Susan, Things are not always what they seem. It is possible that your Alfred Thielke may have had an earlier marriage. On June 5, 1917 an Alfred THIELKE registered for the WWI draft, as required by the law, in Lake Co. OH He apparently was living in the Grand River area, right up on the lake. He gave his marital status as married; his full name as Alfred Augusta Thielke and birth date and place as Sept. 2, 1891 in Hartford WI. (recall his cemetery burial card gave Hartford CT as his birthplace?) In 1917, he was employed as a brakeman for a railroad company. He requested to be excused from the draft as he was the sole support of his wife. (BTW, Augusta was his father's given name) Many experienced genealogists can attest to the fact there were times in that period that some men led double lives. Especially if they had a job that transported them from place to place such as the RR or the lakes. (it happened in my husband's family & my own grandfather). There just too many similarities here, not to check it out. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

Thanks to Nancy and Margaret for coming to my assistance regarding the Thielke family. The people you suggested are all connected to my line and so I am very excited! This really gave me a great jump-start on this particular line of Thielke... Thanks again.. what a nice helpful group!!!

Shirley, Perhaps I can help you with some death info if you care to contact me off line. I have in a database the death dates & burial places for people who died in Elyria and the Infirmary for the years 1908 up thru the 1990's. Often the birth date & place are included in these files as well. Thanks for letting this list know about those old funeral home records. Thought of your research as we drove by the current funeral home on 2nd street just yesterday. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

The family is found in Washington County WI in 1910. Al & Hugo and rest of family all there. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

The Busch-Curtis-Scheuffler Funeral Home in Elyria DOES have records from the former Sudro-Curtis Funeral Home; it does NOT have records from the former Carl Taylor Funeral Home. They have good records going back to 1957 but only information from ledgers prior to 1957.

Dear Researcher, Some pieces of the THIELKE puzzle for you: Alfred C. THIELKE died at the age of 81 and was buried on May11, 1973 in Elmwood Cemetery. Lot 2031, map page 8, Lorain OH. He died of a stroke. His birthplace on the burial card is given as Hartford CT, and his residence at the time of death is given as 1311 Root Rd. Lorain. He had worked for the Great Lakes Towing Co. per the 1957, 1962, 1969 directories, & he was retired by 1973. In the mid 50's he and his wife Mildred lived at 235 E. Erie Ave. Lorain. Mildred J. THIELKE died at age 72 and was buried on Oct. 1, 1979 in Elmwood Cem. Her residence at time of death was given as Amherst. Her birth date & birthplace is listed as Locus Point OH June 1, 1907. (This is probably Locust Pt. Ottawa Co. OH) In the same Elmwood Cem. lot, there is buried a Patricia THIELKE,age 7, who died of appendicitis and was buried on Aug. 6, 1936. In 1936, the family lived at 307 Idaho Ave. Lorain at thwe time of her death. Her birthplace is typed as Cleveland OH. Please note that there were multiple typists making various errors at the Elmwood cemtery office thru the years. Please look at the 1930 census for Vermillion in Erie Co. OH. You will find them indexed under the spelling of THIELLSE. Little 9 mo. old Patty is listed with them. Albert is working as a fisherman and they had been wed for only a couple of years. Mildred's maiden name can most likely be found on her death certificate & perhaps on the death certifcate of her daughter. The 1930 census gives Albert's birthplace as WI. The lives and stories of all the lake's fishermen, ship captains & crew are interesting to us since we live up at the Lake Erie and can view it even as we have our meals. Several of my husband's family made their living from the lake and one brother lost his life in 1944 when two ships collided in the fog. Keep us posted on your quest. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

Susan, I have only found Alfred and Mildred in Lorain County. There are estates on file at the Probate Court for them, but I have no years of deaths. I have checked other online resources and found this family in Wisconsin on the 1900 Census. On the 1930 Census, Hugo is living with his parents in Erie, PA. According to the Social Security Death Index, Hugo died in 1989 and Alfred died in May of 1973. I have found absolutely no reference of any kind to a Vincent Sharky on any of the census records available through www.ancestry.com or Heritage Quest Census records. I hope this gives you some more clues. I will send you copies of the census records via separate email. Margaret Cheney Susan wrote on 6/14/2005, 10:45 PM: > Thank you for your responses and suggesting posting more information. > > These are the Thielke I know about and the only information I have... > > > Ida Thielke was born 12/23/1887 > married Vincent Sharky > She died 7/14/1914 > > Alfred Thielke > born 9/2/1891 > married Mildred (last name unknown) > one child Marilyn > > Hugo Thielke > born 9/28/1895 > married Helen Adams > > Martha Thielke > died in Erie, PA > never married > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

Susan, Can you give us more information as to where in Lorain County this family may have lived? Were Ida, Alfred and Hugo siblings? Did they move on to other parts of the United States? I do see in the Social Security Death Index an Alfred Thielke born Sept 2 1891 and died May 1973 with a reference to Lorain County. Any dates or more information might be helpful in finding this family for you. Margaret Susan wrote on 6/14/2005, 8:30 PM: > Hi, I am new to this list and I am researching the surname of Thielke. > I am hoping to find information regarding the following Thielke: > Ida who married Vincent Sharky > Alfred who married Mildred (last name unknown) > Hugo who married Helen Adams > Martha > > If anyone on the list is familiar with these names, I would be so glad > to hear from you. ... thanks > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

Thank you for your responses and suggesting posting more information. These are the Thielke I know about and the only information I have... Ida Thielke was born 12/23/1887 married Vincent Sharky She died 7/14/1914 Alfred Thielke born 9/2/1891 married Mildred (last name unknown) one child Marilyn Hugo Thielke born 9/28/1895 married Helen Adams Martha Thielke died in Erie, PA never married

Hi, I am new to this list and I am researching the surname of Thielke. I am hoping to find information regarding the following Thielke: Ida who married Vincent Sharky Alfred who married Mildred (last name unknown) Hugo who married Helen Adams Martha If anyone on the list is familiar with these names, I would be so glad to hear from you. ... thanks

Pennola wrote: >Hi Everyone, > Can anyone tell me where Maple grove cemetery is? I know it's at the NE cornerof cemetery Road and Mason Road I want to know what town it is in. >Thanks penny > > >==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page >http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > > > > > Hi Penny, Maple Grove Cemetery is in Vermilion Township, Erie County. It is southwest of Vermilion. From Vermilion go south on rt 60 for 4 or 5 miles, (at Axtel) then west on Mason Rd for 1 mile. From Lorain County, Mason Rd is an extension of North Ridge Rd,. the address would be Vermilion, OH. Riddle Funeral Home in Vermilion is in charge of Maple Grove Cemetery. John [email protected]

Sorry, Mary was buried in Avon, Avon Township if that makes any difference as to what newspapers might have run something. Leslie >>> [email protected] 6/10/2005 12:31 PM >>> Any advice on what newspaper might have run an obituary for a Mary Livingston, died on August 5, 1852? Buried in Westwood Cemetery. Were any of the local newspapers more likely than others to run death notices? Thanks, Leslie LaCount ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

Any advice on what newspaper might have run an obituary for a Mary Livingston, died on August 5, 1852? Buried in Westwood Cemetery. Were any of the local newspapers more likely than others to run death notices? Thanks, Leslie LaCount

Ken, we are reasonably sure he did not have a son who lived into adulthood, but thanks for making us aware of this possibility. Don -----Original Message----- From: kenneth [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Peter Peterson I don't know if there is any connection,but there was a Pet Pederson living in Elyria in the 1940's. He worked at the lace factory( Elyria Lace Co) Ken

Thank you, Deb. We'll do some further checking on these leads. Don -----Original Message----- From: NatureGem [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] Peter Peterson Hi Don, I don't have the answers you're looking for exactly, but a couple other pieces of information you may not have and a few suggestions. I used to live in Columbia Township and its right on the edge of Cuyahoga and Medina Counties. On the 1880 census, he is divorced, age 42, and living with his brother Charles Peterson, age 45, and two other men -- Edward Nelson age 22, and John Johnson age 21. They are all quarry men. The only quarry I know of around there was in Olmsted Falls on the old East River Rd. North, which is in Cuyahoga County at the intersection where Columbia Twp meets. So you may want to look for cemeteries in that area. Also, his daughter Hannah Clarabelle Peterson was married in Rockford, Illinois (the second largest settlement of Swedes in the U.S.) on Feb 11, 1892 to Karl Victor Berglund, and is buried at Rose City Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Often parents live near their children in later years, so you may want to look in the Rockford, Illinois and/or Portland, Oregon areas also, although I believe he would have died before she went to Oregon. Hope something here is helpful. -Deb

Hi Everyone, Can anyone tell me where Maple grove cemetery is? I know it's at the NE cornerof cemetery Road and Mason Road I want to know what town it is in. Thanks penny

Hi Don, I don't have the answers you're looking for exactly, but a couple other pieces of information you may not have and a few suggestions. I used to live in Columbia Township and its right on the edge of Cuyahoga and Medina Counties. On the 1880 census, he is divorced, age 42, and living with his brother Charles Peterson, age 45, and two other men -- Edward Nelson age 22, and John Johnson age 21. They are all quarry men. The only quarry I know of around there was in Olmsted Falls on the old East River Rd. North, which is in Cuyahoga County at the intersection where Columbia Twp meets. So you may want to look for cemeteries in that area. Also, his daughter Hannah Clarabelle Peterson was married in Rockford, Illinois (the second largest settlement of Swedes in the U.S.) on Feb 11, 1892 to Karl Victor Berglund, and is buried at Rose City Cemetery in Portland, Oregon. Often parents live near their children in later years, so you may want to look in the Rockford, Illinois and/or Portland, Oregon areas also, although I believe he would have died before she went to Oregon. Hope something here is helpful. -Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don & Marianne Hampton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Peter Peterson >I recently located Peter Peterson in Lorain County. He lived in the > Westview area of Columbia Township, was born about 1837/1838 in Sweden, > obtained a marriage license on 21 Sep 1867, and had a daughter named > Hannah > on 16 Feb 1873. Beyond this, I have not been able to locate a death > record > or cemetery location for him. I am most anxious to find out what city in > Sweden he came from, as well as the names of his parents, so I am hoping > that his actual marriage record and/or some church records and/or a death > record will give the names of his parents and that city in Sweden. Are > there any other records in Lorain County that might give this information > or > the year he arrived in Lorain County? Which cemeteries would a person > living in Westview likely be buried in? Which churches would have been > attended by people living in Westview and Columbia Township? Would these > churches possibly have been in Berea? Does the local library have a > collection of obituaries for this area? We do not know when he died, but > believe it was before 1900. Your help will be most appreciated. > Sincerely, > Don Hampton - [email protected] > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

I don't know if there is any connection,but there was a Pet Pederson living in Elyria in the 1940's. He worked at the lace factory( Elyria Lace Co) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don & Marianne Hampton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Peter Peterson >I recently located Peter Peterson in Lorain County. He lived in the > Westview area of Columbia Township, was born about 1837/1838 in Sweden, > obtained a marriage license on 21 Sep 1867, and had a daughter named > Hannah > on 16 Feb 1873. Beyond this, I have not been able to locate a death > record > or cemetery location for him. I am most anxious to find out what city in > Sweden he came from, as well as the names of his parents, so I am hoping > that his actual marriage record and/or some church records and/or a death > record will give the names of his parents and that city in Sweden. Are > there any other records in Lorain County that might give this information > or > the year he arrived in Lorain County? Which cemeteries would a person > living in Westview likely be buried in? Which churches would have been > attended by people living in Westview and Columbia Township? Would these > churches possibly have been in Berea? Does the local library have a > collection of obituaries for this area? We do not know when he died, but > believe it was before 1900. Your help will be most appreciated. > Sincerely, > Don Hampton - [email protected] > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

I recently located Peter Peterson in Lorain County. He lived in the Westview area of Columbia Township, was born about 1837/1838 in Sweden, obtained a marriage license on 21 Sep 1867, and had a daughter named Hannah on 16 Feb 1873. Beyond this, I have not been able to locate a death record or cemetery location for him. I am most anxious to find out what city in Sweden he came from, as well as the names of his parents, so I am hoping that his actual marriage record and/or some church records and/or a death record will give the names of his parents and that city in Sweden. Are there any other records in Lorain County that might give this information or the year he arrived in Lorain County? Which cemeteries would a person living in Westview likely be buried in? Which churches would have been attended by people living in Westview and Columbia Township? Would these churches possibly have been in Berea? Does the local library have a collection of obituaries for this area? We do not know when he died, but believe it was before 1900. Your help will be most appreciated. Sincerely, Don Hampton - [email protected]

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