Hi, I have a strange genealogy story that includes and Indian element. Would a person list themselves (or a census taker) as an Indian if they weren't?? My gr. gr. gr. grandfather married a much much younger woman after his first wife died and I have never seen anything about her being Indian until 1880. My gr. gr. gr. grandfather, David W. Sheldon married Mary S. or E. King on 20 DEC 1875 in Lowell, Seneca Co., Ohio. They had one son, Issac Truman SHELDON born about 1876. David W. was age 71 when they married. He died 12 JUNE 1877 in New London twp., Huron Co., Ohio. He was buried in Fitchville. Mary, his 2nd wife sued some of his children for his estate and won. Family stories say she jumped up and down on his bed when he ill so he would change his will because of her new baby. Then before the will was settled, Mary married again to Henry GRIFFIN on 13 JULY 1878 in Sandusky Co., Ohio. She had a daughter named Dollie/Dolly Griffin with Henry about 1879.Then I think Henry GRIFFIN died/divorced but I do not know where might even be Lorain county, OH for all I know. THEN I found her in the 1880 census: >Census Place: Tolono, Champaign, Illinois >Source: FHL Film 1254180 National Archives Film >T9-0180 Page 402A > Rel. Race Age Birthplace >Oscar DAVIS Self W 25 IN Occ: Laborer > Fa: IN Mo: >IN >Pet E. DAVIS Wife I 26 OH Occ: Keep. House Fa: -- Mo: >PA >Isaac T. SHELDON SSon I 3 OH > Fa: RI Mo: OH >Dollie GRIFFIN SDau I 1 OH Fa: OH Mo: OH She had moved to IL and married again but then later Oscar DAVIS citing abuse. By this time she was going by Pet which is a nick name, I saw somewhere. Anyway, in the above census whe is listed as Indian as are her son and daughter. But I have found no other record that she was an Indian. Is it possible that a census taker would list a person as an Indian if they were not Indian??? (Newest lead is I think she may possibly have married again but not sure in champaign Co., IL which may or may not be her: CONNELL, GEORGE W. married Mrs. Pet E. Griffin in CHAMPAIGN 08/31/1886 004/0179 but haven't been able to track that one yet.) If I ever track it and found out is she is actually an Indian, I would love it! I would love to have Indian heritage that I could prove even by a gr. gr. gr. step-grandmother. thanks, bonnie __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

The Great Lakes Chapter of the Association of Professional Genealogists is sponsoring an Advanced Genealogy Discussion Group. The next meeting is on Saturday, January 15, 2005. The purpose of the group is to discuss advanced genealogical methodology as presented in case studies that have appeared in various scholarly genealogical publications. The group meets the *third* Saturday of the month, starting at 10:00 am, at the Akron-Summit County Public Library, meeting room 3. The library is located at 60 South High St., Akron, OH. The meetings last about one and one-half hours. *Note change of location.* The discussions are free but pre-registration is required. Any experienced genealogical researcher is welcome to enroll. As a pre-requisite, participants should be familiar with Dr. William M. Litchman's article, "Teaching Analysis, Logic, and the Research Process: A Seminar Approach", from the NGS News Magazine, Nov/Dec 2000, pages 340-343. Each participant is requested to read several times, in advance of the meeting, the article to be discussed at the meeting. The article chosen for the January 15, 2005 discussion appeared in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Vol. 92, no.3, September 2004. It is titled "Identifying John Tapper, a German Immigrant Laborer in Early Nineteenth-Century Philadelphia, through the Records of His Children" beginning on page 165. To register, or for any questions, contact Donna Gruber at [email protected] or call (419) 846-3533.

I knew a man in Elyria he is passed on now. His name was Elmer Feming. My grandfather told me his father was Indian. The father disappeared, because the people was giving him and his family such a hard time. The mother brought her family up alone. My grandfather said he was a good person and it was a shame the way he was treated. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Old protraits > Estella: > > Thanks for the ideas about preserving old photos. I think everyone will > agree most topics relating to ancestors are acceptable here and often > spark lively > conversations. > > If you ever run across photos of the Newberry/Newbery family out of Ohio, > Iowa New York, I would be interested in knowing. Same for old Bibles etc. > > I too have Indian lineage that is unproveable, but we keep looking anyway. > One thing I have found is that families put the secret of their ethnicity > in > their back pocket and generally deny any lineage with the tribes. It was > safer > for them that way. > > I am collecting information from anyone who has ancestors like this, who > are > currently willing to talk about how their family treated the native > lineage. > Eventually, I would like to write an article or book about the practice > that > seems to have begun after the Revolution and probably before. You are > right, > there are very few sources for proving lineage, unless the family stayed > with > the tribe after about 1820, or when the government began making lists and > relocating the tribes to reservations. > > Sue > > Scouting for NEWBERRY/NEWBERY/NEWBURY family > Time frame being studied - 1740-1880 > > Main line - Newberry, > Connecting - Blackman, Burch, Benedict, Holly, Smith, Stephens > > Hannah Maria Newberry web site > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~hannahslife > > Known collateral names associated with John Newberry family of Warwick, > N.Y. > - Breffet, Bridgeford, Burt, Demerest, Durand, Fancher, Fitzgerald, Gray, > Scofield, Sly, Smith (Claudius), Stephens. > > Midwest and west: > Beebe, Benedict, Crandall, Duty, Haskins, Hyatt, Pendleton, Pulsipher, > Williams, Winegar, Wixom, > > Places where these folks lived - Groton, Conn., Stonington, Conn. > Ridgefield, > Conn. Warwick, Orange, New York, Patterson, Dutchess, N.Y.; Hanover, Pa.; > Brownhelm, Ohio; Far West Missouri and other counties in Missouri; Nauvoo, > Illinois; Lee County Iowa - "The half-Breed Tract" (Argyle); Pottawattamie > and Mills > County Iowa - Indian Creek, Indian Mill. - possible unproved stints in > other > states Indiana, Nebraska possibly Kansas and Vermont. > > Organizations in which families were involved: > Whigs, Tories, Mormons, RLDS, Baptists, Cutlerites, Native Americans > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2005 12:04:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > Hi Kenneth, > > I am an Antique Dealer from Tawas City, Michigan. You can see my Web Site > at: > > http://timeaftertimeantiqueshop.tripod.com > > Take the pictures to a Professional Picture Frame Shop. They will treat > the > edges and put them on Acid Free backings and then into a sealed picture > frame. I didn't mean to but in to your e-mail conversation...but..I am > also > on the rootsweb e-mail chat. So I have a lot of e-mail's come to me > through > them. I really hope this e-mail does not offend. > > I had been looking for my ancestors and contacted rootsweb a year ago. > The > people were wonderful there and I found out a lot from them about my > ancestors. I have an Indian Grandmother that I still can not find > though...we found her obituary and grave but nothing to connect her to an > Indian Linage. Of course, at that time the Iroquois was all but wiped out > in a Massacre and the remaining ones went into hiding either with other > tribes or married whites and passed themselves off as white or France, > Italian, etc. decent. Her name was Estella Mildred (Ward) Schmidt (later > changed to Smith). They lived in Amherst, Ohio and later Avon Lake, Ohio > and Lorain, Ohio. If you happen upon anything I would appreciate > anything. > > Wishing you the best in the New Year! > Blessings, > Estella > > If no one wants them I would love to have them. I am not related to any > Hickeys but I do collect old pictures. > > > > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

Does anyone have access to death notices that could look up Jospeh Taggett died August 1978. Social Security Index states his last residence was Cleveland but I have been told that might be where his last Social Security Check was mailed. He was living in Lorain County in the 1930's. I have info of a divorce from Lizzie Taggett. Thank you for other info. Sherri

Estella: Thanks for the ideas about preserving old photos. I think everyone will agree most topics relating to ancestors are acceptable here and often spark lively conversations. If you ever run across photos of the Newberry/Newbery family out of Ohio, Iowa New York, I would be interested in knowing. Same for old Bibles etc. I too have Indian lineage that is unproveable, but we keep looking anyway. One thing I have found is that families put the secret of their ethnicity in their back pocket and generally deny any lineage with the tribes. It was safer for them that way. I am collecting information from anyone who has ancestors like this, who are currently willing to talk about how their family treated the native lineage. Eventually, I would like to write an article or book about the practice that seems to have begun after the Revolution and probably before. You are right, there are very few sources for proving lineage, unless the family stayed with the tribe after about 1820, or when the government began making lists and relocating the tribes to reservations. Sue Scouting for NEWBERRY/NEWBERY/NEWBURY family Time frame being studied - 1740-1880 Main line - Newberry, Connecting - Blackman, Burch, Benedict, Holly, Smith, Stephens Hannah Maria Newberry web site http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~hannahslife Known collateral names associated with John Newberry family of Warwick, N.Y. - Breffet, Bridgeford, Burt, Demerest, Durand, Fancher, Fitzgerald, Gray, Scofield, Sly, Smith (Claudius), Stephens. Midwest and west: Beebe, Benedict, Crandall, Duty, Haskins, Hyatt, Pendleton, Pulsipher, Williams, Winegar, Wixom, Places where these folks lived - Groton, Conn., Stonington, Conn. Ridgefield, Conn. Warwick, Orange, New York, Patterson, Dutchess, N.Y.; Hanover, Pa.; Brownhelm, Ohio; Far West Missouri and other counties in Missouri; Nauvoo, Illinois; Lee County Iowa - "The half-Breed Tract" (Argyle); Pottawattamie and Mills County Iowa - Indian Creek, Indian Mill. - possible unproved stints in other states Indiana, Nebraska possibly Kansas and Vermont. Organizations in which families were involved: Whigs, Tories, Mormons, RLDS, Baptists, Cutlerites, Native Americans In a message dated 1/4/2005 12:04:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Kenneth, I am an Antique Dealer from Tawas City, Michigan. You can see my Web Site at: http://timeaftertimeantiqueshop.tripod.com Take the pictures to a Professional Picture Frame Shop. They will treat the edges and put them on Acid Free backings and then into a sealed picture frame. I didn't mean to but in to your e-mail conversation...but..I am also on the rootsweb e-mail chat. So I have a lot of e-mail's come to me through them. I really hope this e-mail does not offend. I had been looking for my ancestors and contacted rootsweb a year ago. The people were wonderful there and I found out a lot from them about my ancestors. I have an Indian Grandmother that I still can not find though...we found her obituary and grave but nothing to connect her to an Indian Linage. Of course, at that time the Iroquois was all but wiped out in a Massacre and the remaining ones went into hiding either with other tribes or married whites and passed themselves off as white or France, Italian, etc. decent. Her name was Estella Mildred (Ward) Schmidt (later changed to Smith). They lived in Amherst, Ohio and later Avon Lake, Ohio and Lorain, Ohio. If you happen upon anything I would appreciate anything. Wishing you the best in the New Year! Blessings, Estella If no one wants them I would love to have them. I am not related to any Hickeys but I do collect old pictures.

Hi Kenneth, I am an Antique Dealer from Tawas City, Michigan. You can see my Web Site at: http://timeaftertimeantiqueshop.tripod.com Take the pictures to a Professional Picture Frame Shop. They will treat the edges and put them on Acid Free backings and then into a sealed picture frame. I didn't mean to but in to your e-mail conversation...but..I am also on the rootsweb e-mail chat. So I have a lot of e-mail's come to me through them. I really hope this e-mail does not offend. I had been looking for my ancestors and contacted rootsweb a year ago. The people were wonderful there and I found out a lot from them about my ancestors. I have an Indian Grandmother that I still can not find though...we found her obituary and grave but nothing to connect her to an Indian Linage. Of course, at that time the Iroquois was all but wiped out in a Massacre and the remaining ones went into hiding either with other tribes or married whites and passed themselves off as white or France, Italian, etc. decent. Her name was Estella Mildred (Ward) Schmidt (later changed to Smith). They lived in Amherst, Ohio and later Avon Lake, Ohio and Lorain, Ohio. If you happen upon anything I would appreciate anything. Wishing you the best in the New Year! Blessings, Estella If no one wants them I would love to have them. I am not related to any Hickeys but I do collect old pictures. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Gooden" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Old protraits > I have 4 old portraits,over a hundred years old. they are large about 18x24 inches on about 1/8 inch thick > past board. The edges are starting to crumble and fall off. what can I do with them to preserve them? > I have thought about giving them to The Hickerys but I am not sure they would want them. Ken > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN >

It's good to hear from other Aiken researchers. I am not a decsendent, but I've been researching the Porter line for many years, and it has been a good year or two since I've been able to do so, so the information is not as fresh in my mind. I have quite a bit on William and Hannah Porter Aiken, anything you need, just ask and if I don't know off the top of my head, I'll dig around for it. I have a question though, were there any Aikens in Iowa, Wisconsin and/or Missouri in the early 1800's as to help explain why William and Hannah were there for awhile? Thier son Irad was also born in Iowa, Clinton Co I believe. ---- [email protected] wrote: >Content-Type: text/plain > >OHLORAIN-D DigestVolume 05 : Issue 3 > >Today's Topics: >#1 Re: [OHLORAIN] Aiken, Akins, Russe ["NatureGem" >#2 Re: Aikens [] >#3 Re: [OHLORAIN] Re: Aikens ["NatureGem" >#4 Re: [OHLORAIN] Re: Aikens [Donna Edmondson >#5 Re: [OHLORAIN] Aiken, Akins, Russe [Bob Aiken ] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from OHLORAIN-D, send a message to > >[email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > >unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________

I have 4 old portraits,over a hundred years old. they are large about 18x24 inches on about 1/8 inch thick past board. The edges are starting to crumble and fall off. what can I do with them to preserve them? I have thought about giving them to The Hickerys but I am not sure they would want them. Ken

Hi All, This link, http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen/obits/Aobits.html , has obituaries of William Hanford/Henry, Hannah Porter Aiken, and Ira/Irad Aiken. Given the dates from the previous posts, William Hanford/Henry Aiken do seem to be the same person. 1907 was a bad year, he lost his Wife Hannah, then Son Irad and he died in November. The Lorain County Gen web Page, is great, by the way. My apologies for jumping in if this message is posted by the same Maureen who posted the obituaries. Bob Aiken Donna Edmondson <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Deb and Maureen, I, too, am descended from the Irad Aiken family of Amherst, Lorain Co., through Marietta, the daughter. Irad's wife was Indiana Brainard, also from Ct., and both are buried in the Cleveland St. Cemetery, Amherst, Oh. Donna. NatureGem wrote: Hi Maureen, Sounds like the exact same family. Those are the same names except I have William Henry instead of William Hanford (and possibly he went by Henry in some cases? Or had 2 or 3 names like some did). I also have additionally the two daughters Laura and Marietta and 2 unknown children who died young. Unless William Hanford was one of the two unknown children or another child born later? I would be curious to know who you have in your William Hanford's family because my William Henry married Hannah Porter and had Ira and Hattie. Do you have any pictures? Would love to hear what other info you have if you get a chance. Thanks! Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: Aikens > > I have some information on Aikens from the Lorain, Amherst area. Can't connect exactly your Aikens, however there was an Irad Aiken, born 1792 in CT, moved to Amherst. Lorain County in 1863. He had 6 children, 3 sons, William Hanford, Charles, Noah B., and Edwin. I don;t have info on the boys other than Wiliam Hanford, but I suspect there is a connection. > Maureen > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >OHLORAIN-D DigestVolume 05 : Issue 2 > > > >Today's Topics: > >#1 Genealogy Meeting Reminder [[email protected]] > >#2 Aiken, Akins, Russell 1800-1920 [Bob Aiken ] > >#3 Dighton REED lived in 1900 Rochest [Bonnie ] > > > >Administrivia: > >To unsubscribe from OHLORAIN-D, send a message to > > > >[email protected] > > > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > > >unsubscribe > > > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > >______________________________ > n > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Additional information on this family can be found on pages 1283 & 1284 in Vol.III of THE HISTORY OF THE WESTERN RESERVE by Harriet Taylor Upton, published 1910. specifically on David, Wm. H., & Irad AIKEN. I happen to own this indexed set but these can be found in most of the libraries in this county. If you need a look-up on any other surname mailto:[email protected] ===== Nancy M. Clay Meyers, Lorain OH Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org

Wow! Thanks a for the very detailed note and it was quite clear. Well now I know the name of my G-G-grandfather (Edwin Aiken) and beyond. Not only have you helped verify my theory, but you've tied in the other Aiken's in the County as well, such as William H Aiken, my Wm H. Aiken's uncle.. The clues on Dora Russell living in MI in ~1870 and Claude in 1900 help fill out some of the gaps where these folks seemed to disappear. I would be very interested in where you found out that the year Claude was born was Aug 1889. I have found various sources putting the date anywhere from 1887 to 1896, but the most consistent was pretty much around 1890. The date was Aug 15. By the way my research of my direct line suggests that Claude Aiken (b Aug 15 1889, d. 1944) and Dorothy's (b June 1 1884, died 1953, MO) parents were "Wm H. Aiken" (?b about 1857, in Amherst, Lorain, OH d.?) and Dora Russell (b. 1862, in IL d 1935, MO). In other words, Frank William AIKEN's older brother, (unless its another Frank goes by William and William goes by.....Henry?.. ). Dora's death cert., listed her birthplace as ILL as well as 1920 census data, so it seems that Dora was probably born in IL.. Also, Claude AIKEN's wife Elvira's name was KRING, not King and Dorothy's husbands last name was Samuel LEE not Carr. Dora reappears (for me at least) in the 1920 St. Louis census living with Sam, Dorothy, Lloyd Eugene "Gene" Lee. She is a widow by that time. Don't know when Wm H died. Let me know if you want see more on what I have about these folks in St. Louis city, , MO. Would it be possible to get some type of copy of the photograph of the Aiken family you mentioned? I could see if the unknown people have a family resemblance. Or send a copy to my Aunt and see if she thinks its a match. Thanks Again! Bob Aiken [email protected] NatureGem <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Bob, I have some members of this family and their ancestors in my family tree. Hopefully, I can explain what I have clearly, since it is sort of confusing. Deb B. Frank William Aiken born 1858 in Michigan married Dora Russell, as you know. Dora Russell was born in Michigan and was a domestic servant at the age of 13 in the home of William and Mina Tick in Caledonia Twp, Michigan. They had children Claude F. and Dorothy E.. Claude was born about Aug 1889 in Ohio and married Elvira King from Missouri, daughter of Adolph King (b:~1869 in Illinois), and the family is on the 1920 census in St. Louis, Missouri. Elvira's siblings included Amy, Erma, Adolph, and Eugene. Dorothy was born ~1884 in Black River/Lorain, Ohio and married Samuel Carr (b: 1881 Illinois, druggist, lived St. Louis also in 1920) and had a son Lloyd E. born 1907 in Missouri. I can't confirm this, but I believe in 1900 at age 10, that Claude lived with his cousin (Thomas Robeson, wife Louise and 2-yr-old daughter Rosa Lee) in Ashley Twp, Independence, Arkansas and was listed as a farm laborer, although it listed him as born Missouri -- possibly his father had died already??? Frank William Aiken was the son of Henry Edwin "Ed" Aiken (my great grandparents corresponded with him frequently as he second married our family -- the Schmink's, and I have postcards that indicate that he went by "Ed" or "H. Ed") and Ann E. (Ed's first wife). Ed was born Jul 23, 1836 in Amherst, OH and lived at 148 Aiken Street. He died Dec 25, 1931 when he was living on Jackson Street by the cemetery, and was buried at Cleveland Street Cemetery in Amherst with his second wife. He had a grove of peach trees. His first wife Ann was born in 1839 in Ohio. She died shortly after 1880, but I'm unsure of the date, and Ed remarried to Elizabeth Ann "Lizzie" Schmink (another Ann, but she didn't go by Ann usually. This was also her second marriage. She first married Frederick H. Leuszler). (Ed and Lizzie are on the 1900 Amherst census with his last name spelled Eikin) I have a picture of the Aiken family in front of their house at that time -- the parents Ed and his second wife Lizzie, and a young woman and young man, possibly William and Dora. His second wife, Lizzie Schmink was born Dec 11, 1854 and died Oct 8, 1923 of chronic valvular heart disease. There were no children of this second marriage. Henry Edwin Aiken's parents were Irad Isaac O. Aiken (Sep 4, 1792 - Jun 27, 1879), a farmer, and Indiana Brainard (went by "Indi" or "Inda", Dec 30, 1799 - 1891, daughter of Ozias Brainard (1771-1858) and Mary Strong (1776-1864)). They were both born in Middle Haddam, Middlesex, Connecticut and died in Amherst, Ohio. They were married Dec 1, 1817 in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, and lived in Brooklyn, Ohio on the west side of Cleveland before moving to Black River/Lorain where he owned land in 1857, and then moving on to Amherst. They are both buried at Cleveland Street Cemetery in Amherst. (I have more data on the Brainard and Strong families if needed) Irad and Indiana had the following children besides Henry Edward Aiken (8 children altogether): 2. William Henry "Henry" (b: Nov 1821 in Ohio and died 1907 Black River, OH, buried Elmwood Cemetery, married Hannah Porter (b: Nov 1824 Massachusetts and died 1907) in 1844, had 2 children: - Irad O./"Ira D." on census (b:Apr 1847 in Iowa and died Lorain, Ohio, married Rosa F. Case (b:Jan 1848), had a son David H. who was an attorney (b: May 6 1873 in Black River, OH - Apr 27, 1935) in Lorain Ohio, married Rubie (b:1872-1910) buried Elmwood Cemetery) - Harriett "Hattie" (b: Sep 1849 in Ohio and married G.D. Seslie (b:Jan 1842 Ohio) and had a daughter Ulyssa) 3. Charles S. Aiken (b: 1819 in Ohio and died1893, married Lucy Holmes in 1846, and had daughter Genevia ~1846) 4. Laura Aiken who married Clark Wheelan. 5. Marietta Betsy Aiken (b: 1831-1911 and married E.C. Foster in 1847) 6. Noah Aiken (b:1834 in Ohio, farmer, was in Caledonia Twp, Shiawasee, Mic higan in 1870 and 1910, married Harriett (b:1846 in Ohio), and had 3 children: - Florence (b: ~1864 in Ohio) - George (b: ~ 1865 in Michigan) - India (b: ~ 1867 in Michigan) 7. Unknown child who died young. 8. Unknown child who died young. Irad O. Aiken's parents were George William Aiken (b: 1773 in Newburg, Cuyahoga Cty, Ohio and died Brooklyn Twp, Cuyahoga Cty, Ohio) and Tamzin Higgins (b: Dec 1, 1768 in Chatham, Middlesex, Connecticut) They were married July 8, 1790 and had 7 children. Besides Irad, their other children were: 2. William (b:1801) 3. Cyril (b:1791) 4. Jerad 5. Julia (b: Mar 2, 1796 in Newburg, Ohio and died Jan 30, 1832) 6. Lury (not sure if male or female) 7. Caroline Tamzin Higgins's parents were Moses Higgins (b: 1742 in Eastham, Barnstable, Mass.and died Feb 12, 1818) and Dorcas Brainard (b: Feb 16, 1746 in Haddam, Middlesex, Connecticut and died in June of 1829). They were married on Dec 10, 1767. (I have more on the Higgins and Brainard families if needed) George William Aiken's father was George Aiken born Connecticut, and George Aiken's father was Henry Aiken. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Aiken" To: Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Aiken, Akins, Russell 1800-1920 > Hi My line goes through Claude F Aiken (DOB about 1885-1896), his parents Wm H. Aiken and Dora Russell. I haven't been able to find direct evidence of his birth in the County records. His Sister Dorothy was born in Black River in 1884 and Wm H. and Dora lived in Amherst in 1885. Claude always listed his birthplace as "Lorain, OH". I haven't found any record of Claude until his 1914 Marriage license when he lived in Chicago (Claude, Dora and Dorothy all ended up in St. Louis). Any information on these folks would be greatly appreciated > > I would like to prove or disprove a theory based on census data that 1 year old Wm H "Akins" living in Plato/Amherst, Son of Henry and Ann E.(1860 census), moved to Corunna, Shiawassee, MI (1870 census data, Henry's name now listed as Henry E. Aiken). Then in 1880 the family moved back to Lorain County. Wm H. is living separately in N Amherst (age 23), while father Henry and family is now listed as Edward and also living in N Amherst. Again, information on these folks would be greatly appreciated, especially what church they belonged to so I could look at those records. > Thank you, Bob Aiken [email protected] > > . > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Maureen, Sounds like the exact same family. Those are the same names except I have William Henry instead of William Hanford (and possibly he went by Henry in some cases? Or had 2 or 3 names like some did). I also have additionally the two daughters Laura and Marietta and 2 unknown children who died young. Unless William Hanford was one of the two unknown children or another child born later? I would be curious to know who you have in your William Hanford's family because my William Henry married Hannah Porter and had Ira and Hattie. Do you have any pictures? Would love to hear what other info you have if you get a chance. Thanks! Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: Aikens > > I have some information on Aikens from the Lorain, Amherst area. Can't connect exactly your Aikens, however there was an Irad Aiken, born 1792 in CT, moved to Amherst. Lorain County in 1863. He had 6 children, 3 sons, William Hanford, Charles, Noah B., and Edwin. I don;t have info on the boys other than Wiliam Hanford, but I suspect there is a connection. > Maureen > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >OHLORAIN-D DigestVolume 05 : Issue 2 > > > >Today's Topics: > >#1 Genealogy Meeting Reminder [[email protected]] > >#2 Aiken, Akins, Russell 1800-1920 [Bob Aiken ] > >#3 Dighton REED lived in 1900 Rochest [Bonnie ] > > > >Administrivia: > >To unsubscribe from OHLORAIN-D, send a message to > > > >[email protected] > > > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > > >unsubscribe > > > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > >______________________________ > n > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN > > >

Hello Deb and Maureen, I, too, am descended from the Irad Aiken family of Amherst, Lorain Co., through Marietta, the daughter. Irad's wife was Indiana Brainard, also from Ct., and both are buried in the Cleveland St. Cemetery, Amherst, Oh. Donna. NatureGem <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Maureen, Sounds like the exact same family. Those are the same names except I have William Henry instead of William Hanford (and possibly he went by Henry in some cases? Or had 2 or 3 names like some did). I also have additionally the two daughters Laura and Marietta and 2 unknown children who died young. Unless William Hanford was one of the two unknown children or another child born later? I would be curious to know who you have in your William Hanford's family because my William Henry married Hannah Porter and had Ira and Hattie. Do you have any pictures? Would love to hear what other info you have if you get a chance. Thanks! Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: Aikens > > I have some information on Aikens from the Lorain, Amherst area. Can't connect exactly your Aikens, however there was an Irad Aiken, born 1792 in CT, moved to Amherst. Lorain County in 1863. He had 6 children, 3 sons, William Hanford, Charles, Noah B., and Edwin. I don;t have info on the boys other than Wiliam Hanford, but I suspect there is a connection. > Maureen > > ---- [email protected] wrote: > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >OHLORAIN-D DigestVolume 05 : Issue 2 > > > >Today's Topics: > >#1 Genealogy Meeting Reminder [[email protected]] > >#2 Aiken, Akins, Russell 1800-1920 [Bob Aiken ] > >#3 Dighton REED lived in 1900 Rochest [Bonnie ] > > > >Administrivia: > >To unsubscribe from OHLORAIN-D, send a message to > > > >[email protected] > > > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > > >unsubscribe > > > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > >______________________________ > n > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more.

I have some information on Aikens from the Lorain, Amherst area. Can't connect exactly your Aikens, however there was an Irad Aiken, born 1792 in CT, moved to Amherst. Lorain County in 1863. He had 6 children, 3 sons, William Hanford, Charles, Noah B., and Edwin. I don;t have info on the boys other than Wiliam Hanford, but I suspect there is a connection. Maureen ---- [email protected] wrote: >Content-Type: text/plain > >OHLORAIN-D DigestVolume 05 : Issue 2 > >Today's Topics: >#1 Genealogy Meeting Reminder [[email protected]] >#2 Aiken, Akins, Russell 1800-1920 [Bob Aiken ] >#3 Dighton REED lived in 1900 Rochest [Bonnie ] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from OHLORAIN-D, send a message to > >[email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > >unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ n

Hi Bob, I have some members of this family and their ancestors in my family tree. Hopefully, I can explain what I have clearly, since it is sort of confusing. Deb B. Frank William Aiken born 1858 in Michigan married Dora Russell, as you know. Dora Russell was born in Michigan and was a domestic servant at the age of 13 in the home of William and Mina Tick in Caledonia Twp, Michigan. They had children Claude F. and Dorothy E.. Claude was born about Aug 1889 in Ohio and married Elvira King from Missouri, daughter of Adolph King (b:~1869 in Illinois), and the family is on the 1920 census in St. Louis, Missouri. Elvira's siblings included Amy, Erma, Adolph, and Eugene. Dorothy was born ~1884 in Black River/Lorain, Ohio and married Samuel Carr (b: 1881 Illinois, druggist, lived St. Louis also in 1920) and had a son Lloyd E. born 1907 in Missouri. I can't confirm this, but I believe in 1900 at age 10, that Claude lived with his cousin (Thomas Robeson, wife Louise and 2-yr-old daughter Rosa Lee) in Ashley Twp, Independence, Arkansas and was listed as a farm laborer, although it listed him as born Missouri -- possibly his father had died already??? Frank William Aiken was the son of Henry Edwin "Ed" Aiken (my great grandparents corresponded with him frequently as he second married our family -- the Schmink's, and I have postcards that indicate that he went by "Ed" or "H. Ed") and Ann E. (Ed's first wife). Ed was born Jul 23, 1836 in Amherst, OH and lived at 148 Aiken Street. He died Dec 25, 1931 when he was living on Jackson Street by the cemetery, and was buried at Cleveland Street Cemetery in Amherst with his second wife. He had a grove of peach trees. His first wife Ann was born in 1839 in Ohio. She died shortly after 1880, but I'm unsure of the date, and Ed remarried to Elizabeth Ann "Lizzie" Schmink (another Ann, but she didn't go by Ann usually. This was also her second marriage. She first married Frederick H. Leuszler). (Ed and Lizzie are on the 1900 Amherst census with his last name spelled Eikin) I have a picture of the Aiken family in front of their house at that time -- the parents Ed and his second wife Lizzie, and a young woman and young man, possibly William and Dora. His second wife, Lizzie Schmink was born Dec 11, 1854 and died Oct 8, 1923 of chronic valvular heart disease. There were no children of this second marriage. Henry Edwin Aiken's parents were Irad Isaac O. Aiken (Sep 4, 1792 - Jun 27, 1879), a farmer, and Indiana Brainard (went by "Indi" or "Inda", Dec 30, 1799 - 1891, daughter of Ozias Brainard (1771-1858) and Mary Strong (1776-1864)). They were both born in Middle Haddam, Middlesex, Connecticut and died in Amherst, Ohio. They were married Dec 1, 1817 in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, and lived in Brooklyn, Ohio on the west side of Cleveland before moving to Black River/Lorain where he owned land in 1857, and then moving on to Amherst. They are both buried at Cleveland Street Cemetery in Amherst. (I have more data on the Brainard and Strong families if needed) Irad and Indiana had the following children besides Henry Edward Aiken (8 children altogether): 2. William Henry "Henry" (b: Nov 1821 in Ohio and died 1907 Black River, OH, buried Elmwood Cemetery, married Hannah Porter (b: Nov 1824 Massachusetts and died 1907) in 1844, had 2 children: - Irad O./"Ira D." on census (b:Apr 1847 in Iowa and died Lorain, Ohio, married Rosa F. Case (b:Jan 1848), had a son David H. who was an attorney (b: May 6 1873 in Black River, OH - Apr 27, 1935) in Lorain Ohio, married Rubie (b:1872-1910) buried Elmwood Cemetery) - Harriett "Hattie" (b: Sep 1849 in Ohio and married G.D. Seslie (b:Jan 1842 Ohio) and had a daughter Ulyssa) 3. Charles S. Aiken (b: 1819 in Ohio and died1893, married Lucy Holmes in 1846, and had daughter Genevia ~1846) 4. Laura Aiken who married Clark Wheelan. 5. Marietta Betsy Aiken (b: 1831-1911 and married E.C. Foster in 1847) 6. Noah Aiken (b:1834 in Ohio, farmer, was in Caledonia Twp, Shiawasee, Mic higan in 1870 and 1910, married Harriett (b:1846 in Ohio), and had 3 children: - Florence (b: ~1864 in Ohio) - George (b: ~ 1865 in Michigan) - India (b: ~ 1867 in Michigan) 7. Unknown child who died young. 8. Unknown child who died young. Irad O. Aiken's parents were George William Aiken (b: 1773 in Newburg, Cuyahoga Cty, Ohio and died Brooklyn Twp, Cuyahoga Cty, Ohio) and Tamzin Higgins (b: Dec 1, 1768 in Chatham, Middlesex, Connecticut) They were married July 8, 1790 and had 7 children. Besides Irad, their other children were: 2. William (b:1801) 3. Cyril (b:1791) 4. Jerad 5. Julia (b: Mar 2, 1796 in Newburg, Ohio and died Jan 30, 1832) 6. Lury (not sure if male or female) 7. Caroline Tamzin Higgins's parents were Moses Higgins (b: 1742 in Eastham, Barnstable, Mass.and died Feb 12, 1818) and Dorcas Brainard (b: Feb 16, 1746 in Haddam, Middlesex, Connecticut and died in June of 1829). They were married on Dec 10, 1767. (I have more on the Higgins and Brainard families if needed) George William Aiken's father was George Aiken born Connecticut, and George Aiken's father was Henry Aiken. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Aiken" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Aiken, Akins, Russell 1800-1920 > Hi My line goes through Claude F Aiken (DOB about 1885-1896), his parents Wm H. Aiken and Dora Russell. I haven't been able to find direct evidence of his birth in the County records. His Sister Dorothy was born in Black River in 1884 and Wm H. and Dora lived in Amherst in 1885. Claude always listed his birthplace as "Lorain, OH". I haven't found any record of Claude until his 1914 Marriage license when he lived in Chicago (Claude, Dora and Dorothy all ended up in St. Louis). Any information on these folks would be greatly appreciated > > I would like to prove or disprove a theory based on census data that 1 year old Wm H "Akins" living in Plato/Amherst, Son of Henry and Ann E.(1860 census), moved to Corunna, Shiawassee, MI (1870 census data, Henry's name now listed as Henry E. Aiken). Then in 1880 the family moved back to Lorain County. Wm H. is living separately in N Amherst (age 23), while father Henry and family is now listed as Edward and also living in N Amherst. Again, information on these folks would be greatly appreciated, especially what church they belonged to so I could look at those records. > Thank you, Bob Aiken [email protected] > > . > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > >

Is Dighton/Diton Reed buried in Lorain co., OH? When did he die? I need a date in order to find an obituary. I found in 1900 census Rochester twp., Lorain, OH 215/223 Earl GREEN age 42 Clara S. age 47 Henry S. Green age 6 Dighton REED, father-in-law age 80 born NY In 1880 Dighton Reed and daughter Clarinda age 36, son William, age 17 and daughter Laura age 21, lived in Huron co., fitchville twp., OH. Clara/Clarinda REED married Earl GREEN 16 OCT 1880 in Huron Co., OH. Earl was the son of Mason and Mary Anna (Sheldon) Green of Huron and Fulton Co., OH. thanks, bonnie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

The Lorain County Chapter of OGS meets on Monday, January 10, 2005, at the Oberlin Public Library, 65 S. Main St., Oberlin, Ohio. Social time is 6:30 PM and general meeting and program at 7:00 PM. Members will be voting on the Revisions of the current By-laws. The proposed revisions were published in the Fall issue of the Researcher. The Vice President and Treasurer will be inducted for the 2005-2006 term. The program discussion topic will be "Eureka Moments vs. Brickwalls." Contact Margaret at margch[email protected] or Jean at [email protected] for further information. Respectfully submitted, Jean Copeland, VP, LCC-OGS

Hi My line goes through Claude F Aiken (DOB about 1885-1896), his parents Wm H. Aiken and Dora Russell. I haven't been able to find direct evidence of his birth in the County records. His Sister Dorothy was born in Black River in 1884 and Wm H. and Dora lived in Amherst in 1885. Claude always listed his birthplace as "Lorain, OH". I haven't found any record of Claude until his 1914 Marriage license when he lived in Chicago (Claude, Dora and Dorothy all ended up in St. Louis). Any information on these folks would be greatly appreciated I would like to prove or disprove a theory based on census data that 1 year old Wm H "Akins" living in Plato/Amherst, Son of Henry and Ann E.(1860 census), moved to Corunna, Shiawassee, MI (1870 census data, Henry's name now listed as Henry E. Aiken). Then in 1880 the family moved back to Lorain County. Wm H. is living separately in N Amherst (age 23), while father Henry and family is now listed as Edward and also living in N Amherst. Again, information on these folks would be greatly appreciated, especially what church they belonged to so I could look at those records. Thank you, Bob Aiken [email protected] . --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo!

In a message dated 1/1/2005 7:03:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Looking for Edwards ancestors born in NY late 1790-1800's. I have names, Abner, David, Harvey, Maria, Esther, Elilphlet, and Sam. It's believed my line, ABNER m. Phoebe Tarbox. Their daughter Irene/Irena m. GW Smiley. Grateful for any clues. Viola Viola, have you heard of the Edward's billions?

Looking for Edwards ancestors born in NY late 1790-1800's. I have names, Abner, David, Harvey, Maria, Esther, Elilphlet, and Sam. It's believed my line, ABNER m. Phoebe Tarbox. Their daughter Irene/Irena m. GW Smiley. Grateful for any clues. Viola