Hi Nancy; You are tapping my memory from 25 years ago, but here is what I recall the Torrenised land system to be. In Ohio it is called the Registered Land system. In Lorain County there were only 4 areas where this system of recording of records apply. Unless something has happened to take them out of the system the system still applies. There is one small parcel of acreage, about 2 acres, in the northern part of Brownhelm Twp I believe it is now in the City of Vermilion. The other 3 areas are recorded subdivisions. One in east Lorain, one in Avon Lake and I believe the other to be in North Ridgeville, but it could be Avon or Avon Lake. I believe the subdivision in Lorain is called Colorado Park and lays between Colorado Ave and East Erie Ave. Idaho Avenue? This subdivision has normal size building lots and is developed with many homes. The 2 subdivisions in the eastern part of the county consist of 20-25 foot lots. I heard from some old timers that they were given away at movie houses in the 20's in Cleveland as a come on to buy additional lots. These subdivisions were just beginning to be developed in the late 70's by combining several lots. The land must be registered by court order at the request of the owner. After being registered the title is handled similar to the auto title system. The new owner is given a Certificate of Registration that shows the legal description and a map of the property by the county recorder. The certificate unfolds to about the size of a card table. Any liens, easements, mortgages or releases are shown on it. A duplicate is kept in the County Recorders office in a separate set of books. Most things concerning the title of the land must be put onto both the original and the one in the recorders office by the recorder. Some tax liens are excepted. The owner must surrender the certificate at the time of sale. It is quite easy to search the title of registered land as most of the work can be done in one place and the State basically insures the title. The problem is knowing the land is registered. There is nothing to alert you to that fact, you just must know. Many hours can be wasted looking for deeds and mortgages in the normal indexes. There is so little of it that most of the recorders employees know nothing about it and there was no special notations on the tax maps. All additions or corrections gladly welcomed. David Maynard Franklin NC dmaynard35@home.com At 01:39 PM 1/10/02, you wrote: >Dave M., >As a former employee of a title company in LC, could you please give the >subscribers on this list a very simple and short explanation of >"Torrenized" land that once existed here in LC. >The subject came up the other night at the Black River Genealogists >meeting, & I had not realized that so few understood the Torrens system >of registering land. Thank you. >-- >Nancy > > >==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page >http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

Dave M., As a former employee of a title company in LC, could you please give the subscribers on this list a very simple and short explanation of "Torrenized" land that once existed here in LC. The subject came up the other night at the Black River Genealogists meeting, & I had not realized that so few understood the Torrens system of registering land. Thank you. -- Nancy

Hi listers. Here are the surnames and queries that were posted to the Lorain County webpage in December. The address is below in my signature. Sue Surnames:NISKEY, BASH, TAGGERT, REED, MARINGER, SCHUMACHER, SCHNEIDER, BIERMACHER, SAYERS, CLAPP, COURT, WITT, GRONSKY, KINDLE, GIBSON, SALISBURY, ESKINS, TAFT, NEFF, MAVEK, KODRE, JELERCIC. Queries: ANNABLE, ATKINS, INGERSOL, GASKILL -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Regarding Gail who has information on Lorain High School Yearbooks, I tried to contact you at the E-Mail address given, but could not reach you. I know you said only 1920 to 1940, but if you come across one from 1950, i would like to purchase it. Thank you. Shirley Schremp MASS573@AOL.Com

For Sale: 1920 through 1940 Lorain High School Year Books. (This Lorain City, Lorain County, High School is no longer in operation as a High School) $15 each. Contact me privately if interested and I will send you the information on whom to contact. Gail, Ohio dover@adelphia.net

The SS Death Index lists a Gilbert/Stephan/Stephen BUT this is not the one I am looking for. I have talked with one of Gilberts sons and this family is caucasian. Ironic is his father was WW2 vet, in the Army, in Belgium but was in a different division. I am searching for Gilbert Stephan/Stephen, afro-american, born approx. 1923, Ohio and served in the Army in Belgium in the 58th Quartermaster Division and greatly assisted the family of William GILLET in the town near "Belgium on Bressoux (near Liege) the barracks General Leman. I have e-mail photo of Gilbert. William and family want to thank this gentleman or his descendants for his help. Thanks for any and all help. I have Mr. GILLET's home address and e-mail to give. David Heller Cincinnati, Ohio

Need assistance in finding this gentleman and or his family. His name is Gilbert Stephan/Stephen. He was born in or approx. 1923. He was in the US Army 58th Quartermaster and stationed in Belgium. He is of African-American descent. When in Belgium he assisted a family thru the very rough times and they wish to thank he and or his survivors. They do not know much more of this gentleman but did send a picture and their home address. If anyone can help in this, please contact me. My father-in-law was contacted by this Belgium family and he asked me to assist. Can anyone help?? I am sending this to each county that has this surname in the phonebook in hopes of someone recognizing the name. Thanks. David Heller Cincinnati, Ohio dlheller@fuse.net

Hi Listers, I need some feed back from all you listers. My husband is currently transcribing the genealogy department of the Wakeman Library and then Claudia Garner is posting it up on the internet to the Wakeman Library site. They are thinking of stopping this! We have so much more to do and would appreciate any views you have on this subject. Wakeman Library is located in Huron County but many of the surnames mentioned are from surrounding areas. I, personally, have been tracking my BEAM surname from Lorain to Huron County. Currently Lowell is transcribing a book about Camden, which is in Lorain Co. They are all related to some extent. This is a small community with a very nice library and a great interest in genealogy! I would hate to see this fold. We have many new ideas that we would like to see up for everyone to view. When we get a new book transcribed, Claudia usually lets everyone on the lists know and when that happens, she gets about 300 hits the first day! WE KNOW PEOPLE FROM THE LISTS ARE USING THIS SITE! PLEASE HELP US BY WRITING ME AND LETTING ME SHOW YOUR E-MAIL TO THE POWERS THAT BE. Thanks so much for your time. Linda Dunlap swallow@accnorwalk.com ----- Original Message ----- From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] 2002 intentions > Fellow Researchers, > Really did not make any headway on my personal "lines" in 2001 but > certainly enjoyed helping some other people find pieces to their > genealogy puzzles. > My own personal new years resolutions will include my old standbys of: > eat wisely, exercise more & regularly, read my Bible more often, getting > more organized. > New resolutions will include: > getting rid of "stuff" that we have not used since we have been married > (early 1993); > then totally review collected data, edit, update sources & then do > needed circle searches on just one > surname at a time; > give up some old & purely social club meetings & take on a new & > meaningful > part-time volunteer commitment this year. > -- > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

Thank You Nancy. That was the one Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy <lamamama@bright.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Interesting post cards online > Ken: > > Are you looking for this site? > > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/index.html > > > Nancy Plain > www.ohioparks.net/countrystage > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Gooden" <goodenuf@nethere.com> > To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Interesting post cards online > > > > I have a new computer and I lost my bookmarks. I want to get the Lorain > > County web site and Have no Luck . All I get is the roots web general web > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

Jennifer, Sorry to be so long in responding to your message. I have had a lot of trouble with my computer and my e-mail. My husband's family has Diederich, Wohleber, Schmitz, and Weber. Some of the family spelled Diederich in a different way, but I don't have any indication that it was ever spelled Dietrich. Matt Wohleber married Rose Weber. Frank Schmitz married Emma Diederich and Peter A. Schmitz married Margaretha Diederich. They all lived in Russia township. Any connection? Dawn Linden ----- Original Message ----- From: "jennifer pluta" <mrs_pud@yahoo.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] roll call > > The Lorain County names I'm researching are: > > my family: Dietrich, Wohleber, Laux, and Schmitz; > > my husband's family: Demko, Pruchnicki, Budny, and Pluta. > > ~Jennifer Pluta > > mrs_pud@yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

> then totally review collected data, edit, update sources & then do > needed circle searches on just one > surname at a time; What is a circle search? Jean

Ken: Are you looking for this site? http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/index.html Nancy Plain www.ohioparks.net/countrystage ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Gooden" <goodenuf@nethere.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Interesting post cards online > I have a new computer and I lost my bookmarks. I want to get the Lorain > County web site and Have no Luck . All I get is the roots web general web

Does anyone have any information on any of the following? Northrup, Esther m. John Mandeville Northrup, Electa m. Charles Munsinger Northrup, Metildah m. William Rhinemuller Northrup, Orlidah m. James Patterson Northrup, Richard m. Lois Louisa Knickerbocker Northrup, John Wesley, Jr. never married. Died from Civil War wounds but I can't find records. Northrup, Joel b. Lorain County Northrup, Eunice m. Joseph ------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01

Ken, The mailto OHLorain-L, is in fact the mail list. At the bottom of your message was the correct address for the Lorain County Web Site. If you will click on this URL at the bottom of this message you will go to the page. ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen I'd hate to lose it, too. dh

<A HREF="http://www.centuryinter.net/lorgen/">Lorain County Ohio Genealogy</A> Click on this, it should take you there. Mona Caldwell Reply to: mennellfam@aol.com Visit my website: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html Researching Surnames: Mennell, Nichols, Caldwell, Gage, Kimball, Crow, Palmateer, Sampson, Taylor and many, many more.

I have a new computer and I lost my bookmarks. I want to get the Lorain County web site and Have no Luck . All I get is the roots web general web site. i want Lorain County. I thought it was mailto:OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy <lamamama@bright.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Interesting post cards online > Take a look at this web address...some nice Lorain Co postcards to see.... > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~geojenk/elyria.html > > Nancy Plain > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

Fellow Researchers, Really did not make any headway on my personal "lines" in 2001 but certainly enjoyed helping some other people find pieces to their genealogy puzzles. My own personal new years resolutions will include my old standbys of: eat wisely, exercise more & regularly, read my Bible more often, getting more organized. New resolutions will include: getting rid of "stuff" that we have not used since we have been married (early 1993); then totally review collected data, edit, update sources & then do needed circle searches on just one surname at a time; give up some old & purely social club meetings & take on a new & meaningful part-time volunteer commitment this year. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

I am helping my father-in-law find a former army buddy of his named Alford Harmon. He was born in Philadelphia, PA around 1940 or 1941. He spent three years at Fort Brag in the 82 ABN DIV and was in Vietnam in 1965 in the 1st CAV DIV. His wife was named Evie. ===== >From the Email Account of: Tim Ayers (615) 337-0210 Researching these surnames: Murphy, Wells, Johnson, Small, Jones, Stroder, Anderson, Basey and Ball (KY/OH); Ayers (MD) "Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. " __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Vermilion is in Lorain and Erie Counties. Erie County has a mailing list. It's been run by Maggie. This is from her welcome message: "What is OHERIE? A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in Erie County, Ohio. Interested individuals may want to check out the Erie County OHGenWeb page (http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/Erie/erie.htm). Mailing address for postings is oherie-l@rootsweb.com. To subscribe send the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) as the only text in the body of a message to oherie-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or oherie-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode). " I am sure they have a Genealogy Chapter. I don't have that information. Gail in Ohio, Wishing all a wonderful 2002 > Hi I have a relative that was born in Germany . She died in 1913 in > Vermillion. > Does Huron have a Geneology group I could contact? I am trying to find out > where she was born. The information I have is she was born in Hitchenhausen > Riehn, Bayern. I or anyone else. Itried the German Research Assoc. Here In > SD Ken > with no luck. They tred the phone directories CD's with no luck.

Hi I have a relative that was born in Germany . She died in 1913 in Vermillion. Does Huron have a Geneology group I could contact? I am trying to find out where she was born. The information I have is she was born in Hitchenhausen Riehn, Bayern. I or anyone else. Itried the German Research Assoc. Here In SD Ken with no luck. They tred the phone directories CD's with no luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 8:35 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] non-OH memories > Christmas time brought a lot of memories to my father Wells CLAY > (1911-1960). > Many happened in his family around Dec. 25th. His parents, natives of > JoDaviess Co.IL wed in December 1896 at Stockton IL. They had had 8 > children, & with one living but a few hours. They farmed 125 acres > Pleasant Valley Twp. On December 26, 1906 they moved to Brown Co. SD, to > take over & run a livery business for an older relative & also had 5 > acres for a milk cow & a garden. > On Dec. 24, 1910 they were forced to return to IL because my grandfather > had a heart attack and was no longer able to do manual labor. Their 15 > month old daughter died just six days later on Dec. 30th. > They leased & ran a small general store in Zion Grove of Woodland Twp. > Carroll Co. IL > Grandpa felt he could manage & direct activities from his chair. Even > that became too much when Grandpa had a second attack became bedridden. > Grandma decided to close the store, after business on Christmas Eve day > in 1920. The two oldest daughters were married by now & a 3rd worked out > on "confinement cases". > The family moved to Savanna IL (on the Mississippi River) where there > were doctors and an chance to earn a living in some way for her > family. Later that evening, after closing the business for good, the > children were allowed to select a gift for themselves from any of the > merchandise that was left in stock. My father remembers picking out a > pocket knife & a pair of work shoes that were about three sizes too big. > (he stuffed rags in the toes) His sisters chose yards goods for > themselves. > The family moved into an old house in Savanna IL. With four rooms down & > two up, she converted the two front rooms into a public lunch room, that > she named the Cottage Inn. Grandpa's invalid bed was in a 3rd room next > to the kitchen where Grandma cooked. That is where my father learned to > be such a good cook & baker. > Grandpa died there on December 25, 1927. Grandma kept the Cottage Inn > until December 24, 1930 when she was remarried to one of her regular > lunch customers. A bachelor, 10 yrs her junior, a Capt. in the USA, > having been stationed at the Proving Grounds in Savanna after he > returned from China in 1920's. > He was being transferred to Selfridge Field MI and did not want to leave > this lady behind. > The day after Christmas in 1930, my paternal grandma moved to MI with > her new husband, my father & his brother six years younger. That is how > I came to be born in MI. > I now understand, in part, why my father always seemed to be so > melancholy at Christmas time. > He never had a Christmas tree until he was married himself. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >