In a message dated 1/16/02 1:55:30 PM !!!First Boot!!!, LIZMAC@prodigy.net writes: << Apparently you work nights. I've noticed the hours that you answer my e-mails. God bless you!!! >> Yes I do, for a year now - prior to that I was a stay at home mom, volunteer at the school made 40 choir vest-single handed, a stage set (really neat) for Heather's Shakespear sampler etc. Then Tracy was laid off after 23 years and about every two weeks there was another round of lay offs (major lay offs) at local and national places which made looking for a job even more difficult. I went to work at Sears as seasonal help and then Beckett was hiring, I had a friend there - she has since gone to 1st shift. It is factory work not my cup of tea or within my realm of experteise but you do what you have to do and thank God because in Novemeber Tracy had a catastophic heart attack, it is a mirale he is alive, we have insurance and a pay check. Financially I dont know what lays ahead now work for him looks not like an option at least for a bit but it has been a wonderful faith walk (sort of reminds me of the science fiction movies where the fellow is walking down the floorless corridore and just as he steps forward the floor comes up and meets his footfall. Thanks for the look up, are you on the Lorain County line at rootsweb , you can post inquires there and everything??? OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com I think all you do is copy the address and put subscribe in the subject line and I also do it in the body but I'm not sure if it is needed there. Gotta run so much to do, still trying to figure out eating and sleeping its just everyone keeps making these morning appointments, I dont remember to take a nap and then about 10:00pm it hits me with the reality that I have to stay up Gotta dash Thanks

I've tried hard to thank every person individually, but I'm sure to have missed some - there were so many. I just can't believe the response I received from everyone. You folks on these mailing lists have just overwhelmed me!!! I had to fight back the tears of joy as I began reading and saving and printing the information. I appreciate the suggestions I have received, the notes of sympathy, empathy and support and most of all the great outpouring of friendship I felt. No, not friendship, but kinship! A special thanks to all of you. Sharon GenBound@aol.com

I like this poem. It reminds me of my great grandmother, who lived in Pittsfield. She was a washer woman. Washing was a way for her to make "pin" money. Deb > >The Clothesline Said So Much > > > > > >A clothesline was a news forecast > >To neighbors passing by. > >There were no secrets you could keep > >When clothes were hung to dry. > > > > > >It also was a friendly link > >For neighbors always knew > >If company had stopped on by > >To spend a night or two. > > > > > >For then you'd see the fancy sheets > >and towels on the line; > >You'd see the company table clothes > >With intricate design. > > > > > >The line announced a baby's birth > >To folks who lived inside > >As brand new infant clothes were hung > >So carefully with pride. > > > > > >The ages of the children could > >So readily be known > >By watching how the sizes changed > >You'd know how much they'd grown. > > > > > >It also told when illness struck, > >As extra sheets were hung; > >Then nightclothes, and a bathrobe, too, > >Haphazardly were strung. > > > > > >It said, "Gone on vacation now" > >When lines hung limp and bare. > >It told, "We're back!" when full lines sagged > >With not an inch to spare. > > > > > >New folks in town were scorned upon > >If wash was dingy gray, > >As neighbors raised their brows, > >and looked disgustedly away. > > > > > >But clotheslines now are of the past > >For dryers make work less. > >Now what goes on inside a home > >Is anybody's guess > > > > > >I really miss that way of life. > >It was a friendly sign > >When neighbors knew each other best > >By what hung on the line > > > > >

Hi, I wondered if anyone on this list would know of a location that had archived editions of the Birmingham Clarion newspaper? Thanks. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] 1900 & 1910 indexes > Sharon, > To search for LC people in 1900/1910/1920 you can order the soundex > microfilm at any Family History Library (fka LDS). Some public libraries > will also order those thru interlibrary loan. Fees will apply. > The nearest Ohio soundex films to us would be located at the Western > Reserve Historical Society in Cleveland. > Lorain County does have a work in progress & soon to be completed for > 1900. > The nine southern LC townships for 1900 were published in 1991 by the > Wellington Genealogical Group. > Do own a copy of that if you need a lookup from those nine townships. > -- > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > A proud RootsWeb Supporter > Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com > Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/ > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

Who is Mrs. Sarah E. HARRINGTON who married widower Charles H. AVINS, of Avon Twp., Lorain County, OH, on 27 Aug 1878? Charles H. AVINS may be listed as Henry C. AVINS. I found this marriage entry on a microfilm for Lorain Co and wondered if the Justice of the Peace, C. H. Doolittle, practiced in the Avon Twp. area exclusively.... I have found this additional information: According to 1880 Census for Avon, Lorain Co., OH, Mrs. Sarah HARRINGTON was born ca 1852 in England. She brings into the marriage a daughter, Lillie L. HARRINGTON, b ca 1872, OH. By ca 1883, Charles AVINS remarries - was Sarah deceased by this time and where is Lillie? I have more information on the other lines that marry into the AVINS line: GORDON, TOWNSEND, HUMES, BEARD, BENHAM, LOKER, LINDEN, KLINE. I welcome your thoughts Gail, Ohio

Sharon, To search for LC people in 1900/1910/1920 you can order the soundex microfilm at any Family History Library (fka LDS). Some public libraries will also order those thru interlibrary loan. Fees will apply. The nearest Ohio soundex films to us would be located at the Western Reserve Historical Society in Cleveland. Lorain County does have a work in progress & soon to be completed for 1900. The nine southern LC townships for 1900 were published in 1991 by the Wellington Genealogical Group. Do own a copy of that if you need a lookup from those nine townships. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://raogk.rootsweb.com Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Hello, Can anyone tell me where I can get some names looked up in the 1900 and 1910 Ohio census indexes? Thanks! Sharon Swanson swansha@velocity.net

To all: I have visited an ELDRED site at that cemetery. I noticed a LAMBERT buried with them. Do you have any information on that line as it relates? My gr. gr. grandmother was Almira LAMBERT, b July 1823 in NY. She married John BRASIE (Brazee) in Elyria, Lorain Co., OH, on 20 June 1842. She lived in LaGrange/Carlisle/LaPorte and died 15 January 1862. She is buried at LaPorte Carlisle Cemetery. I find nothing on the LAMBERTs locally - I am at the conclusion her family had just stopped her on their way somewhere when she met and married John Brasie and stayed her by herself. Thx in advance to anyone who can help me. Gail, Ohio > I have a group of Eldred/Squire(s) at North Murray Ridge Cemetery - I have > come across some wonderful geneolgical information for anyone interested > contact me off line. >

Hi Sharon, To avoid losing your URLs, you might want to save them to disk or CD. I put all my URLs in Internet Explorer's Favorite folder under another folder labeled with my name. I then locate the file on my hard drive - for me it's in the Windows folder - and then file it to a diskette. Good luck on rebuilding your file. I know how devastating it is. Hope this helps. Jan Jan Bergeron janb@ma.ultranet.com

I have a group of Eldred/Squire(s) at North Murray Ridge Cemetery - I have come across some wonderful geneolgical information for anyone interested contact me off line. BTW did you know if you were taken Prisoner Of War during the Revolutionary War that they charged you for your ?????detainment????? There is a document of receipt from Samuel Eldred. He was a personal friend of George Washington and went to fight with him, he was captured twice.

Sharon, In the future you may want to know that you can run URLs from a disc. I have saved my URLs on a floppy. I also have gone to a zip drive for all of my VERY IMPORTANT information. Then, if you crash, the information is ALWAYS there. I know it is too late for you this time, but for others, it may be a good idea. I also learned the hard way. I am also interested to learn more about HIGHLAND CEMETERY of Lorain Co. and/or ELMWOOD Cemetery. Bob N

Thanks, Anna The URLs you sent will really help. Sharon

Everything in my filing cabinet including 12+ years of URLs were lost and seem to be unable to restore. Please help me create a new list by send a few that you find most helpful. I can never replace what I lost, but help me start over and at least quickly replace most of my websites. Thanks sooooo much! Sharon

Sharon, Here are my top ones in my bookmarks on genealogy menu: http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/index.html (OHLorain's site) http://www.rootsweb.com/ http://www.familysearch.org/ (LDS site) http://genforum.genealogy.com/ http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/ http://olivetreegenealogy.com/index.shtml http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/ http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/html/obit_about.html?sessionid=01-1853-729750171 (Cleveland Lib. Necrology file) And don't forget http://www.google.com. Those are some I use at various times. Hope that helps! Anna GenBound@aol.com wrote: > Everything in my filing cabinet including 12+ years of URLs were lost and > seem to be unable to restore. Please help me create a new list by send a few > that you find most helpful. > I can never replace what I lost, but help me start over and at least quickly > replace most of my websites. > Thanks sooooo much! > > Sharon -- Want to fight a battle without leaving home? Support your local chapter of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society and help others win against this disease! (http://www.nmsswas.org/default.html Greater Washington Chapter).

Wonder if any of you folks, whose ancestors died before 1899 in the Amherst or Black River Township areas, have come across the name HIGHLAND CEMETERY of Lorain Co. in your records? This was the very early name for the ELMWOOD Cemetery & would like to add that information to the Elmwood database that is still a work in progress. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Penny, I have no information for you. However I thought as you did about Ellis Island. I thought it was funny when I found out my grandfather came by way of Toronto. Happy searching. Ruth

I'd never so much as heard of such a thing until I read it on this site. I began searching, but didn't find anything nearly as explicit as what Dave sent. Thank you so much Here is a little history on it--it is named after Sir Robert Torrens (1814-84). an Australian statesman. Torrens Law is any of vaious statutes that provide for the registration of the title to land with the government, which issues a warranted title deed (Torrens Certificate) to said land. Torrenize means to register (property) under a Torrens Law. Still clear as mud, but it seems to be a type of registration, which guarantees the right to the land, but the land must already be subject to Torrens Law. Is this a common practice in Ohio. I've done lots of on-the-site research in Ohio and have found Metes and Bounds as well as regular Government Townships of 36 sections, but have never uncovered one of the Torrens Certificates, just warranty and quit claim deeds. Jennie Vertrees backwood@grm.net Jennie Vertrees backwood@grm.net

Try this site http://olivetreegenealogy.com/index.shtml

Hello fellow searchers, I have never done any census look up's and have recently found that my GGgrandfather is on one in Erie county. But I need to know some thing else. Now that he is showing up, is there a place to look and see what ship he may have came over on? He did not come through Ellis Island, he came over in 1825. Where can I look?? Thanks, Penny

Thanks, Dave, for the explanation to our fellow LC listers. In the 1960's & early 70's, when I was involved in a residential building business with a former marital partner, we purchased many pieces of this type of land in Sheffield Lake in LC, most at Sheriff's sales. When the current Lorain County recorder took office in the early 90's, she explained to a group of us researchers that the Torrenised system no longer existed in this county. I am glad of that because it was all no clearer than mud anyway. BTW, that is when I first met Dave who explained the Torrens system. Our loss was NC's gain. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH