in would be primarily 1924/5 and before. The other item from Elyria that I am hoping for assistance with would be the city directories. I have the information from the listings that I need, but the sourcing on them is really scarce. Can anyone tell me who the publisher/compiler of the city directories was? Was it done by a private company and if so who? I want to make the source as complete as possible. AND last I HIGHLY recommend this book EVIDENCE if you are seeking guidance on your sourcing! Very user friendly! Thanks in advance for anyone who might be able to answer these questions for me. Regards, Karen Krugman Michigan