Thank you so much, Richard. That is very interesting. Do you have any idea if there would be any records about the workers and if so, who to contact? Pat Richard Kurish <[email protected]> wrote: Pat, In the 1870s the L.S. & M. S. ( Lake Shore & Michigan Southern) Railroad ran through Ridgeville, south of Detroit Road (State Rt. 254). At that time, the area at the junction of current State Rts. 83 and 254, which was the main business area of Ridgeville, was known as Ridgeville Center. The area a little further south on State Rt. 83, where the railroad crossed, was known as Ridgeville Station. A depot was located at this location, on the west side of Rt. 83. Since the L.S.& M.S. was the only railroad that went through Ridgeville in the 1870s, and your ancestor lived in Ridgeville, there is a good chance that he was an employee of that railroad. A "railroad hand" was probably involved in maintaining the right of way, inspecting track, etc. The L.S. & M.S. later became the New York Central Railroad, and the line through North Ridgeville, currently exists as the Consolidated Railroad Corp., commonly known as "Conrail". The depot at Rt. 83 no longer exists at its former location. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that the depot building was saved and moved to a new location. Interestingly, an abandoned section of the L.S & M. S. Railroad has been made into a bicycle and walking trail between Elyria and Kipton. The bicycle trail runs through rural country, and a couple of old bridges and stone crossings over creeks, make the ride a pleasant trip through early Lorain County railroad history. Richard ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

Nancy, Just a note to let you and Elmer know that you and Esther are in my prayers. May our Dear Lord enfold you and carry all of you through this difficult time. Sincerely, Jean Copeland

Nancy: Blessings to you in your difficult time. Sue

Hi, There were two that I know carried the Ohio lines one was the Baltimore and Ohio, known as the "B&0" and the other was the Detroit and Cincinnati, known as the "D&C". I hope this helps. My relatives worked on the railroad too! I hope this helps, You can write to the Chamber of Commerce of the town where he lived and they will let you know the name of the Railroad Line in that area. Blessings, Estella ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Graf" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Railroad !!! > Hi List, > > I found my great grandfather, Aurelius Payne in the 1870 Census in Ridgeville, Lorain, Ohio, (Elyria post office). His occupation is listed as a R.R. Hand. Does anyone know what the name of the railroad would be and if there would be any records to verify this? > > Thank you in advance, > Pat Graf > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

Fellow Listers, It is a odd feeling to be here, at 3:58 PM,in the family lounge at Fairview Hospital. Just had a conference with my sister-in-law's oncologist a few moments ago. With their computer set-up here, I can easily access, compose and send emails about the conference to other family members. During our visit today, Esther has been able to recall a few more childhood memories of 74 years ago, with some prompting of course. She wishes that she had gotten interested in genealogy decades ago. Have a good Chapter meeting tonight! Nancy Meyers ===== Nancy M. Clay Meyers, Lorain OH Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org

Hi looking for information about Anna Sage born 1849 in Lorain Co. OH her father was Charles R Sage mother was Martha Twitcheel any information will help. Richard J sage

Thank you Estella. Pat "Estella C. Bonds" <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, There were two that I know carried the Ohio lines one was the Baltimore and Ohio, known as the "B&0" and the other was the Detroit and Cincinnati, known as the "D&C". I hope this helps. My relatives worked on the railroad too! I hope this helps, You can write to the Chamber of Commerce of the town where he lived and they will let you know the name of the Railroad Line in that area. Blessings, Estella ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Graf" To: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Railroad !!! > Hi List, > > I found my great grandfather, Aurelius Payne in the 1870 Census in Ridgeville, Lorain, Ohio, (Elyria post office). His occupation is listed as a R.R. Hand. Does anyone know what the name of the railroad would be and if there would be any records to verify this? > > Thank you in advance, > Pat Graf > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

My ancestor, Owen BREHANY, is listed in the 1850 Federal Census, Wellington, Lorain, Ohio. He was listed as a laborer, Railroad Contract, Irish shanty, aged 25. I have him (obituary) as being born June 1817; d: 1 Mar 1912, Cleveland, Ohio, at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Elizabeth NEWMAN. He was married to Bridget Murphy; b: abt 1821, Ireland; and Delia Mullin.. Children were: Margaret (July 1852), Martin (Nov 1854), James Wesley (1857), all with Bridget Murphy as wife; then stepdaughters: Mary Anne Mullin (1850), Delia Mullin (abt 1856), sons: John Brahany (1861), Thomas Robert (19 June 1868), and daughter: Elizabeth (Oct 1870). Some are buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, New London, Ohio (Owen, Martin, Mary Anne) I would like to find out all I can in regard to Owen and his families, including how and when he arrived in Wellington, Lorain, Ohio and where he ariived and when he came from in Ireland. Can you be of any assistance? I am an active member of OGS, member #084300; and a member of First Families of Ashland County, Ohio Thanking you in advance. Bill Brahney 26 S. Marvine Ave. Auburn, New York 13021 [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Sherri, You can contact the 3 Health departments on Lorain Coounty and ask if one of them have a death record for Taggett. The information can be found on the Lorain County genealogy page under "Resources in Lorain County". The address is below in my signature. Sue Sherri Willard wrote: > Does anyone have access to death notices that could look up Jospeh Taggett died August 1978. Social Security Index states his last residence was Cleveland but I have been told that might be where his last Social Security Check was mailed. He was living in Lorain County in the 1930's. I have info of a divorce from Lizzie Taggett. Thank you for other info. > > Sherri > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

The B&O, (Baltimore & Ohio) ran past my grandmother's house in Erhart (on/near the Lorain/Medina County border On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:27:46 -0800 (PST) Pat Graf <[email protected]> writes: > Hi List, > > I found my great grandfather, Aurelius Payne in the 1870 Census in > Ridgeville, Lorain, Ohio, (Elyria post office). His occupation is > listed as a R.R. Hand. Does anyone know what the name of the > railroad would be and if there would be any records to verify this? > > Thank you in advance, > Pat Graf > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > >

Pat I don't know about 1870, but in 1910 the Lake Shore and Michigan Railroad was in Lorain, OH. I suggest that you write to the Railroad Retirement Board, 844 Rush St, Chicago, IL 60611 for information. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Graf" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Railroad !!! > Hi List, > > I found my great grandfather, Aurelius Payne in the 1870 Census in > Ridgeville, Lorain, Ohio, (Elyria post office). His occupation is listed > as a R.R. Hand. Does anyone know what the name of the railroad would be > and if there would be any records to verify this? > > Thank you in advance, > Pat Graf > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

Hi List, I found my great grandfather, Aurelius Payne in the 1870 Census in Ridgeville, Lorain, Ohio, (Elyria post office). His occupation is listed as a R.R. Hand. Does anyone know what the name of the railroad would be and if there would be any records to verify this? Thank you in advance, Pat Graf

Hi Lorain County Researchers. This is a list of surnames posted to the Lorain County genealogy webpage in recent weeks. If you haven't posted yours as yet, please contact me at [email protected] BRUSH, MORGAN, HITCHCOCK, DARLING, McCLOY, ROOT, POWERS, POPE, BANDAGSKI, TAYLOR, VARADI, MYERS, FOSTER, SKOCZ, CROCKER, DUNLAP, WOODMANCY, WOODMANCEE, CRANDALL, HENGEN, SCHNITZLER, FLOOD, GRUNDY, PLATO, EHRENSBERGER, KRUGER, JOHNSON, WENZEL, PROUDFOOT, SAYE, KEEFFE, O'KEEFE, HANNIGAN, DONOVAN, SHEEHAN, MULCAHY. The wepage address is below in my signature. -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

The Oberlin African-American Genealogy and History Group will meet this Saturday, January 8, 2005 at 11:00 a.m. at the Oberlin Public Library, 65 S. Main Street, Oberlin. Non-members are welcome at all meetings. Phyllis Yarber Hogan

Karen, Nancy and everyone: Amazing how people don't embrace who they are. I am not even 100% native American in blood, but I am 100 percent in my heart. The English, French, German and Scotch in my family is not nearly so interesting as my native side who were also Mormons. :-) Sue

Good luck Nancy! <G> Karen -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Meyers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHLORAIN] Same words I am cutting and pasting the letter Karen sent to this list. I am changing the words "native American Indian' to read as 100% Japanese and the last paragraph. Of course I signed my own name. My daughter in law is 100% Japanese. She and her entire family are extremely protective of their background and their family "secrets". Getting her to just give me a pedigree chart was a major undertaking. Once I had it, asking questions of the older generation usually got you nothing but inconsistencies, as they really don't want to talk about their "elders". What I've learned I've gotten from lots of hard work and determination. Their home is full of Japanese "art" and memento's but getting them to talk is almost impossible. Most of them (dau in laws family) have went back to Japan but own lots of rental properties in NYC. It is a challenge to research the Japanese heritage but perhaps I can get it done. Nancy ===== Nancy M. Clay Meyers, Lorain OH Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

My daughter in law is 100% native American Indian. She and her entire family are extremely protective of their background and their family "secrets". Getting her to just give me a pedigree chart was a major undertaking. Once I had it, asking questions of the older generation usually got you nothing but inconsistencies, as they really don't want to talk about their "elders". What I've learned I've gotten from lots of hard work and determination. Their home is full of Indian "art" and memento's but getting them to talk is almost impossible. Most of them (dau in laws family) have moved into the UP (upper Pen) of Michigan now to live on the reservation - in their words - "to have peace". It is a challenge to research the Indian heritage but it can be done. Karen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHLORAIN] Re: Indian Lineage I don't have any information on how the Indians were treated back in the old days, but I can speak for our current times. My ex-Mother-in-law, who is 65, is half Indian (either Cherokee or Choctaw) from NM and does not admit to being of Indian decent and will not discuss it. She thinks that people look down on Indians, and maybe they did while she was growing up. Where she grew up at in NM, I guess it was common for people of Indian decent to learn spanish and pass themselves off as Mexicans, which was apparently more acceptable than being Indian. I only found out this little bit of info when I shared a bottle of wine with her one evening! I do know that a lot of people her age and older are still "old school" as far as being prejudiced. My own father and grandfather are of that old school and I can't tell you how many disagreements that I've had with my dad on the subject. I'm proud that my 16 year old daughter has that Indian heritage, but I just wish we had more information on that branch of the family tree. I also have a Cherokee gg grandmother on my moms side of the family from Missouri, but because something like that was so hush-hush back then, the elders in the family won't even discuss the situation or share any information. It's such a horrible shame that Indians felt like they had to deny their wonderful heritage. Their family stories, knowledge, and traditions should have been written down or somehow shared with future generations to come. Joyce ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN

I don't have any information on how the Indians were treated back in the old days, but I can speak for our current times. My ex-Mother-in-law, who is 65, is half Indian (either Cherokee or Choctaw) from NM and does not admit to being of Indian decent and will not discuss it. She thinks that people look down on Indians, and maybe they did while she was growing up. Where she grew up at in NM, I guess it was common for people of Indian decent to learn spanish and pass themselves off as Mexicans, which was apparently more acceptable than being Indian. I only found out this little bit of info when I shared a bottle of wine with her one evening! I do know that a lot of people her age and older are still "old school" as far as being prejudiced. My own father and grandfather are of that old school and I can't tell you how many disagreements that I've had with my dad on the subject. I'm proud that my 16 year old daughter has that Indian heritage, but I just wish we had more information on that branch of the family tree. I also have a Cherokee gg grandmother on my moms side of the family from Missouri, but because something like that was so hush-hush back then, the elders in the family won't even discuss the situation or share any information. It's such a horrible shame that Indians felt like they had to deny their wonderful heritage. Their family stories, knowledge, and traditions should have been written down or somehow shared with future generations to come. Joyce

I am cutting and pasting the letter Karen sent to this list. I am changing the words "native American Indian' to read as 100% Japanese and the last paragraph. Of course I signed my own name. My daughter in law is 100% Japanese. She and her entire family are extremely protective of their background and their family "secrets". Getting her to just give me a pedigree chart was a major undertaking. Once I had it, asking questions of the older generation usually got you nothing but inconsistencies, as they really don't want to talk about their "elders". What I've learned I've gotten from lots of hard work and determination. Their home is full of Japanese "art" and memento's but getting them to talk is almost impossible. Most of them (dau in laws family) have went back to Japan but own lots of rental properties in NYC. It is a challenge to research the Japanese heritage but perhaps I can get it done. Nancy ===== Nancy M. Clay Meyers, Lorain OH Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.raogk.org

In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:38:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I knew a man in Elyria he is passed on now. His name was Elmer Feming. My grandfather told me his father was Indian. The father disappeared, because the people was giving him and his family such a hard time. The mother brought her family up alone. My grandfather said he was a good person and it was a shame the way he was treated. Ken Thanks Ken: It's amazing how many of these displaced people were treated so poorly. Thanks for responding. Sue