To lists interested in Columbia Station: I was down to North Ridgeville for a few days last summer and was able to take a photo of the old Schoolhouse where my Mother went to school and it was a brick one and kept up very good. Also took a Photo of the housee my Mother and her parents Asa and Daysie Taft lived in when she went to school in that schoolhouse. I was proud to see a schoolhouse kept up so good.Sylvia -----Original Message----- From: OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com <OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: OHLORAIN-D@rootsweb.com <OHLORAIN-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:05 AM Subject: OHLORAIN-D Digest V02 #81

I remember a small diner that was on Route 20 West of Elyria as I used to live down the road from it. It was on the curve out of Wakeman as I used to have to walk down the road to Route 20 to across from the diner to get the school bus to go to Wakeman School. I do believe it is gone now. Sylvia Cannot remember what the name of it was as that was in the 1940's and I did not pay too much attention to names at that time. -----Original Message----- From: OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com <OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: OHLORAIN-D@rootsweb.com <OHLORAIN-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:05 AM Subject: OHLORAIN-D Digest V02 #81

Thought it was time to publicly thank Judy Kelble and Sue Strick who have helped the Lorain County researchers so much thru the years. Judy was our first LC electronic discussion list owner until mid March 1998, then Sue Strick took over. Judy got really busy at her Huron Co level and being as a State Co-ordinator. Sue has served as the web master all these years at http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen Hope you get a chance to check back from time to time to all those list messages that have been archived. Have you looked at some of the oldest queries posted at the webpage? They go back to mid March of 1997. It has been six years! Hope the efforts of these two dedicated ladies, and the lookup volunteers, have helped you with a brick wall and made a connection or two. Annually we read "Roll Calls" at various lists we belong to. Everyone hoping to get a new lead on their ancestors. Would like to hear some success too once in awhile. Happy & Blessed Easter to all. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Wow! Is the store still there??? I drive thru there occasionally and several buildings look old, but WOW! if the building from 1812 is still there. This amazes and delights me. My boss, from Wetzler/Lahn, Germany, said "you Americans tear buildings down and put up new ones. In Germany, we up-date the existing buildings" There are buildings hundreds of years old over there. I love older buildings (as long as they are structurally safe and up to code. I love this site! Absolutely! Alice

Alice, Gedcom is an abbreviation for Genealogy Data Communication. If you have a genealogy program such as Family Tree Maker or Brother's Keeper, you have the ability to exchange information with any other program. GEDCOMs can be read by any genealogy program. Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Hi My Dad spent his young life around horses and he drove a lot of them. I asked him once how fast does a horse go? He said " about 4 miles an hour. As Oberlin and Amherst are about 5 miles from Elyria I would say a about 1 1/2 hours. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <Naberssj@aol.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: 1850s travel around Lorain Co. > Travel between Oberlin and Elyria in 1852 would have likely been done in what > manner--train, buggy, etc? How long would it have taken? Same question > between Amherst and Elyria about 1870s. > Sarah > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Thanks Curt, for adding to Columbia information. Your family has been in LC since 1900 so you probably are more familiar with the township infromation than I am. I brought my own family here in the mid 60's. While employed at the LCHS, I was fortunate to have had rewarding acquaintances with three of Columbia Township's historians thru the years. Mary Melnyk (who gave wonderful programs on antique jewelery) Bob MacIntyre, writer and a former Trustee of LCHS and the late genealogist/historian Lucille MacClellan. My last visit to the Columbia Historical Society and the Bronson House was over three years ago. So tell us what is happening out there these days? I did get a copy of their 1995 book on the local greenhouses. Will make a call to the Society soon because I am very curious about the name Copopa. It was really big business, in fact that is what brought me here. My husband had worked for a company that traveled the country buidling new glass greenhouses and repairing those that had some storm damage. There were so many greenhouses in Avon, Columbia, Elyria & Ridgeville townships. It was a very large LC industry at one time. Now to the map....Bob had told me long ago, that a 1808 map of Columbia Township is owned by the Olmsted Historical Society. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Travel between Oberlin and Elyria in 1852 would have likely been done in what manner--train, buggy, etc? How long would it have taken? Same question between Amherst and Elyria about 1870s. Sarah

Tony's diner at W 117th & Lorain -- believe it was sold and moved? Senior moment. I know there was a news broadcast (CH 5 ?) done there the last day it was open. Sorry I cannot recall the year, either. Alice

I enjoyed the information you had to share The information that I had was from general knowledge of the township. My family came to the township about 1900. I remember getting the mail at the post office, behind the train depot Station Rd and the RR. This was behind Kawalski's General Store. The stockade was 1/8 mile south of Rte 82 on Rte 252. This was built during the War of 1812. This is near Columbia Hills Corners. Columbia Center is Columbia West River Rd and Rte 82. There is a Baptist Church, Methodist Church, Fire Station, All 3 schools, township cemetery, and park at this location. I was busing my little knowledge of the community history and a Columbia Township Community Guide. I invite you to contact the Columbia Historical Society for information. Bronson House PO Box 983 13646 West River Rd Col Station Oh 44028 (440) 236-8437 or (440) 236-8170 OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > OHLORAIN-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 80 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Q [Cathy Martin <martin.abba@juno.com] > #2 [OHLORAIN] Fw: [CAGG] Cleveland La ["Nancy" <lamamama@bright.net>] > #3 [OHLORAIN] IRISH/MOORE [LL44095@wmconnect.com] > #4 Re: [OHLORAIN] Diners in OH [MMBoehn@aol.com] > #5 [OHLORAIN] IRISH [NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net] > #6 Re: [OHLORAIN] IRISH [LL44095@wmconnect.com] > #7 [OHLORAIN] Re: Fraternal organizat [Naberssj@aol.com] > #8 [OHLORAIN] Re: OHLORAIN-D Digest V [Coweyes2u@aol.com] > #9 [OHLORAIN] Have an interest in the [NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net] > #10 [OHLORAIN] Wellington Dining Car ["G M G" <dover@adelphia.net>] > #11 [OHLORAIN] Columbia [NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net] > #12 Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Q ["mike engle" <speigletown@hotmail.] > #13 [OHLORAIN] MOON, COOPER, CARPENTER ["MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.co] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from OHLORAIN-D, send a message to > > OHLORAIN-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Query > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:14:48 -0500 > From: Cathy Martin <martin.abba@juno.com> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Mike, > > Good luck on your diner search! Do you recall the name of the diner in > Wellington and where it is located? My 87-year-old mother grew up there. > How was it different from any diner you had seen before? > > Cathy Martin > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Fw: [CAGG] Cleveland Ladies > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:37:45 -0500 > From: "Nancy" <lamamama@bright.net> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > There's a section on Elyria ladies in this 1879 article... > > Nancy Plain > www.ohioparks.net/countrystage > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cuyahoga Genealogy" <cuyahoga@cox.net> > To: <OHCAGG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:49 PM > Subject: [CAGG] Cleveland Ladies > > > > > > > Thanks to Ken and Pat Stafford, our Cuyahoga site has a neat transcript > > from an 1879 Plain Dealer. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyah2/oddsends/newyears1879.html > > > > "The time-honored custom of making New Year's calls bids fair to be even > > more generally observed to-morrow throughout the United States than usual. > > It is a fashion which is neither old enough to call for a history of its > > origin nor new enough to require explanation. The beginning of a new year > > is recognized as an opportune time to renew old friendships and form fresh > > ones. In some places it is a practice to make New Year's day a time for > > revising acquaintance and the gentleman or lady's circle of friends for > the > > ensuing year is circumscribed by the calls or cards received-for where > time > > or inclination prevents a call the card is sent. An omission is taken as a > > hint of a wish to discontinue acquaintance. The custom, however, does not > > generally take on such importance but the caller exchanges the compliments > > of the season in a brief visit at as many places as is convenient and the > > failure to call upon a friend seldom implies any significance further than > > the inability to make the entire circuit of friends. > > > > "We have been at no little pains to compile a list of the ladies of > > Cleveland who will "receive" tomorrow and we herewith present it as > > complete as we have been able to make it. The publishing in the newspaper > > of such lists is a matter of no little convenience to all concerned, as > the > > callers are enabled by them to map out their routes for the day, while the > > absence of a lady's name from the list is an indication that she is not > "at > > home." > > > > > > ==== OHCAGG Mailing List ==== > > VISIT OUR NEW HOMEPAGE AT: > > www.rootsweb.com/~ohcagg/ > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] IRISH/MOORE > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:09:14 EST > From: LL44095@wmconnect.com > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Does anyone have the index for the Wellington Cem.? I am trying to locate > the burial place of a forefather named Eunice Irish Moore. She died before > 1870. She is not buried with her husband. I believe her brother is Andrew > Jackson Irish. He is buried in Wellington. Can anyone tell me the names of > the people buried around him? I believe their parents are Nathan and Almira > Powers Irish. I am also looking for where they are buried. They may have > lived in Carlisle. Thanks. Jackie > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Diners in OH > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:09:54 EST > From: MMBoehn@aol.com > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Yes it was Tony's diner-Sorry to hear it is gone. I am in CA winters and > rarely get to that part of town when home for the summer. > Mary > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] IRISH > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:48:54 -0500 > From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Greenwood Cem of Wellington, was not included the 1980 LC Cemetery > Inscription book. > Greenwood lots: > #1418 2 graves internments of SUTLIFF's > #1419 2 graves internments of CODDING's > #1420 2 graves Andrew Jackson IRISH age 77-2-12 buried May 2, 1916 > Nina C. IRISH age 77-4-16 buried Feb. 7, 1927 > #1421 3 graves 2 internments for MURCH and 1 for LaGRANT > #1422 no mention of this lot number > #1423 Sara NICHOLS age 73 buried Oct. 6, 1903 > #1424 & 1425 no mention of these lot numbers > #1426 2 internments for KNAPPS, 1 for Harriet PARKS > > -- > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] IRISH > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:49:59 EST > From: LL44095@wmconnect.com > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Thanks so much for your quick reply. You time is greatly appreciated. Jackie > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: Fraternal organizations > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:01:36 EST > From: Naberssj@aol.com > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Have any of the Lorain Co. fraternal organizations published their > memberships lists from 1800s--such as Odd Fellows, Masons, etc.? Are certain > chapters willing to do look-ups? I have an ancestor who was an Odd Fellow > (I.O.OF.) about 1880s in Elyria. > Sarah > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: OHLORAIN-D Digest V02 #79 > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:19:28 EST > From: Coweyes2u@aol.com > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > it used to be called tonys diner(117th and lorain). > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Have an interest in the Wellington? > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:21:57 -0500 > From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > If interested in Wellington, click http://www.wellingtonohio.com/ > Be sure to click on the history link as well as the photo gallery. > Patience, it may take a long time to load. > -- > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > A proud RootsWeb Supporter > Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org > Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/ > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Wellington Dining Car > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:44:22 -0500 > From: "G M G" <dover@adelphia.net> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Within the Wellington site is a nice picture of an old dining car: > > http://www.wellingtonohio.com/gallery/ViewPics.php?ID=8 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] Columbia > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:52:53 -0500 > From: NM Meyers <nmmeyers@centurytel.net> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Curt, > I have read in Williams Bros. 1879 History of Lorain County, page 155, > column 2, that at the time of its organization, Columbia Twp was part of > Geauga County, then in 1818 it became part of Cuyahoga Co., in 1824 it > became permanently attached to Lorain Co. > I have thought that Copapa was just the name of a settlement within the > Township itself. The Copapa post office on the 1857 map, lot 35, right > near Columbia Centre which was in the center part of Columbia Twp. > Columbia Station, another community in the northwest part of the twp and > was located on lots 83 & 84, near the RR and the present day Root Rd. > That Copapa P.O. was in use from 1824 til 1904 when the mail servicing > was relocated to Columbia Station P.O. > Never knew when the Copapa school was built at the Centre. > Love learning about LC history & would like to read more about the name > of Copapa. Can you please direct me to that source of information? > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Query > Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:42:05 -0500 > From: "mike engle" <speigletown@hotmail.com> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > Cathy, > > It used to be the Wellington Diner, which also had a gas station, all > based upon the picture. > The significance of the diner is that no one has seen a diner of that > specific style. On the original picture, there are two monitor windows on > each side. No diner manufacturer that is documented ever did this. > Hopefully I can find the answer somewhere. Everyone on these lists has > been a great help so far! > > Mike engle > > >From: Cathy Martin <martin.abba@juno.com> > >Reply-To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > >To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Query > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:14:48 -0500 > > > >Hi Mike, > > > >Good luck on your diner search! Do you recall the name of the diner in > >Wellington and where it is located? My 87-year-old mother grew up there. > > How was it different from any diner you had seen before? > > > >Cathy Martin > > > >________________________________________________________________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > >==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > >http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [OHLORAIN] MOON, COOPER, CARPENTER, KEYES 1800s > Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 02:41:27 -0500 > From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> > To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > > I am a descendant of KEYES, CARPENTER, and DAILY families from > Lorain Co. Ohio. > > I am interested in some collateral lines that might in the long > run help to solve some major brick walls. > > A Theodore Jasper CARPENTER m. Mary Ellen MOON 12 Sept 1856 in > Avon, Lorain, OH. Does anyone know anything about her parents and > siblings? > > Also, David and Polly COOPER had a daughter Lavina Carley Cooper > b. 1804 and likely a daughter Sarah Eliza Cooper who married Lyman > Tuttle. They also had a son and perhaps some other children. Does > anyone know anything about this COOPER family?

Hi Nancy, I have read the term "gedcom" for a couple years -- feel really illiterate, but, what is a "gedcom"? Alice

Mike, while your looking. A diner once stood aprx 3 miles west of Wakeman as I recall. You could check Wakeman Hiatorical. Another in Clyde, was called Cammies? Duane ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike engle" <speigletown@hotmail.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Query > Cathy, > > It used to be the Wellington Diner, which also had a gas station, all > based upon the picture. > The significance of the diner is that no one has seen a diner of that > specific style. On the original picture, there are two monitor windows on > each side. No diner manufacturer that is documented ever did this. > Hopefully I can find the answer somewhere. Everyone on these lists has > been a great help so far! > > Mike engle > > > >From: Cathy Martin <martin.abba@juno.com> > >Reply-To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > >To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Query > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:14:48 -0500 > > > >Hi Mike, > > > >Good luck on your diner search! Do you recall the name of the diner in > >Wellington and where it is located? My 87-year-old mother grew up there. > > How was it different from any diner you had seen before? > > > >Cathy Martin > > > >________________________________________________________________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > >==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > >http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

I am a descendant of KEYES, CARPENTER, and DAILY families from Lorain Co. Ohio. I am interested in some collateral lines that might in the long run help to solve some major brick walls. A Theodore Jasper CARPENTER m. Mary Ellen MOON 12 Sept 1856 in Avon, Lorain, OH. Does anyone know anything about her parents and siblings? Also, David and Polly COOPER had a daughter Lavina Carley Cooper b. 1804 and likely a daughter Sarah Eliza Cooper who married Lyman Tuttle. They also had a son and perhaps some other children. Does anyone know anything about this COOPER family?

Cathy, It used to be the Wellington Diner, which also had a gas station, all based upon the picture. The significance of the diner is that no one has seen a diner of that specific style. On the original picture, there are two monitor windows on each side. No diner manufacturer that is documented ever did this. Hopefully I can find the answer somewhere. Everyone on these lists has been a great help so far! Mike engle >From: Cathy Martin <martin.abba@juno.com> >Reply-To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com >To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Diner/Lunch Wagon Query >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:14:48 -0500 > >Hi Mike, > >Good luck on your diner search! Do you recall the name of the diner in >Wellington and where it is located? My 87-year-old mother grew up there. > How was it different from any diner you had seen before? > >Cathy Martin > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > >==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page >http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Curt, I have read in Williams Bros. 1879 History of Lorain County, page 155, column 2, that at the time of its organization, Columbia Twp was part of Geauga County, then in 1818 it became part of Cuyahoga Co., in 1824 it became permanently attached to Lorain Co. I have thought that Copapa was just the name of a settlement within the Township itself. The Copapa post office on the 1857 map, lot 35, right near Columbia Centre which was in the center part of Columbia Twp. Columbia Station, another community in the northwest part of the twp and was located on lots 83 & 84, near the RR and the present day Root Rd. That Copapa P.O. was in use from 1824 til 1904 when the mail servicing was relocated to Columbia Station P.O. Never knew when the Copapa school was built at the Centre. Love learning about LC history & would like to read more about the name of Copapa. Can you please direct me to that source of information? Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH

Within the Wellington site is a nice picture of an old dining car: http://www.wellingtonohio.com/gallery/ViewPics.php?ID=8

If interested in Wellington, click http://www.wellingtonohio.com/ Be sure to click on the history link as well as the photo gallery. Patience, it may take a long time to load. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

it used to be called tonys diner(117th and lorain).

Have any of the Lorain Co. fraternal organizations published their memberships lists from 1800s--such as Odd Fellows, Masons, etc.? Are certain chapters willing to do look-ups? I have an ancestor who was an Odd Fellow (I.O.OF.) about 1880s in Elyria. Sarah

Thanks so much for your quick reply. You time is greatly appreciated. Jackie