I am looking for information on Leland Rawson born about 1890 or so, from Lorain County. He married Margaret Murbach and his mother's name was Metta. I believe he had a brother named Leslie. He moved to California but made several visits back to Lorain County. Does anyone know who his father was? Possibly a maiden name for his mother? Thanks for your help, Mona Caldwell Orlando, Fla. Visit my webpage at _FTM:MENNELL / NICHOLS_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html) Researching the Azeltine, Caldwell, Crow(e), Felt, Gage, Haven, Mennell, Nichols, Palmateer, Stickney, Taylor and many, many more.

The Great Lakes Chapter of the Association of Professional Genealogists is sponsoring an Advanced Genealogy Discussion Group. The next meeting is on Saturday, September 17, 2005. The purpose of the group is to discuss advanced genealogical methodology as presented in case studies that have appeared in various scholarly genealogical publications. The group meets the third Saturday of the month, starting at 10:00 am, at one of the Akron-Summit County Public Library meeting rooms. The library is located at 60 South High St., Akron, OH. The meetings last about one and one-half hours. The discussions are free but pre-registration is required. Any experienced genealogical researcher is welcome to enroll. As a pre-requisite, participants should be familiar with Dr. William M. Litchman's article, "Teaching Analysis, Logic, and the Research Process: A Seminar Approach", from the NGS News Magazine, Nov/Dec 2000, pages 340-343. Each participant is requested to read several times, in advance of the meeting, the article to be discussed at the meeting. The article chosen for the September 17, 2005 discussion appeared in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, June 2005. It is titled "Tracking a Loner on the Move: J. W. Parberry Exposed by the Genealogical Proof Standard" beginning on page 94. To register, or for any questions, contact Robert Keener at [email protected] or call (330) 836-4448.

Sorry listers, I was taken in too! LCCUG Membership Director wrote: > Fellow members, > > Well it seems like even I can get caught by a hoax, kind of..... > > The Truth > The U.S. government has established a "do not call" registry > where you can list phone numbers you want blocked from > unsolicited calls such as from telemarketers. > That registry is for both wired and mobile phones and there > is no deadline by which a phone number needs to be listed in > order to be protected from telemarketing calls. > There is not a separate cell phone registry. > The registry is at: www.donotcall.gov. > > > That's why the government website came up when I checked into it. > > The Hoax > Is there a listing being prepared to give to telemarketers, > NO. That is where the hoax is. > > The Truth > Six national wireless companies (AllTel, AT&T Wireless, > Cingular, Nextel, Sprint PCS, and T-Mobile) have banded > together and hired Qsent, Inc. to produce a Wireless 411 > service. Their goal is to pool their listings to create a > comprehensive directory of cell phone customer names and > phone numbers that would be made available to directory > assistance providers. (In most places, telephone users can > call directory assistance at 411 [for local numbers] or by > dialing an area code plus 555-1212 [for out-of-area numbers] > and, by providing enough information to identify an > individual phone customer [usually a full name and city of > residence], obtain that customer's phone number. > > > For those of you who are cell phone users, check out these > websites for more information, > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp > Updated May of 2005 > http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/celldirectory.htm > Updated Dec of 2004 > > > > Edith Lewandowski - Membership Director > Lorain County Computer Users Group > http://www.LCCUG.com > [email protected] -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Not genealogy, but thought it was important! Sue LCCUG Membership Director wrote: > > > Fellow members, > > I received this message from Carole Doerr. LCCUG VP. After > checking with others, it was decided to send it on to the > rest of you. Edie > > ------------------------------------- > > JUST A REMINDER... 30 days from today, cell phone numbers are > being released to telemarketing companies and you will start > to receive sale calls. YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS... > To prevent this, call the following number from your cell > phone: 888/382-1222. It is the National DO NOT CALL list. It > will only take a minute of your time. It blocks your number > for five (5) years. PASS THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS; Or you > can register on line at: http://www.donotcall.gov/ > > > > > > Edith Lewandowski - Membership Director > Lorain County Computer Users Group > http://www.LCCUG.com > [email protected] -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Hi list, FYI "Elissa Scalise Powell, CGRS" wrote: > The North Hills Genealogists [of Pittsburgh] invites you to join them on a > bus trip to Washington, DC from Sunday, September 25 through Thursday > September 29. Many Ohioans are already on board since the pick-up point is > only 30 miles from the Ohio state line in Cranberry Township, PA at the > confluence of I-76, I-79 and Route 19. > > Prices will never be cheaper for 4-nights, one meal and bus ride ranging > from $205 (quad) to $295 (double). Singles are also available. Everyone gets > their own bed, even in the quad. Research is not a requirement so if you > know anyone who wants to spend 5 days/4 nights in Washington, please have > them go to www.NorthHillsGenealogists.org for more information. The deadline > is August 31. > > -- Elissa Powell in Pittsburgh > > ==== OHCAGG Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: Dick Rose <[email protected]> > My Genealogy: http://members.cox.net/dtrose/ > Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen L.C. Mailing List, http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

Hi. Is anyone else having trouble getting on the Lorain County site? I tried and get a message "Not Found - The requested URL/lorgen was not found on this server". Is it my computer or is there a problem? Thanks. Lois Baker Rochester Twp.

The Lorain County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society will meet on Monday, September 12, 2005 at the North Ridgeville Branch of the Lorain Public Library, 35700 Bainbridge Road (East of SR 83), North Ridgeville. Ohio. Guest Speaker is Dianne Kauffman of Kent, Ohio who will present "Female Spies of the Civil War." Social time is 6:30 pm, meeting and program is 7:00 pm. The program is free and open to the public. For information contact Margaret at [email protected] or Jean at [email protected] Respectfully Submitted, Jean Copeland, VP Lorain County Chapter of OGS

You might try writing to Robert Greene, the author or you may just have to zerox a copy. Phyllis Yarber Hogan ----- Original Message ----- From: Deb Evans <[email protected]> Date: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:53 pm Subject: [OHLORAIN] The Leary-Evans, Ohio's People of Color by Robert Ewell Greene > Hello List, > > I was wondering if someone could help me. I am looking for an out > of print > book "The Leary-Evans, Ohio's People of Color" by Robert Ewell > Greene. I > have searched all the out of print sites that came up on google > with no > results. Might someone know of a resource that I could check for > this book. > > I did find the book in the Oberlin Public Library but it's a non- > checkoutbook and the Cincinnati Library doesn't have it. > > Any suggestion, help, ideas, or direction would greatly be > appreciated. > > Thank you > > Deborah Evans > > ggg-granddaughter of Wilson Bruce Evans > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

Hello List, I was wondering if someone could help me. I am looking for an out of print book "The Leary-Evans, Ohio's People of Color" by Robert Ewell Greene. I have searched all the out of print sites that came up on google with no results. Might someone know of a resource that I could check for this book. I did find the book in the Oberlin Public Library but it's a non-checkout book and the Cincinnati Library doesn't have it. Any suggestion, help, ideas, or direction would greatly be appreciated. Thank you Deborah Evans ggg-granddaughter of Wilson Bruce Evans

Some privacy concerns -- particularly with genealogy data, are probably overblown, especially when one considers much of the information has been in the public domain for years and can be quite easily found if someone is determined to find information.. But anyone who has their social security number printed on their checks or readily gives it out as identification may well find themselves the object of identity theft. Most corporate agencies are using numbers other than social security for insurance card ids, on billing statements, etc. to prevent the numbers from getting into the wrong hands. Even Social Security does not now print out the entire number on most correspondence. Yes, those vital records are expensive, but it must cost government quite a bit of money to process them for genealogy purposes when one considers the cost of salaries, health insurance for the employees, etc. In my opinion we each should pay our own way for our hobby and let our taxpayer money go towards projects that serve everyone. I don't think raising the cost of vital records has much if anything to do with identity theft. Limiting restriction to proven family may or may not. Just my opinion.... Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [OHLORAIN] database > > In a message dated 8/22/2005 2:52:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > down. My half brother who I had last heard from in 1963 is still living > at > age 87. All this privacy stuff I find quite ridiculous > Amen! I think they used it as an excuse to triple the costs of > certificates > since genealogy became such a widespread hobby. Our names, birthdates > are > on our drivers license; some have their phone nos. and ss nos. on the > checks; > names & birthdates & marriage dates are on the gravestones in cemeteries > of > people who aren't deceased yet; info. is on our taxes and so on. Raising > the > costs and limiting availability of the certicates is not going to curb > identity theft. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN > >

In a message dated 8/22/2005 2:52:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: down. My half brother who I had last heard from in 1963 is still living at age 87. All this privacy stuff I find quite ridiculous Amen! I think they used it as an excuse to triple the costs of certificates since genealogy became such a widespread hobby. Our names, birthdates are on our drivers license; some have their phone nos. and ss nos. on the checks; names & birthdates & marriage dates are on the gravestones in cemeteries of people who aren't deceased yet; info. is on our taxes and so on. Raising the costs and limiting availability of the certicates is not going to curb identity theft.

Yeh, what a crock!!! Lola > In order to create, edit, or block your record and/or to add a > ZabaLink, all for free, you must make that request in writing and mail > it to: > ZabaTools, P.O. Box 45210 Omaha, NE 68145.

Nancy; Thanks for revealing this site. To night I spoke to a nephew I hadn't seen in 55 years. He has a common name but the date of birth narrowed it down. My half brother who I had last heard from in 1963 is still living at age 87. All this privacy stuff I find quite ridiculous. David Maynard Franklin NC [email protected] At Saturday 8/20/2005, you wrote: >I orginally had sent this message to LC list on >Aug. 13th. It did not go thru for some reason. >This was forwarded to me from another list: >"Beginning May 2005 a new database became >available to the public, free of charge that >displays personal names, addresses, phone numbers >& birth dates. The database is found at >www.zabasearch.com Check your name & info. If >you want it removed, email them at >[email protected]" >Nancy Meyers > > > > >==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page >http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 "Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right, you meet the same idiots coming around from the left." Clint Eastwood 2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005

To all I wrote to this zabasearch data base and received the following information: In order to create, edit, or block your record and/or to add a ZabaLink, all for free, you must make that request in writing and mail it to: ZabaTools, P.O. Box 45210 Omaha, NE 68145. Hope this is helpful! Shirley Hunt Nancy Meyers <[email protected]> wrote: I orginally had sent this message to LC list on Aug. 13th. It did not go thru for some reason. This was forwarded to me from another list: "Beginning May 2005 a new database became available to the public, free of charge that displays personal names, addresses, phone numbers & birth dates. The database is found at www.zabasearch.com Check your name & info. If you want it removed, email them at [email protected]" Nancy Meyers ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen Shirley --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

Re St. Mary's of Avon, The Diocese should have copy of these records. However, it would be important to determine in advance which Diocese the church was in for the years you seek. The Cleveland Diocese has a wetsite and full-time archivist, tho I understand the archivist is very slow to respond. Re records from St. Martin of Tours in formerly Liverpool, now Valley City, Medina County. St. Martin's parish covers some of Lorain county): Getting records is nearly a lost cause. I understand that the records are fragile and the office is understaffed. However, apparently the task is not insurmountable. I was lucky to find a member on the Medina list who was able to use his considerable charm to obtain several family recods Wondering if anyone online has had any luck with St. Martin's Also wondering what records others have found in the Catholic Church holdings. I was surprised to receive information from a St. Martin's parish census from the late 1800's. Are there other censuses? Sunday School Records, Members lists etc. Shirley in San Diego On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 06:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Nancy Meyers <[email protected]> writes: > Fellow researchers, > Below is a message, in part, from a fellow that > I helped a bit last year. He was just beginning > family history research for himself and his wife. > Curious to know if any of you had this local > problem & how YOU managed to deal with it? > ........ "Church records were a breeze to gain at > St Mary's in Elyria.....was made very welcome & > spent 7 hrs pouring over each volume. They > allowed me access to everything they had in the > safe. I was quite appreciative......I met the > complete opposite in my quest at St Mary's in > Avon. I have a portion obtained from the > Cleveland Public Library up through the late > 1800's but anything from that point on - nothing > could be had. The priest actually got on the > phone and told me that is "personal and private" > information period and told me to send back a > form. I am still awaiting a response to my > submission of this several months > ago"............ > Note: this is another message that had been sent > to the list on Aug. 13th. > > > Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH > OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ > Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN > > >

I found it very helpful in tracking down a number of my cousins. Information cames from property records and prob voting app records (birthdates). The latter is no longer public here in California as of the early 1990's. On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:22:02 -0700 "Bill and Myrna" <[email protected]> writes: > Thanks Nancy, > > We were on it, as well as my deceased father-in-law. I wrote and > asked to have the names removed. > They get the info from the telephone book, but have no idea how they > get the birth dates. Wow, no > privacy at all anymore. > Myrna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nancy Meyers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:36 AM > Subject: [OHLORAIN] database > > > >I orginally had sent this message to LC list on > > Aug. 13th. It did not go thru for some reason. > > This was forwarded to me from another list: > > "Beginning May 2005 a new database became > > available to the public, free of charge that > > displays personal names, addresses, phone numbers > > & birth dates. The database is found at > > www.zabasearch.com Check your name & info. If > > you want it removed, email them at > > [email protected]" > > Nancy Meyers > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN > > >

Thanks Nancy, We were on it, as well as my deceased father-in-law. I wrote and asked to have the names removed. They get the info from the telephone book, but have no idea how they get the birth dates. Wow, no privacy at all anymore. Myrna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Meyers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:36 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] database >I orginally had sent this message to LC list on > Aug. 13th. It did not go thru for some reason. > This was forwarded to me from another list: > "Beginning May 2005 a new database became > available to the public, free of charge that > displays personal names, addresses, phone numbers > & birth dates. The database is found at > www.zabasearch.com Check your name & info. If > you want it removed, email them at > [email protected]" > Nancy Meyers > > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen >

Happy day! Just yesterday was able to add to my personal library some special items from a local yard sale. A 1908 telephone directory publisned by the Black River Telephone Co. If you would like a lookup please contact me off line at [email protected] Be cautioned that this info is for the city of Lorain & outlying areas and was compiled from info available late in 1907. The old system of street names & numbers were still in use at that time. (They changed in 1908) Many, many folks who operated small businesses out of their homes are listed. Also purchased a 1937 Lorain telephone book and a 1989 city directory. Was also able to add a couple of Lorain HS year books to my collection from the 30's. Am always in the marker for these sort of items, if you know of any that might be available please do let me know. Of course, all these items will end up at a genealogy/historical group someday. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

Fellow researchers, Below is a message, in part, from a fellow that I helped a bit last year. He was just beginning family history research for himself and his wife. Curious to know if any of you had this local problem & how YOU managed to deal with it? ........ "Church records were a breeze to gain at St Mary's in Elyria.....was made very welcome & spent 7 hrs pouring over each volume. They allowed me access to everything they had in the safe. I was quite appreciative......I met the complete opposite in my quest at St Mary's in Avon. I have a portion obtained from the Cleveland Public Library up through the late 1800's but anything from that point on - nothing could be had. The priest actually got on the phone and told me that is "personal and private" information period and told me to send back a form. I am still awaiting a response to my submission of this several months ago"............ Note: this is another message that had been sent to the list on Aug. 13th. Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH OGS Life Member http://www.ogs.org/ Genealogy Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

I orginally had sent this message to LC list on Aug. 13th. It did not go thru for some reason. This was forwarded to me from another list: "Beginning May 2005 a new database became available to the public, free of charge that displays personal names, addresses, phone numbers & birth dates. The database is found at www.zabasearch.com Check your name & info. If you want it removed, email them at [email protected]" Nancy Meyers