Leaving for church in about 30 minutes, & need to leave a request with you. During your private prayers or meditations, please remember our LC list subscribers. I personally know of several LC Listers/Subscribers that are now going thru chemo treatments, radiation treatments, several thru devastating grief, some are facing surgery, some going thru serious depression or SAD. Our pioneer ancestors sometimes had extended families to help them thru the tough times. Some had no one at all to turn to but their Higher Power. The transient society that we live in today, often leaves a person with no one but their Maker. We are all touching each others lives electronically now. Later........ Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

On my way to church too and will certainly remember all who are struggling in my prayers.... janet

For Kathy....... Carrie S. FAIRFIELD, who died at age 67 was buried on March 28, 1901 in the Greenwood Cem. in Wellington OH. She is buried beside James L. FOOTE who died at age 38 and was buried on March 16, 1866, in Lot No. 599, graves A & B. Do not know where she place of death. Her obit should tell you, suggest you contact http://www.wellington.lib.oh.us/reference/ Charles FOOTE & his wife Jessie are both buried in Elmwood Cem. in Lorain OH. Charles, born in Wellington, died in Cleveland OH, at age 61 and was buried on May 12, 1924; Jessie M. FOOTE died at age 80, Sept. 8, 1947 while a resident of Cleveland. They are buried in lot 926. A listing for a Carrie S. FAIRFIELD is on page 639C of Wellington census index for 1880. This is just a LC researchers gift for you. Happy hunting! kathy wrote: > > Hello, > I am looking for the burial and obit for Carrie Fairfield - died in , I > believe, Cleveland, Ohio on 26 March 1901. (age 67) > Her son Charles Foote and his wife Jessie Williams Foote are supposed to be > buried at Elmwood Cemetery in Lorain. > Is it possible to find out if Carrie is buried there also? > Is there an Index of that cemetery? I am trying to find Charles Foote's > father's name. (Carrie's first husband) And Carrie's maiden name. > Please let me know your charges. > Thanks, > Kathy Heinz ============================================================= Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

I am preparing to leave for church now (on west coast) and will keep all Lorain Co. listers in my prayers. Also, wanted to let those who have corresponded with me on my @home account that that is now defunct. I will be getting a new address soon, but in the meantime if you need to reach me, you can use this hotmail address. Thanks, and have a good Sunday! Anna Hanson (formerly at ananah@home.com) >From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> >Reply-To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com >To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [OHLORAIN] Church anyone??? >Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 09:37:42 -0500 > >Leaving for church in about 30 minutes, & need to leave a request with >you. During your private prayers or meditations, please remember our LC >list subscribers. I personally know of several LC Listers/Subscribers >that are now going thru chemo treatments, radiation treatments, several >thru devastating grief, some are facing surgery, some going thru serious >depression or SAD. >Our pioneer ancestors sometimes had extended families to help them thru >the tough times. Some had no one at all to turn to but their Higher >Power. The transient society that we live in today, often leaves a >person with no one but their Maker. We are all touching each others >lives electronically now. Later........ >Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > > >==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== >Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

To John in Australia.... Please email me privately your postal address and I will mail the 1972 PICKENS obit to you. Wonder what that postage will be? -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Sharon, As per instructions at: http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/resources.htm For your particular situation, please write to the Lorain County Health Dept. for the CATALFO births that took place in South Amherst after Dec. 20, 1908. They did not take place in an Elyria Hospital. If the county health department does not have them on file, let me know privately what their response to your letter was, and I will try to guide you further. Of the over two hundred subscribers on this LC electronic mailing list, I am unsure of just how many researchers live close enough to get to these various health departments for out of area researchers. Some births were delayed registrations and some did not get registered at all. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

I would appreciate a lookup for birth records for three children and the death record of one of them: Parents: Joseph CATALFO and Antonina GIUFFRE/GUIFFRE were the parents of 8 children. I have located birth information on all but three of them. The 5 known children were all born in South Amherst, Lorain Co., Ohio, between 1908 and Jul 1921. Looking for: 1) Birth record for Rose/Rosemary CATALFO born abt. 1914 probably in South Amherst, Lorain, Ohio. She married Anthony Smerglia in 1940 in Cuyahoga Co., Ohio. 2) Birth record for Phillip/Philip CATALFO born abt 1913 probably in South Amherst, Lorain, Ohio. Also looking for his death record -- sometime between 1920 and 1928. 3) Birth record for Phillip/Philip (2) CATALFO born after the death of the child above. Probably in South Amherst, Lorain, Ohio. (Between mid-1921 and before Dec 1928, when the mother died - older sister born 1 Jul 1920) I would appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks Sharon

For the Pie Lady..... Do not have your real name but "Pielady" intrigues me a bit. At times, some of us go back & read queries that folks have sent to our webmaster to post at http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/queries2001.html and decide to answer a selected a few IF we can...... Per death records at the Elyria Health Dept., your Edward H. Boughton was born July 5, 1865 in Albion MI, died on 11 April 1952 at 428 East Ave., Elyria & is buried in Ridgelawn Cem., Elyria OH. His wife Ella Quinlan Boughton, was born 11 Oct. 1886 Albion MI , died on 28 July 1933 at 428 East Ave. Elyria, is also buried in Ridgelawn Cemetery. Per the 1907 directory, Edward worked as a miller. Vivian was still at home with them at 428 East Ave. The son, Edward Jr. was a meter tester for the Ohio Public service in 1929 & living at the East Ave. home. Usually answer all queries privately, but just want folks to know how helpful it can be to post an old fashioned query at http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/queries2001.html You just never know who will read it. Have a great holiday! -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Jan.... Florence B. MEYERS BONSIEUR was born 4 Feb. 1879 & died at Elyria Hospital on 7 August 1919. She is buried in Ridgelawn Cem. in Elyria. Her husband, Le E. BONSIEUR, was born 1877 & died 1951, is also buried in Ridgelawn Cem. In 1907, Le E. Bonsieur was an electrician & they lived at 121 Cleveland St. Elyria. Hope this makes a good holiday stocking stuffer for you. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Connie, Tryphena M. SAXTON, wife of Henry Saxton, died Dec. 14, 1936 in Huron Co. and she is buried in the Grove Street Cemetery, Section 2, Row 22, in New London Twp., Huron Co. Her daughter Emma Jean 1875-1930 is buried by her, also her daughter Josie P. 1874-1885. Happy Holidays! Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

This is from the ROOTSWEB list in case you are not a subscriber: I happen to admire this CGRS, he has been very helpful, even to those of us in OH. Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 02:41:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Alvie L. Davidson" <floridasearch@yahoo.com> Subject: CA & TX Vital Records Removals Dear Readers, I have been made aware that ROOTSWEB has removed access to the TX and CA Birth Indexes as well as some other databases which concern some so-called privacy issues. The main sticking point is that they have had their legal arm twisted by some of the do-gooders on the CA legislature and now we, the genealogists, have to take the brunt of their action. I say we ought to bombard the legislators Email box with protests about this matter and voice our opinion to ROOTSWEB about bowing to pressure from someone who never uses their services. If criminals use this information to create false ID's, then why don't they pass laws to punish those criminals and not punish the genealogists. A criminal does not need these databases to create false ID's and break the laws of our land. They simply need other criminals to make false drivers licenses, passports, etc. Now is the time for genealogists to rise up and protest to the CA and TX legislators. I copied the TX vital records database onto CD several months ago, so they will have to pry those CD's from my cold dead fingers to get them back. Three cheers for fore-thoughts... Alvie L. Davidson CGRS Lakeland, Florida http://www.floridadetective.net ====================================================== Purely from a genealogy stand point, what do you LC subscribers think of the above message? Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Hi Listers. The following are the surnames and queries that have bee posted to the Lorain County Genealogy page for the month of November . Surnames: SIZEMORE, SHATTUCK, CLARK, MOORE, POWERS, IRISH, HICKS, HIX, LONG, WOJTALEWICZ, WINNERS, BASH, PALCO. Queries: DOOLEY, SHATTUCK, MORRIS, NOON, NOONAN, FAHEY, CROWLEY, DOWNS, WOLCOTT, WINTER, BOUGHTON, BOUTON, THORN, QUINLAN, SAXTON, MERRILL. http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/queries2001.html Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

If the resources are available on the Internet, I use them. If some people are concerned enough about their privacy that they will go to the trouble of writing to their congressmen and state legislators, I don't have problem with removing the information. If the people are still living, I can get the information directly from the source. If I'm afraid to ask my sister for her oldest son's date of birth or marriage date, I don't deserve to have it. I have been doing this for more than twenty-seven years. A great deal of the fun of genealogy comes from searching for clues. Right now, because of the Internet, I have receive tons of information that I haven't even had a chance to review. I think I owe everyone in the world a response. (Please forgive me if you are one I owe.) Let's all lighten up and quit complaining about so much minutia. Be thankful for all the people who willingly share their information. Merry Christmas! Ray Justus Chandler, AZ

Lorrie, You should be able to find the information you need from our Lorain County webpage. Go to http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/church/church.htm Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Hello to everyone, I am hoping someone out there will be able to assist me. I would like to know the names and contact information for the Presbyterian churches in Elyria, Lorain County, OH. My ggrandfather, James Samuel PIERCE, was born in Elyria 24 March 1872. However, when I studied the LDS births film I was unable to find him listed. Finding his birth information is the key to my PIERCE family research. I am trying to climb an enormous brick wall and making no progress. If you are able to help me in any way (suggestions, advice, requested information, leads.....) I would be extremely grateful! Thank you so very much, Lorrie Schneck@charter.net

Here's a great resource from the CAGG (Computer Assisted Genealogy Group) that you might want to print out for future help. Sue -------- Original Message -------- Subject: "Charting a Research Course With Online Maps" Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 06:10:27 -0700 Resent-From: OHCAGG-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:11:10 -0500 From: c.davis1@juno.com To: OHCAGG-L@rootsweb.com GEORGE G. MORGAN: "ALONG THOSE LINES . . ." "Charting a Research Course With Online Maps" == I regularly present a popular seminar to genealogists and librarians called "Genealogy Orienteering: Using Maps to Find the RIGHT Place." In it, I discuss how essential it is to know how to use maps to locate your ancestors' location at the time they lived there, and thereby successfully identify the geopolitical entity having jurisdiction at the time. When you figure out what government had authority there, you can then determine who created records at the time for what purpose. You can also then hone in on which archive or courthouse to search for your ancestors' records. Just a few years ago, if you wanted to consult a map, it was necessary to either refer to the old outdated atlas on your coffee table or make a trip to the nearest public or academic library. The Internet has changed our lives forever, and now we have a wealth of cartographic resources literally at our fingertips. In "Along Those Lines . . ." this week, I want to discuss just a few of the excellent online resources for maps, both contemporary and historical. MANY TYPES OF MAPS There are so many types of maps that it boggles the mind. One book that opened my eyes to this fact is "The Map Catalog" edited by Joel Makower. While the book's most recent third edition is 1992, you cannot imagine the hundreds of types of maps that might be available. World maps, travel maps, maps of specific areas, boundary maps, scientific maps, historical maps, utility and service maps, water maps, sky maps, aerial and space maps, and more are all among the maps discussed and illustrated. These are in addition to the maps that genealogical researchers already know, such as land and property maps, plat maps, tax district maps, census enumeration district maps, and others. It is truly mind-boggling. Using the Internet, you can locate thousands of map sites by simply typing a search into your Web browser. For example, I entered "census map" in Google (http://www.google.com) on my browser and was rewarded with four thousand three hundred and thirty hits. Among them was a new site for me: South Eastern Genealogy Online at http://www.segenealogy.com and, in particular, the page at http://www.segenealogy.com/sgo03.htm, which presents a changing graphic of maps of the entire are of what is now the United States for each of the Federal censuses from 1790 to 1920. In addition, changing maps for the Southern states are also presented, showing the county formations. What a great new find! And you can find such maps yourself by exploring with your browser. Simply enter a search term as I did, or another term such as "texas county map" and be rewarded with links including one to Texas Department of Transportation's Texas County Highway Maps at http://txdot.lib.utexas.edu, viewable using the freely downloadable MrSid program (the same used by Ancestry.com for its Images Online). Try typing the words poland and map and you will find many contemporary and historical maps of several types. With a little imagination and your Web browser, you can construct a simple search phrase and discover some truly amazing online resources. Remember to use quotation marks to define a phrase to be searched (such as "north carolina" + "rockingham county" + map), type all words in lower case to guarantee more matches, and use singular forms of words (map, as opposed to maps). SOME EXCELLENT CARTOGRAPHIC SITES Leading the list of resources would have to be the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) at http://www.nara.gov. The online catalog of holdings is called NAIL (National Archival Information Locator) at http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html. You can specify "Maps and Charts" in the Media window, and type your search terms. Start simple and then get more specific. The number of matches will be shown, at which time you can click on the "Display Results" button. The summary list of materials will be displayed. Items with a red ball graphic are digitized copies, and a click on the "Full" button will present you with all details about the item. You can contact the NARA branch where the item is held at the address, telephone or fax number for more information, including to order a copy of the item for a fee. The Institute of Historical Research in London, England, has compiled an excellent collection of links to images of early maps on the Web at: http://ihr.sas.ac.uk/maps/webimages.html There literally are hundreds of links here from all over the world. Are you looking for maps of France, Germany, Greece, Portugal, Russia, Spain, the Balkans, the U.S., and the UK? What about Central and South America? Australia? Canada? Asia? There are maps of may areas and eras. The U.S. Geological Survey's Geographic Name Information Server (GNIS) is ideal for locating specific features, such as cemeteries. Visit the query form page at: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form Select a state, type in a county, and pull down the "Feature Type" window to select a feature, in this case a cemetery. You will be rewarded with a list of all the information about this county's cemeteries, with links to details that include variant names, latitude and longitude (great for GPS users), and links to a variety of maps showing the location of the cemetery. This site is nothing less than splendid! The David Rumsey Collection of maps materials concentrates on 18th and 19th century North and South American cartographic materials (http://www.davidrumsey.com). The site contains over five thousand four hundred historical maps, searchable by state or other keyword. It loads and uses a tool called "Insight" which works with your browser to display the maps, on which you can then zoom in to view more detail, rotate, and print. This is a most remarkable collection of historical materials. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) seems an unlikely resource for Civil War maps, but guess again. Their Historical Map and Chart Collection at http://anchor.ncd.noaa.gov contains a wealth of state, regional, and state-sorted Civil War maps which you map view or download. (Hint: Select download and then view before saving to see the full-size image.) And let us not forget the tremendous collection of cartographic resources online at Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/reference/maps/main.asp). The maps in the Ancestry.com databases cover most areas of the world and are specifically geared to your historical research. There are maps ranging from the Middle Ages to the more recent maps of the U.S., Canada, Europe, and elsewhere. My subscription to the Ancestry.com databases pays for itself in many ways, but access to this treasure trove of online historical maps is free to all visitors. THE SKY IS NOT THE LIMIT! There are no limits to the map resources you will find online, and these even include contemporary and the historical star charts drawn by some of the great astronomers of history. Are these important to your research? They are if you want to understand your ancestors' perception of their place in the universe. As you can see, there are many Internet resources available. All you have to do is look for them. Invest a little time being a modern explorer and use your browser to discover new geographical resources on the Internet. Happy Hunting! George CITATION CORNER This week I cited a book about maps with an editor rather than an author, and which also is the third edition of the book. These two situations require a little additional information for the citation. Here is how you would write a citation for that specific book. Makower, Joel, ed. The Map Catalog, Every Kind of Map and Chart on Earth and Even Some Above It. 3d ed. New York, NY: Vintage Books, 1992. When using a map to document your findings or to list information found on a map as evidence, you also should use a source citation. Because maps are less common than other materials, it is usually important to also include the owner or repository where it can be found. Here is an example of such a citation. Johnson, A. J. "Johnson's North Carolina and South Carolina." New York, NY: A. J. Johnson, 1865. Copy at National Archives and Records Administration Branch, Cartographic Division, College Park, MD. To indicate that you have used an online version of a map, you would also add the Web site address and the date you accessed the site, as in the following example. Paullin, Charles O. "U.S. Public Post Roads and Main Stage Routes, 1774." Washington, DC: Carnegie Institution of Washington,1932. Online http://www.ancestry.com/rd/map.asp?ImageID=578 Accessed 15 November 2001. __________________________________________________________________ George G. Morgan is a proud member of the International Society of Family History Writers and Editors, Inc. (ISFHWE) at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cgc/cgc2.htm. He would like to hear from you at atl@ahaseminars.com but, due to the volume of e-mail, he is unable to answer every e-mail message received. Please note that he cannot assist you with your individual research. Visit George's Web site at http://ahaseminars.com/atl for information about speaking engagements. Copyright 2001. MyFamily.com. All rights reserved. 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Dear Subscribers, This is NOT genealogy related so delete right now if you wish. I personally know that several people on this Lorain County list are struggling & hurting due to the loss of marriage, home, job, self-esteem, the death of a spouse or child, and some trying to deal as best they can with a terminal or overwhelming illness. There is no better time than right now to be happy. Remember that happiness is a journey, not a destination. A cousin, who is a business women & author in Houston, sent me a long uplifting email message (though not religious in nature) that I am willing to share if you wish, just mailto:nmmeyers@centurytel.net & ask me for it. In the meantime, listers, everyday is a gift: So work like you don't need money, Enjoy your family history research, Love like you've never been hurt, and dance like no one's watching. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Sylvia, You sent your email to everyone on the list, I think! Because I have no idea what you were talking about Katt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia A. Lee" <alm@cros.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:31 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] LORAIN COUNTY membership > I have asked before and received "I will check into it". Do you want membership or not? Sorry to send this through but in all good faith I sent a check on September 1st,2001 for the $12.00 membership as my Grandparents were from Lorain County and I still have an Aunt and Uncle there. Am I a member or must I send in more the first of the year? I have gotten no reply in the mail since 9-1-01.It is as I said before the LORAIN COUNTY OGS Chapter. Mrs. Sylvia Lee > 1451 Oak Harbor Road Lot 19B > Fremont,Ohio,Ohio 43420 (Sandusky County Kin Hunters since they began) > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

I have asked before and received "I will check into it". Do you want membership or not? Sorry to send this through but in all good faith I sent a check on September 1st,2001 for the $12.00 membership as my Grandparents were from Lorain County and I still have an Aunt and Uncle there. Am I a member or must I send in more the first of the year? I have gotten no reply in the mail since 9-1-01.It is as I said before the LORAIN COUNTY OGS Chapter. Mrs. Sylvia Lee 1451 Oak Harbor Road Lot 19B Fremont,Ohio,Ohio 43420 (Sandusky County Kin Hunters since they began)

No - one said 'you're ugly' - and the others were just as un-informative. But I do wonder if the information about the mail list was gotten from the archives which anyone has access to. Best bet is to update your virus program and check your hard drive. I'll let you know if anything accompanies your e-mail or after it, in case you did contract a bug that attaches itself to your e-mail. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mennellfam@aol.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 27 November, 2001 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] E-mails with attachments > Gail, > > Did one of the e-mails have a subject of " A little more Cheese in LaGrange > Township" ? > > I'm a littled worried about it? > > Mona > > Reply to: mennellfam@aol.com > Visit my website: > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html > Researching Surnames: Mennell, Nichols, Caldwell, Gage, Kimball, Crow, > Palmateer, Sampson, Taylor and many, many more. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >