Richelle, Thanks so MUCH for posting this! I found loads of great-aunts and uncles. Jeanne >The probate of two of my ancestors' estates gave the addresses of the >decedent and children. Lorain County Probate Court now has records online: >http://www.loraincounty.com/probate/search.shtml

In a message dated 4/11/2002 8:43:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Re5212@aol.com writes: > The probate of two of my ancestors' estates gave the addresses of the > decedent and children. Lorain County Probate Court now has records online: > > http://www.loraincounty.com/probate/search.shtml > > Thanks - Norma has to also include probate information and certified death certificates but the one item that is troublesome is the proof of residence from when Uncle Carl was a very young married man RENTING in Amherst because that address is what is listed on the insurance policy. Good thoughts out there, thanks. I know someone has had to deal with this type of brick wall before Marilyn :-) None of the legal professionals even have an idea as to where to begin to look - nice to have geneology as a passion as well as my wonderful geneology friendships

In a message dated 4/11/2002 6:53:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, miprofgenie@wwnet.net writes: > Have you considered land and/or tax records? Those land records should be > available and so should the tax records. > Good thought - they were rather newly married and did not own the property they were living at. Thanks :-) Marilyn

The probate of two of my ancestors' estates gave the addresses of the decedent and children. Lorain County Probate Court now has records online: http://www.loraincounty.com/probate/search.shtml Good luck, Richelle Parma, OH

How about tax records, school records? Duane ----- Original Message ----- From: <MennoTy46@aol.com> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:54 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Documentation Help > I found a entry in the unclaimed funds for a great uncle who has passed away. > An insurance policy. He and the family lived in Amherst at the time (1920, > 22, 23 something. We got the necessary death certs but one other necessary > piece of proof is proof or residency at this place at this time. Any wisdom > out there as to how to document this. An old utility bill would be heaven > but..... Where there telephone books back then, I know there might have been > city directories and then there is the census but it that considered valid > and acceptable proof. I have not looked yet (time constraints - aint got > none - time that is) > > I know you guys will know a direction to point us in. > Marilyn > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

Marilyn, Have you considered land and/or tax records? Those land records should be available and so should the tax records. Good luck! Karen Clay Family Gathering 2002, Lexington,Ky http://www.clayfamilyonline.org/cfg2/ Oakland County Michigan GenWeb http://miprofgenie.com/genweb/mioakland/ Professional Genealogy in Michigan, http://miprofgenie.com Obits, Courthouse, cemetery & census -----Original Message----- From: MennoTy46@aol.com [mailto:MennoTy46@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:55 AM To: OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHLORAIN] Documentation Help I found a entry in the unclaimed funds for a great uncle who has passed away. An insurance policy. He and the family lived in Amherst at the time (1920, 22, 23 something. We got the necessary death certs but one other necessary piece of proof is proof or residency at this place at this time. Any wisdom out there as to how to document this. An old utility bill would be heaven but..... Where there telephone books back then, I know there might have been city directories and then there is the census but it that considered valid and acceptable proof. I have not looked yet (time constraints - aint got none - time that is) I know you guys will know a direction to point us in. Marilyn ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

I found a entry in the unclaimed funds for a great uncle who has passed away. An insurance policy. He and the family lived in Amherst at the time (1920, 22, 23 something. We got the necessary death certs but one other necessary piece of proof is proof or residency at this place at this time. Any wisdom out there as to how to document this. An old utility bill would be heaven but..... Where there telephone books back then, I know there might have been city directories and then there is the census but it that considered valid and acceptable proof. I have not looked yet (time constraints - aint got none - time that is) I know you guys will know a direction to point us in. Marilyn

Does any one know if any of the listed newspapers on the Lorain web site that were available in 1851 covered the Huntington area? For instance, in IL the Pontiac Daily Leader also had sections [just one column up to a whole page depending on the size of the town and the news/gossip!/etc. residents were willing to put in] dedicated to surrounding communities throughout the county. I am looking for a marriage and an obit...most especially the obit. Thanks... Jo Ellen in MI

Hi, Just received this information to share with you. Sue For immediate use in genealogy society newsletters and bulletins: Complete 1930 Census Now Available at Western Reserve Historical Society When some 30 shipping boxes containing microfilm of the 1930 Census of the United States arrived at the Western Reserve Historical Society early in April, the staff and members of the WRHS Genealogy Committee were ready and waiting. For weeks, committee volunteers had been rearranging the existing microfilm collection to make room for more than 3000 rolls of microfilm, and preparing labels for the microfilm boxes. On April 8, more volunteers assembled in the WRHS library to unpack, sort, label, and file the new microfilms. When the library opened its doors on April 9, the 1930 Census was ready for use by genealogy and family history researchers. Officials believe that the society is the first repository outside the National Archives system to make the entire census available to the public. Leading up to the release of the 1930 Census, WRHS was one of only about twenty repositories nationwide to offer the complete census. With the 1930 Census, new information will be available about grandparents, aunts and uncles, parents, and other relatives in the form of answers to 32 questions asked about and recorded for every person. More information was gathered about people living in the United States in 1930 than in any previous census. The 1930 census data includes information not only about where a person lived, how old they were, and the relationship to the head of the household, but also whether the home was owned or rented, value of the home if owned, age at first marriage, place of birth and native language, citizenship, occupation and employment, and military service, if any. The census even records if there was a radio in the household. Some 117 million people were enumerated in the 1930 census. How to find a particular individual in those millions will be more of a challenge than in previous censuses because only limited indexing is available. We're accustom ed to using Soundex microfilms for the 1880, 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses and printed indexes or CD indexes for the 1870 and earlier censuses to locate our ancestors. Such complete resources won't be available for the 1930 census, at least initially. Soundexes were completed only for Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia, plus seven counties in Kentucky and seven counties in West Virginia. The key to finding ancestors in the 1930 Census will be knowing the enumeration district (ED for short) they lived in. The boundaries of an ED were established so that an enumerator could cover it in as little as two weeks or as long as four weeks after the official start date of April 1, 1930. An ED might be several city blocks in densely populated urban areas or two or more townships in sparsely populated areas. If you know where your ancestor lived, the next step is figuring out the ED. Knowing the ED, you can determine what microfilm to look through--and that is what you will have to do: scroll through the microfilm line by line to find the person or persons you're looking for. The Western Reserve Historical Society has acquired the entire set of 2,667 rolls of census film, and all the available soundex microfilm for the 12 southern states. To assist researchers, a number of finding aids are available at the library, including a set of microfilms of ED maps compiled by the Census Bureau. Finally, WRHS library staff and volunteers have been trained to assist visitors with research in the 1930 census microfilm. The Western Reserve Historical Society is at 10825 East Boulevard, Cleveland, Ohio. For more information about the library, its hours, and its genealogy holdings, call 216-721-5722, or visit the society's website at www.wrhs.org and click on Visitor Information ó Genealogy News Service, Western Reserve Historical Society. ***** Distributed by the Genealogical Committee, Western Reserve Historical Society, Mary Lou Bregitzer, president; Dick Fetzer, vice president; Bill Allen, secretary; and Don Kern, treasurer. If you have questions about the above news feature, contact Wally Huskonen at 440-526-1238 or wallyhuskonen@worldnet.att.net

Hi, Have you visited the Lorain County Genealogy lookup page? I have just added more Lorain Hi yearbook and Lorain City directory lookups by volunteer Paula Brosky-Short. Do you have a lookup to volunteer? http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/lookups.htm Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Nancy, This Lorain County webpage gives a list of Lorain County newspapers that are on microfilm. The years are given. Contact the library to ask for an obituary. http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/newspaper.htm Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Hi Nancy, My father's parents were Polish and Ukrainian. One of Dad's uncles was Stanislaw (Stanley, I believe). Recently Stanislaw's great granddaughter, Hanna, visited me from Europe. She and her family always called him Eustachy. During her visit, we went through some of his letters in which he made reference to his son, Stanislaw. He called him Stanislaw, but when he sent his son's address to Hanna's family, he used the name "Eustachy" instead of Stanislaw in the address. We think that perhaps Eustachy was a more formal name for Stanislaw. I will ask my cousins about the name, "Harry." Cathy Martin ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Nancy, I've come across Stencil and Stanislaus for Stanley in researching my Polish ancestors. Paula Brosky-Shorf

Need a little input from you folks that have middle European ancestry. Would like to read some of the original Czech, Polish, Russian, Hungarian etc. spellings you may have come across in your research, for the given names of Harry and Stanley. These American versions were used here in Lorain County about 1905. Thank you. -- Nancy M. Clay Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

I have a Mildred as follows: LAST NAME FIRST NAME RIN # BIRTH YR Neligan Mildred M. 295 1922* Is this your MIldred?? Must be a mistake in year. Only NELIGAN I have in Elyria Births. Nick --- Richard Leonard <rmleonard@csupomona.edu> wrote: > Many moons ago - or last week - I am not always > sure... > > > Veronica Catherine Wolf Married James Cornelius > Neligan > in Loraine (circa 1910) (Elyria - to be more > precise) > > together over the next 6 years he fathered 4 > children with her > 3 survived the last was stillborn > > at some point circa 1916-1918 they went their > separate ways > > she, in what I can only think of as "a fit of > female prerogatives", > renamed the 3 children lock/stock and > barrel.. > > The Children were raised in the area and > were known as > James Leonard born Dec 1910 > James Leonard Married Mary Spanick > I think James' Children are > still in the Loraine area. > > Mildred Leonard born Nov 1912 > Mildred Married Clarence Hambly > They are both buried in South > Carolina > > Carl Edward Leonard (Carl was born > Edward Joseph Neligan) > Carl was my grandfather. he was born > Oct 1914 > > Carl Married Theressy Pearl Ferdedich > however, Peyton Place rules seem to > apply > Her Name was Helen Elizabeth > Veres > Her Mother was Mary Molnar > Her Father was Joseph Ferdedich > he appears to have died > before "Helen" was born > Mary remarried Denes Veres > > > > Veronica went on to marry John Thomas > Leonard sometime after 1917 > (we think) > > > > > James Cornelius Neligan is currently an enigma. > James Cornelius Neligan > age 15-20 circa 1910 so born roughly > (his age was not consistent > over all 4 birth certs) > 1890-1895 > > > Any words of Wisdom on where to start? > > > > -- > *************************************************************************** > * Richard M. Leonard > * > * Technology Resource Coordinator, > * > * College of Letters, Arts, and Social Sciences > * > * California State Polytechnic University, Pomona > * > * Work : 909-869-4501 Fax : 909-869-4858 > rmleonard@csupomona.edu * > *************************************************************************** > I live in my own little world. But it's OK... they > know me here. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing > List > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Many moons ago - or last week - I am not always sure... Veronica Catherine Wolf Married James Cornelius Neligan in Loraine (circa 1910) (Elyria - to be more precise) together over the next 6 years he fathered 4 children with her 3 survived the last was stillborn at some point circa 1916-1918 they went their separate ways she, in what I can only think of as "a fit of female prerogatives", renamed the 3 children lock/stock and barrel.. The Children were raised in the area and were known as James Leonard born Dec 1910 James Leonard Married Mary Spanick I think James' Children are still in the Loraine area. Mildred Leonard born Nov 1912 Mildred Married Clarence Hambly They are both buried in South Carolina Carl Edward Leonard (Carl was born Edward Joseph Neligan) Carl was my grandfather. he was born Oct 1914 Carl Married Theressy Pearl Ferdedich however, Peyton Place rules seem to apply Her Name was Helen Elizabeth Veres Her Mother was Mary Molnar Her Father was Joseph Ferdedich he appears to have died before "Helen" was born Mary remarried Denes Veres Veronica went on to marry John Thomas Leonard sometime after 1917 (we think) James Cornelius Neligan is currently an enigma. James Cornelius Neligan age 15-20 circa 1910 so born roughly (his age was not consistent over all 4 birth certs) 1890-1895 Any words of Wisdom on where to start? -- *************************************************************************** * Richard M. Leonard * * Technology Resource Coordinator, * * College of Letters, Arts, and Social Sciences * * California State Polytechnic University, Pomona * * Work : 909-869-4501 Fax : 909-869-4858 rmleonard@csupomona.edu * *************************************************************************** I live in my own little world. But it's OK... they know me here.

I have called these folks for further info. I found out that you can make an appointment with them to do research there. There is a one month waiting list, which is fine so you can make a long list of what ones you want in advance. You are allowed one half a day there, being morning or afternoon. I will make an appointment and let you know what I find there and if it is worth the effort. --- Yolanda Lifter <ylifter@ohiofamilyresearch.com> wrote: > Yes, the price has gone up to $0.05. Postage is 1-5 > copies - $0.34, 6-13 > copies - $0.55, 14-20 copies - $0.76. > > The mailing address is: > > Ohio Department of Health > Division of Vital Statistics > P.O. Box 15098 > Columbus, OH 43215-0098 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Here are a few reasons for people moving from Vermont to Ohio: One reason was 2 cold summers with frosts every month. I believe these were in 1816 & 1817. Food became scarce. People needed a warmer climate to grow crops. Also, there was a great ecological disaster. The original settlers in Vermont cut down most of the trees to farm the land, hence no trees to absorb excess water. Snow melts and rains over the Green Mountains caused severe flooding (freshets), washing the soil into Lake Champlain. The land could no longer support the crops. No crops, no food. Hence, people moved West. As lands in the Western Reserve opened up after the War of 1812, and once the Erie Canal opened through New York State in 1825, access to Ohio lands was much easier and faster. Hence there was a 'flood' of people heading west. "Ohio Fever" was all the rage, and thousands of families moved to Ohio. Hope this helps. Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Sims" <sims@ixi.net> To: <OHLORAIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:31 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Migration to Ohio > Was there any particular reason that there are several family names in my family that moved from VT to Lorain County, Ohio? Were there land grants or something that brought them to your area? I don't know the history of your area. Where there other states that seemed to chose your area? I have people from New York that also settled there. Thanks for any information. Connie Sims > > > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

Was there any particular reason that there are several family names in my family that moved from VT to Lorain County, Ohio? Were there land grants or something that brought them to your area? I don't know the history of your area. Where there other states that seemed to chose your area? I have people from New York that also settled there. Thanks for any information. Connie Sims

I FOUND A ROOTSWEB SITE THAT TAKES MY CLARK FAMILY BACK SEVERAL GENERATIONS. I KNOW MY IMMEDIATE ANCESTORS LIVED IN THE HURON/LORAIN COUNTY AREA. THE WEBSITE SUGGESTS THAT THESE WERE THE FIRST CLARKS IN MY LINE TO MOVE THERE: ISAAC CLARK BORN 19 MARCH 1787 CLARENDON VT, DIED 23 OCTOBER 1842 IN PITTSFIELD TOWNSHIP,LORAIN CO. HIS MOTHER, ELIZABETH SMITH CLARK, WIFE OF WILLIAM CLARK WAS BORN 9 AUGUST 1764 IN WESTON,MASS. AND DIED 31 OCTOBER 1835 IN PITTSFIELD TOWNSHIP.WILLIAM CLARK DIED IN 1798 IN VT. IT APPEARS THAT ELIZABETH WENT TO OHIO WITH HER SON ISAAC. I CAN FIND ISAAC BURIED IN EAST PITTSFIELD CENTER 1842 BURIED WITH HIS SECOND WIFE, BALSOR M. DIED 1883. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY CAME TO LORAIN COUNTY AND SEEK CENSUS RECORDS TO SEE IF THEY WERE THERE. ALSO WHERE IS ELIZABETH CLARK BURIED? ISAAC HAD A SON,JEWETT CLARK BORN IN VT WHO LIVED IN HURON OR LORAIN COUNTY. HE WAS MARRIED TO CYNTHIA ADALINE WORCESTER. HER FAMILY SEEMS TO HAVE COME TO YOUR AREA ABOUT THE SAME TIME.! BOTH CYNTHIA AND JEWETT WERE BORN IN SUDBURY VT. JEWETT DIED IN TENN. DURING THE CIVIL WAR. WHAT NEWSPAPERS MIGHT HAVE HAD WRITE UPS ABOUT THESE FAMILIES? ARE THEIR ANY BOOKS THAT MIGHT CONTAIN THEIR NAMES? THE ONLY DEATH RECORD I SEE THAT MIGHT BE ON FILE IS CYNTHIA ADALINE WORCESTER CLARK'S DEATH 17 DECEMBER 1896 IN PITTSFIELD TOWNSHIP. SHE MAY HAVE USED HER MIDDLE NAME ADALINE. WHERE IS SHE BURIED? THANKS, CONNIE SIMS sims@ixi.net