Hi, Found this in a book, sorry I dont have the referrence right handy but it was in the Ridgeville section. "Moses Eldred and family came into the township in 1813, and located in the western part. At that ime there was not a house west of them nearer than Florence, Erie county. In 1815 the Sextons, who had settled east of Mr. Eldred, moved further west on the same ridge. .........." While the article was interesting this was the only mention of the Eldred family. I will try and locate the face page that I copied to document this piece. Marilyn

Nancy, I wish I had known about all of those before I went to the library. I will have to wait to look them up another time. Thanks for the heads up. Ruth Ann

In a message dated 03/23/2002 4:23:01 AM Central Standard Time, OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > <A HREF="mailto:OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com">OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com</A> What is the cost of belonging to OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com ? I'm leaving Texas next week, will arrive at my permanent home on April l. I plan on keeping AOL for the first month, then probably transferring to a local ISP. When I arrive in Ohio, I want to begin connecting with a local genealogical club. I live 120 miles west of Oberlin, Lorain County, now. My address will be: Wilda Collier 16159 Rd. 16 Lyons Oh 43533 My E-mail address will continue to be wcollier2@aol.com until further notice. Would you let me know how and if I should join a local Oberlin group, and also the particulars for joining OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com. Thanks. Wilda

I encountered the same type of treatment in Michigan. I wrote to the Wayne County Clerk's office to get a copy of my grandparents' marriage certificate. I sent the required fee to them. Several months later I called to see why I had not received a reply. I was told that there was no record of the marriage. They kept the fee. I felt that I had been 'had.' Later, a gracious lookup volunteer in Michigan found the marriage record in the Wayne County archives and sent me a copy of it. Quite the opposite treatment was given me at the Amherst Historical Society. Mr. Orville Manes sent me numerous copies of records and newspaper articles on my family. We corresponded several times. He put me in touch with a distant cousin of mine who was also researching our genealogy. Although I did not personally know Mr. Manes, he exemplified the small town hospitality and helpfulness that I associate with most small towns. (I live in a small town.) Thanks for giving me the opportunity to vent about Michigan officials. Barbara (Reinhardt) Wewahitchka, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: <BobNMi@aol.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:29 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: OHLORAIN-D Digest V02 #74 > The question of Amherst belonging to what county brings up another subject > for me. So I want to take the time to say that the people in Huron County > Deeds office and vital record office are the nicest people. That is also > true in Lorain County. I live in Michigan and have many times went into a > County Clerks office where vital records are kept and the people have acted > like "How dare I interrupt their sleep" In Michigan researchers are sometimes > regarded as the enemy. This is not true in all offices, however, it is true > in enough of them to make visiting some of these counties a real pain. The > people in Huron County acted as if they could not do enough for me when I was > there last summer and I think their kindness should be pointed out. You lucky > people in Ohio. Thanks > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

The question of Amherst belonging to what county brings up another subject for me. So I want to take the time to say that the people in Huron County Deeds office and vital record office are the nicest people. That is also true in Lorain County. I live in Michigan and have many times went into a County Clerks office where vital records are kept and the people have acted like "How dare I interrupt their sleep" In Michigan researchers are sometimes regarded as the enemy. This is not true in all offices, however, it is true in enough of them to make visiting some of these counties a real pain. The people in Huron County acted as if they could not do enough for me when I was there last summer and I think their kindness should be pointed out. You lucky people in Ohio. Thanks

Amherst was in Huron County prior to 1824.

In the 1880 census index, there is listed a John KOPPLEBURGER on page 309B of Amherst Twp. LC. Using the 1880 CD, you can easily browse thru all the names on pages 309A, 309B & 309C for Lorain Co. and you perhaps find some names of lateral lines. Also in 1880, Wm. KOPPLEBURGER is on page 419C of Wadsworth, Medina Co. In the 1870 LC census index, Alice KOPELBURGER is listed on page 368 in Black River Twp of LC. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Thanks to all who put me straight on Amherst. Ruth Ann

I have a notice of death in the news paper ( Medina Co. Gazette) dated 2-22-1889. It mentions a Tobias Koppelberger's death and that he was buried in Amherst. The children he left behind are buried in Woodlawn Cemetery in Wadsworth twp., Medina Co. I don't remember any Koppelbergers being in Lorain Co. Of course Woodlawn may not have been around in 1889 and that is why the family is not together. Any thoughts? Ruth Ann

Thank you . That was quite interesting. I have just realized my family spent some years in Medina Co. 1850-18??. It is worth saving. Ruth Ann

What: Brighton History Night When: Friday March 22nd, 2002 6:00 PM soup & sandwich 7:00 PM program & dessert will be served following the program Where: Brighton Congregational Church 22086 State Road 511 in Brighton Twp. (west of Wellington) Cost: $5.00 Proceeds to benefit the church building fund Hope to see you there! -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Believe you need to be in Medina Co. for info on Windfall. The history of Amherst is complicated. It has belonged to many counties as well as several townships. Williams Brothers HISTORY OF LC, 1879, page 325, gives a chronology of the formation of Amherst. Before Amherst's records were forever attached to Lorain County, the would have been in Huron Co. If you think your ancestors lived in the Amherst area before 1824,go to Huron Co page webpage and they have a list of the earliest settlers. Take a look at how Huron County evolved that was written by HCC Historian, author & lecturer Henry Timman. ---------------------------------------------------------- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Amherst was probably always in Lorain County. Windfall is a small crossroads just east of Medina on Rt 18 just past I-71. The big Medina Antique Mall is near there.

Was Amhurst in Lorain Co ever a part of Medina Co.? Is there a Windfall in the Amhurst area? Ruth

The Cuyahoga-West Chapter of OGS had an interesting program on early Dover/Troy Twp., Cuy. Co. Keith Sheldon, of the Bay Village Historical Society gave the program. Remember that northeast LC was part of Cuy. Co. before Lorain became a county unto itself. If you are having trouble locating info on your earliest northeast Lorain Co. ancestor, prior to 1824, they just might be included in the book I purchased. It has some bio information as well as lists such as the early Lakeview cemetery owners, 1812 township electors, 1820 families, etc. Of course some of your lateral lines may have remained in Dover Twp. after 1824. ------------------------ Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Good morning list, I seem to be having another problem. Can anyone tell me if a child would be named Abel or Abraham and then later use the other name. Like Marie and Mary. Ruth Ann

Re your question concerning Windfall, it was in Medina County. (description below) Gad Blakeslee was my 4th gr gradfather. <http://www.sunnews.com/news/2001/part2/0802/SNAMES.htm> The Brunswick Sun Times, August 2,2001 Places of the past remain as memories Aug. 2, 2001 BRIGADOON was the mythical town that appeared from the mists of the Scottish highlands in the Broadway musical and subsequent movie. Medina County, on the other hand, has towns that have disappeared into the mists of time. Well-known in earlier times, these crossroads never became full-fledged communities and, in most cases, even the road signs that once marked them have vanished. Most are named in honor of the families that settled them: Coddingville, Clark's Corners, Remsen Corners, Bennett's Corners and Beebetown, for instance. Some were named for the places from which the settlers came, like Weymouth. Some were named in honor of another person - usually a wife or other relative, like Boneta. Some have other origins, like Custard Hook. • Only Coddingville Road and Coddingville Cemetery remain as physical reminders of the people who trekked here from the east, probably taking the "military road," which is now state Route 18. According to Bob Hummel of the Granger Library and Historical Society, Coddingville was shared by both Granger and Sharon Townships (Granger is also named for an early settler who purchased the land from the Connecticut Land Company) and the spot most longtime residents remember is the dance hall. The building, which now bears little resemblence to an entertainment center, probably originated as a stagecoach stop, he said. The second floor was outfitted with a "springboard" floor for dancing and was an extremely popular night spot for many years. The earliest settlers of Sharon Township, who were "squatters" rather than settlers, built a log school house as early as 1822 where Coddingville was later located. When the westbound lane of Route 18 was built, it wiped out almost everything on the north side of the road except a few homes. "The whole westbound lane is in Granger Township and the dividing line is the middle of the eastbound lane," Hummel said. • Remsen Corners which lies in Granger Township was named for its settlers, but their last names were Remson. Somewhere along the line the 'o' became an 'e' as it is today. The Remson properties, which were held separately from Granger for about 25 years after the township originated, were also numbered separately from Granger properties so there were actually two plats with the same sequence of numbers in the township, Hummel said. • Windfall is the corner of Route 18 and Windfall Road and this crossroad once had a school, store, post office and blacksmith shop. Wolves were particularly plentiful and after 18 of Gad Blakeslee's sheep were killed, the settlers discovered their "hideout" in Windfall. They set traps, catching "nine old wolves and a lot of young ones." • Boneta, which is at the crossroads of Sharon-Copley Road and Boneta Road, is also marked by a railroad crossing which makes for an adventurous drive through the intersection. Boneta means beautiful in Spanish and is alleged to have been named in honor of the niece of one of the early settlers, Abraham Shontz. At one time, Boneta had a slaughterhouse, cheese factory, school, icehouse, blacksmith, grain elevator and a passenger and freight stop at the railroad crossing. • Troy Corners on State Road and state Route 18 was laid out into lots with hopes that it would become a big city, which it never did. Also, at the corner of Beach and Fixler roads, was a place called Kaytown or Cada Town, where a woman named Kate ran a store. • The entire 16,139 acres of Sharon Township were owned by William and Richard Hart, Samuel Mather Jr. and Gaylord Griswold who bought it for $26,087 in 1807. When it was surveyed, it was called Gash or Gask in honor of the home parish in Scotland of the homebuilder for Hart and Mather. The township was later known as "Mather's Town" or "Hart and Mather." Later, the name Sharon was offered in honor of Sharon, Conn. from which some of the settlers had come. The eastern town had been named for the Plain of Sharon in what is now Israel. • Custard Hook is a Wadsworth area locale at the intersection of Wall Road and State Street. It was named for an alleged event. A railroad track runs alongside Pifer Road and the story goes that a hobo jumped from a train at the crossing and "hooked" a custard pie from the window of a nearby home. The name stuck. • Western Star, on the township line about equally divided between Wadsworth and Norton, lies two miles east of what was called Wadsworth Village Corners. Western Star was incorporated by act of the legislature in about 1837 and consisted of about one mile each way from a public well which stood on the county line. • A place called Weaverville, according to the History of Medina County published in 1888, was in the neighborhood of the Wadsworth Coal Company mine in the southeast corner of the township. • Biglow Chapel was also on the township line, about a mile and a half north of Western Star. • One name that still persists is Clark's Corners about two miles from downtown Wadsworth where state Route 94 makes the big curve as you drive from the north into town. • River Styx has many interesting stories connected with its unusual name. One story says that settlers, trying to burn out a rattlesnake den, destroyed the forest and all the game in it for miles around. They were so discouraged and, faced with starvation, hopelessly they nicknamed the settlement, River Styx. For many years the "town" was called Wilson's Corners for one of its prominent settlers, but another town in Ohio had the same name. Another legend credits the Indians with naming the village because of the difficulty of paddling canoes on the small, cluttered stream. They called it the sticks river and the settlers were supposed to have changed the name to River Styx. The town was said to be the site of the first match factory in Ohio where "fire sticks" were manufactured. The factory later moved to Barberton. One bizarre story is that one of the local residents "enthusiastically" kept the Cleveland medical colleges supplied with laboratory material by grave robbing. It was so bad that residents began burying their dead in out-of-town cemeteries with the result that David Wilson built a stone vault with a triple plank door in the village graveyard so the dead could rest in peace. • Acme was first named Millerburg in honor of Samuel Miller, a pioneer. Acme is located between Wadsworth and Seville on Greenwich Road. • Hinckley had little communities with names like Hinckley Ridge, Whistle Alley, Egypt Corners, Whipp's Ledges (now part of the Metroparks), and Worden Corners. • The new Medina elementary school is named for Harrison G. Blake and there was also a town named "Blake," which for many years was called Steamtown because it had a sawmill, cider mill and blacksmith shop. But when the post office decided to establish a post office there, the residents wanted a more "dignified" name and chose Blake. It is south of River Styx. • Originally, Sharon Township and Montville shared 75 acres of water-bogged land called "Bear Swamp" by early settlers. Bear Swamp Road remains to this day • Montville, of course, is still home to "Poe" which continues to be marked by a road sign across the street from the former Poe School which is now the town hall on Route 57. • Bagdad was the high sounding name given a little settlement in Medina Township. It went well with Mecca, which later became Medina. Promoters planned to make Bagdad the principal town and county seat. James Warner operated a sawmill and a grist mill and there was also a store located there. A Congregational church was also built. A carding machine and fulling-mill were operated by water power in Bagdad, but the ambition of the promoters was never realized. The fulling-mill was the last industry to pass into oblivion. In early days, the people of Weymouth also thought their community would be the metropolis of Medina County. When Zenas Hamilton built his cabin in 1814, it was nearer to Weymouth than Medina and it was the location of the first school. But Medina had an advantage over Weymouth once the railroad was built through Medina. In 1874 there were two churches in Weymouth, Congregational and Methodist. The Congregational church is now Weymouth Community Church which just celebrated its 166th anniversary. There was a cheese factory and flour mill. While the mills are gone, Weymouth continues to thrive and be among the most beautiful communities with the Rocky River running through it. The community has become a little more quiet now that Route 3 runs around instead of through it as it used to do. Bennett's Corners continues to hold on to the name given to it thanks to an early family. A one-room schoolhouse was located there and West 130th St. in early days ended at Marks Road. Today, the Bennett's Corners Cemetery and the Methodist Church retain the name of that community. • Sherman's Corners was located at the intersection of Route 303 and West 130th St. and was marked by the beautiful brick home of Cornelius Sherman who settled here in the 1830s. In what is now the middle of the intersection, a watering trough used to stand for the convenience of those passing through on horseback. • Beebetown is located on Marks Road near Boston and its church, which for many years continued to offer services in German for the area's residents, continues to stand alongside the old cemetery. The church is now serving the congregation of St. Patrick's Episcopal Church. A blacksmith shop that once stood at the intersection is part of the Strongsville Historical Village. © 2001 Sun Newspapers ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! 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Thought I would jot this quick note off to you in reference to my SMITH/MINARD family mystery. I have a lot of names in my genealogy for the children of Thomas Edwin (1853-1914) and Mary Jane (Minard, 1875-1945) SMITH of Elyrie City, Lorain County, Ohio. Family stories even state that they had 16 children, but the 1900 Michigan census and 1910 Ohio census only comes up with 11. Looking at just the children of this family, there two census records show: SMITH, Tulus?, dau., WF, Mar1880, 20S, MI/OH/Can ------, Mabel, dau., WF, Feb1882, 18S, MI/OH/Can ------, Clayton, son, Dec1883, 16S, MI/OH/Can ------, James, son, Feb1886, 14S, MI/OH/Can, at school ------, Ella, dau., Mar1889, 11S, MI/OH/Can, at school ------, Jewitt, son, Mar1891, 9S, MI/OH/Can, at school ------, Henry, son, Sept1892, 7S, MI/OH/Can, at school ------, Maude, dau.,May1894, 6S, MI/OH/Can, at school ------, Francis, dau., ??1897, 3S, MI/OH/Can 1910 Son George A 32 Michigan, Teamster Son Clayton E 26 Michigan, Machinist, Auto Factory (listed in 1910) Son James D 24 Michigan, Machinist, Steelworker (listed in 1910) Son Jocertte? N 19 Michigan, Shipping Clerk, Steelwork ( (listed in 1910, assumed Jewitt?) Son William H 17 Michigan Dau Frances W 13 Michigan (listed in 1910) So, other than older son George (not in 1900 census) and younger William (not sure where he was in the 1900 census) I don't have any new children listed in the 1910 census. So this would put the census provable offspring count at 11. And what I do have in my genealogy data, but NOT in the census info is info I can't match (one of these is most likely "Tulus" and potentially the married name for Maude SMITH as well): Mrs Gerald NAU Mrs Jack CARSON Mrs Joan BLIZZLY Mrs Phillip BARR Mrs. ? HOOD Mildren (SMITH) ALCOTT Mrs Deane ROGERS Anyway, any further assist on this "SMITH" line would be most helpful! Any other relatives related to this line that can help me with building the missing 5-7 members? Thanks in advance. William Silverthorn Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

Hi Nancy, I hate to bother you, but wonder if you could forward a copy of the 1924 Tornado deaths. I deleted it by accident and then found out that there was a Eunice Beam listed. Thanks for any help you can give me. Linda Dunlap ----- Original Message ----- From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] I have a lot of STB's > STB...Three Letters To Avoid Genealogy Pitfalls, > an interesting article from the Ancestry Daily News > http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/5427.asp > -- > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >