In a message dated 2/27/2005 9:55:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: HI All, I want to thank you all for your prayers. Stacey and Jennifer have been found. And like most 18/19 year olds don't understand why everyone was so worried about them. They are upset with my daughter and their other friend for telling on them. I just hope and pray they don't do anything like this again. Still I want to thank everyone for their prayers. And keep all other kids that may be out there in the same situation on your prayers. Jane Hoholski Wow Jane! I am so glad that they are home safe and sound. How could they be angry with your daughter and friend? Someone needs to pull them by the ears and ask them what they were thinking in this day and age. Sue

Several years ago I researched and found a copy of my g-grandfather's naturalization record (1 November 1878) at Lorain Co. Probate Court. The original ledger is at Western Reserve Historical Society. At that time the clerk advised me that they did not have any Declarations of Intent. Has anyone on the list been able to locate Declarations of Intent (First Papers) in Lorain Co. Probate Court prior to 1880? Thanks in advance. Jean

Dear Jane: Prayers sent. How frightening! Sue

HI All, I want to thank you all for your prayers. Stacey and Jennifer have been found. And like most 18/19 year olds don't understand why everyone was so worried about them. They are upset with my daughter and their other friend for telling on them. I just hope and pray they don't do anything like this again. Still I want to thank everyone for their prayers. And keep all other kids that may be out there in the same situation on your prayers. Jane Hoholski

Hi Jean...I'm guessing that you're hoping the papers include the family's "home village." I have several pages of declarations from Medina County, circa 1852 and none include any but the basic details -- ie the individual's name and the king/queen/potentate and country from which they are giving up allegiance. This was no problem for me since I''ve already been to the Norfolk village from which my 3 gr grandparents emmigrated sometime between mid-May 1851 (since they were included in the Norfolk UK Census at that time) and before Jan 27, 1852 (date of declaration). Shirley Hulett On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:27:52 EST [email protected] writes: > Several years ago I researched and found a copy of my g-grandfather's > > naturalization record (1 November 1878) at Lorain Co. Probate Court. > The original > ledger is at Western Reserve Historical Society. > At that time the clerk advised me that they did not have any > Declarations of > Intent. Has anyone on the list been able to locate Declarations of > Intent > (First Papers) in Lorain Co. Probate Court prior to 1880? > Thanks in advance. > > Jean > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > >

Keep us posted, Jane. Our prayers are with the girls and those of you who are so worried. My daughter is that age, too, and the worry for her safety is always there. Jean

Jane, I will keep them in my prayers... Paula Concord, CA (formerly of Lorain)

Hi I am asking for prayers for 2 of my daughters friends. They are both students at Lorain County Community College. On Friday, they took off to meet a guy they had been chatting on line with. They haven't been heard from since midnight Friday. No one knew what they were doing until late last night when my daughter and another friend got scared enough to tell us. The girls names are Stacey Kelley and Jennifer Knowles. Please prayer that they are found alive and well. Jane Hoholski

Hi Listers, Check out the new website for the Ohio Genealogical Society. There are changes, beautiful changes, in the site. It is easier to navigate and has a listing of all the chapters' upcoming events. www.ogs.org Margaret Cheney

Kathy; If you are on this list please contact me. I have lost your address. David Maynard Franklin NC [email protected]

-------- Original Message ------ Subject: FWD: The End is Near A priest and pastor from the local parishes are standing by the side of the road holding up a sign that reads, "The End is near! Turn yourself around now before it's too late!" > They planned to hold up the sign to each passing car. > "Leave us alone you religious nuts!" yelled the first driver as he sped by. > From around the curve they heard screeching tires and a big splash. > "Do you think," said one clergy to the other, "we should just put up a sign that says 'Bridge Out' instead?" :)

If you live in or near the Cleveland area and if you are a Family Tree Maker user, you will be interested to know that the FTM user group will feature a DVD video guided tour on Saturday at the Fairview Park library. It had already been mentioned that the group is having a program on DNA testing that is of genealogical interest at 9:30 pm. The FTM user group meeting will begin at 11:00. The FTM guided tour will walk us through the advanced features of file and program management, advanced topics in data management and navigation, creating custon reports, advanced scrapbook features and FTM tools and utilities. If you have FTM 2005, thinking about upgrading or buying for this first time, this would really be worthwhile. Bring a lunch and stay for the afternoon session at 1pm: Cemetery research with Jean Hoffman. Hope to see some of you there. Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

The Lorain County Chapter is pleased to be involved in the activities of the OGS Conference in Akron in April. We have been asked to help with the Registration Table during the Conference. We had many from the Chapter volunteer their time to do this. The Chapter has decided to obtain an exhibit table this year as we have publications available for sale. However, we still need volunteers to help with the exhibit table. Exhibit hours will be from 6pm to 9pm on Thursday, April 14; from 8am to 5pm on Friday, April 15 (subject to change); and from 8am to 4pm on Saturday, April 16. If you are interested in helping with this project, please contact me off-list at [email protected] Margaret Cheney

Hi, Here are the postings to our LC genealogy webpage for January. The web address is below in my signature. Surnames: JOHNSON, PROUDFOOT, BRAHANY, BREHNEY, WHIPPLE, PACKARD, PENFOUND, SQUIRES (2), WADE, COX, GRILLS, CANN. BAKER, NICHOLS, COOK, GRALTON, WALKINSHAW, KELLY/KELLEY, LUPICO/LUPICA Queries: BREHANY, MURPHY, MULLIN, NEWMAN, HOYT, GEIRMANN, CUNIGANDI, KALSCH -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Join us for a Genealogy Lock-In at the Oberlin Public Library, Friday, April 1 View the flyer here: http://www.geocities.com/oberlinaagenealogy/LockinFlyer.pdf Phyllis Yarber Hogan

Yolanda Campbell Lifter wrote: > Three Speakers at OGS Conference Focus on British Isles Research > > Three experts on British Isles genealogical research will be > presenting lectures at the 2005 Ohio Genealogical Society > Conference in Akron, Ohio, on April 15-16, 2005. > > Paul Blake is a professional genealogist; researcher, educator and > author. He is past chairman of the Society of Genealogists; > Executive Committee member of the Federation of Family History > Societies, and serves on several national Advisory Boards in > Britain. Maggie Loughran is presently employed as the > Administrator for the Federation of Family History Societies, and > as such is heavily involved in family history at a national level > in Britain. Paul Milner, is a native of England, a communication > professional and national speaker specializing in British Isles > research. > > On Friday, April 15, the trio will team up to present the > following four lectures: > > "Scots-Irish: Who, Why, When," by Maggie Loughran This lecture > examines the reasons for emigration to the new World of the Scots > Irish-the Presbyterian migrants from the Scottish Lowlands to > Ulster, including records held in Ireland or the UK. > > "Discovering the Scottish Presbyterian Forebears of the Scots > Irish," by Paul Blake. The "Scots-Irish" had their roots in the > lowlands of Scotland. >From the early 17th C they began migrating > to the north of Ireland. What can be discovered about them before > they departed, and what were the reasons for that migration? > > "Effective Internet Use of England’s National Archives," by Paul > Milner. England’s National Archives was formed from the merger of > the Public Record Office and the Historical Manuscript Commission. > Learn how to use the Internet to find resources and original > documents about individuals, places and topics in this large > online archive. > > "Early British Population Listings," by Maggie Loughran. From > early times, the state, church, and private or local authorities > made lists recording names of individuals. These can be essential > sources for locating a person or family where other resources fail > or are missing. > > The British Isles specialists return on Saturday, April 16, with > another four lectures, as follow: > > "Sources for Emigrants to North America Held in the British > Isles," by Paul Blake. Surprisingly, the surviving records held in > Britain of those who chose to their home country for the New World > are very few. The lecture will examine what records do survive, > their uses, and their limitations. > > "How the Federation of Family History Societies Can Help You with > Your Research," by Maggie Loughran. The FFHS is an essential > port-of-call for anyone undertaking British research. This lecture > emphasizes how easy it is to access the available information. > > "Irish Emigration to North America: Before, During, and After the > Famine," by Paul Milner. This lecture examines the Irish migration > to the US and Canada, looking at the push and pull factors and how > these changed with time. Scots-Irish migration patterns will be > included. > > "Land Grants in America and American Loyalist Claims: Records Held > in the British Isles," by Paul Blake. The Crown made grants of > lands to settlers and others as reward for service or loyalty > during the War for Independence. The lecture will examine the > surviving records held in Britain, mainly from the 17th and 18th > centuries. > > Paul Blake is President of the East Surrey FHS; Fellow of the > Society of Genealogists. Extensive lecturing and teaching > experience, at all levels, throughout the U.K. and overseas over > 15 years: at major conferences including 2003 FGS conference in > Orlando, for the Society of Genealogists and at many family and > local history society meetings. Paul has been a guest lecturer on > cruise ships, and in appearances on radio and television. > > Maggie Loughran has been a committee member of a number of local > history and genealogy societies, and is currently Chairman of the > Earlsdon Society (a local history group). Maggie regularly > contributes articles on family and local history to various > journals and magazines and gives lectures on family and local > history related subjects, and has been a family and local history > consultant for the History Channel. > > Paul Milner is co-author, with Linda Jonas, of Genealogist’s Guide > to Discovering Your Scottish Ancestors (Betterway, 2002) and > Genealogist’s Guide to Discovering Your English Ancestors > (Betterway, 2000). He is the product review editor for the FGS > FORUM and past FGS Board member, past president and newsletter > editor for BIGWILL (British Interest Group of Wisconsin and > Illinois). > > The theme for the 2005 Conference of the Ohio Genealogical > Society, scheduled for April 14-16 in Akron, Ohio, is "From > Farmland to City Streets: Our Ancestors' Changing Environment." > > The 2005 Conference and accompanying exhibition will be held at > the Quaker Square Convention Center in downtown Akron. The > adjoining Crowne Plaza Hotel will serve as the headquarters hotel > for the conference. > > The Ohio Genealogical Society is the largest state genealogical > society in the nation, with over 5000 members in 94 chapters > around the state and elsewhere in the U.S. It publishes The OGS > Quarterly, OGS Genealogy News, Ohio Records & Pioneer Families, > and Ohio Civil War Genealogy Journal. -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

In a message dated 2/10/2005 3:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Fellow Researchers, Beware, even on documents, things are not always what they appear to be. I have found errors on all types of records, including birth, marriage and death. Most errors are on death records. My son's ex mother-in-law (Mary Jo) recently lost her mother. Mary Jo supplied the information for her mother's death record. Under place of birth she said Muskegon, Michigan. So I e-mailed her after I read that. It seems her mother's marriage record had said she was born in Three Rivers, Michigan. I asked Mary Jo which was correct. She e-mailed back and was upset that she had told them Muskegon, when, in fact, her mother was born in Three Rivers. In old birth records, children were born at their homes. Doctor would either be there or come later. So if the doctor was not there, he would come later and write down notes on the birth, and we all know hopw doctors write. Back in the 1870s and 1880s, and even up into the 1930s, travel was not what it is today. The doctor would not make it to the county seat until months later. An example is my great grand mother Alice Elizabeth Scott (known as Allie). She was born in Allendale, Ottawa County, Mi on 30 November 1879. Her father is Walter and mother Sarah E Benham. We can not find a birth record for her. We did find a record for Allen E Scott, a boy, who is listed as being child of Walter Scott and Anna. Allen's birth record lists date of 31 Oct, 1879. On birth record father was a farmer living in Allendale and parents were both listed as being born in Michigan and living in Allendale. What is similiar between Allie and the birth record of Allen, they were both born on last day of month. Both born to a famer named Walter Scott living in Allendale to parents both born in Michigan. Both had middle initial of E and both born last day of month. In 1880 census, there was only one Walter Scott in Ottawa County. His only child was our Alice and wife was Sarah Jane. The information on the birth record was not recorded until 10 June 1880. We believe that should be the birth record for our Allie. The differance is name of child, Allen as opposed to Allie, sex of child, name of mother and month born. I think these are the result of a doctor or some one else, not being able to read his notes. My mother tells a story from 1930, her mother told her, then 7, to take her brother, age 5, out back for a walk. They lived in the country and acreage behind the house. When she returned she found she had another brother. And those census records, nothing needs to be said about the errors on those records.

We have update the website with a 2005 Calendar of Events, please check out the activities that have been confirmed for 2005 to date at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuycem/2005_calendar_of_events.htm Thanks Nancy

We have update the website with a 2005 Calendar of Events, please check out the activities that have been confirmed for 2005 to date. Thanks Nancy

The funeral home, although no longer operating, is at 1976 E. 31st St., Lorain OH 44055. It is owned by the Emil Dovala Trust. I believe that Emil, born about 1919, is still alive. This is an ethnic neigborhood and most folks there abouts in the 20'2 - 70's were of the Catholic faith. As you probably know, funeral home records are private so you may or may not get the info you seek. ===== Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen