Hello everyone, I just subscribed to this list. I was advised by other geneological buffs that the people on this list know a great deal. My maternal great-grandmother died in Carlisle Twp. in 1899. There were a number of children. I have not located all of them and would like some information on Gore Orphanage. Does anyone know if it was in existience in 1899-1900? Would there be any records salvaged from there? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Roberta Chapin [email protected]

MIND FEAST 2005: A GENEALOGICAL BUFFET FOR YOUR BRAIN The Oberlin African-American Genealogy and History Group will sponsor its 2nd full day genealogy seminar on Saturday, November 5, 2005 from 9:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. This event is free but pre-registration is required. Registration forms may be obtained at the Oberlin Public Library or at the OAAGHG website (ttp://www.geocities.com/ oberlinaagenealogy/Programs.html). The program is open to all members of the public, but pre-registration is a must. Five scrumptious sessions have been prepared to satisfy even the most discriminating genealogy-lover’s palate: 1) Beginning Genealogy: Where Do I Start presented by Deborah Abbott, African-American Genealogical Society of Cleveland, Ohio; 2) Searching For Your Native American Ancestors presented by Barbara Birmelin, Nation’s Mother of East of The River Shawnee Nation, Mansfield, Ohio; 3) Whose Jubilee? The African-American Experience in Oberlin After the Civil War presented by Oberlin College History Professors, Carol Lasser and Gary Kornblith; 4) It’s A Needle In A Haystack: Slave Research with Deborah Abbott; and, 5) Researching Free Persons of Color (FPOC) . . . Who, When and Where presented by Art Thomas, African-American Genealogy Group of the Miami Valley, Springfield, Ohio. Immediately following the program, an optional walking tour of Oberlin will be offered, weather permitting.

Sorry, everyone, about the change in the web address for the Lorain County genealogy page. My provider did not notify me of this recent change. In the past they allowed me to keep the old address when I explained my dilemma: I had tried to keep the original URL, because if Lorain County was googled, we were in the top 3. I hated to have to change it. So, my apologies! The corrected address is below in my signature. Sue -- Sue Strick, Lorain County Coordinator for OHGenWeb Lorain County Genealogy Page, http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen/ L.C. Mailing List, http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen/mail.htm

A good friend of mine passed away in May 2004, leaving me some personal items that I would like to give to any relatives out there. They are of sentimental value and would only be of interest to someone who is "into" genealogy. The two people whose items I have are: Murlon Krueck (first husband of Carrie Dobbeck) who passed away in the early 1930's and Fred (Fritz) Schneider (second husband of Carrie) who passed away in 1974. Please contact me off list if you are related or know of someone who is. Thanks! Gayle [email protected]

Thanks Jean, For the last few years the address has been _http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/_ (http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/) and I see now that the address has changed to _http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen_ (http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen) . Problem solved for me ; ) Thanks, Mona Caldwell Orlando, Fla. Visit my webpage at _FTM:MENNELL / NICHOLS_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html) Researching the Azeltine, Caldwell, Crow(e), Felt, Gage, Haven, Mennell, Nichols, Palmateer, Stickney, Taylor and many, many more.

The url for the Lorain Web Page is: http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen If you have further problems or notice any broken links please notify the webmaster at [email protected] Sue wants to be aware of any problems with the site. Hope this takes care of the problem for you and any other visitor to the website. Jean Copeland

Hi Mona - About a month ago I had trouble getting on the Lorain County site by using bookmark that I always had. The url http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen/ was sent to me by someone on the Lorain County list and it goes through. I hope this will get you through. By the way, I made another bookmark using this url and it goes through okay. Lois Baker [email protected] wrote: > Hello, > > I have been trying for a week or more to get on the Lorain Page with no > luck. The address that I have been using is > _Lorain County Ohio Home Page_ (http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/) > > Has there been an address change for the page? Could someone give me the > address to pull up the Lorain page? > > Thanks > Mona Caldwell > > Orlando, Fla. > Visit my webpage at _FTM:MENNELL / NICHOLS_ > (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html) > > Researching the Azeltine, Caldwell, Crow(e), Felt, Gage, Haven, Mennell, > Nichols, Palmateer, Stickney, Taylor and many, many more. > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen

I never get in...Can go to home page, some behind that, but can't access the message boards, even with the hot link that was sent to me! Patricia [email protected] wrote: Thanks Peggy, I'll try it your way ; ) Mona Caldwell Orlando, Fla. Visit my webpage at _FTM:MENNELL / NICHOLS_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html) Researching the Azeltine, Caldwell, Crow(e), Felt, Gage, Haven, Mennell, Nichols, Palmateer, Stickney, Taylor and many, many more. ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN mine is the sunlight, mine is the morning born of the one light, eden saw play praise with elation, praise every morning god's recreation of the new day Morning has broken as sung by Cat Stevens

Thanks Peggy, I'll try it your way ; ) Mona Caldwell Orlando, Fla. Visit my webpage at _FTM:MENNELL / NICHOLS_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html) Researching the Azeltine, Caldwell, Crow(e), Felt, Gage, Haven, Mennell, Nichols, Palmateer, Stickney, Taylor and many, many more.

I had trouble getting to it earlier today. Don't know why.........I typed it in and it came through OK, but not by trying through favorites.......Curious, huh? Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Lorain Web Page > Hello, > > I have been trying for a week or more to get on the Lorain Page with no > luck. The address that I have been using is > _Lorain County Ohio Home Page_ (http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/) > > Has there been an address change for the page? Could someone give me the > address to pull up the Lorain page? > > Thanks > Mona Caldwell > > Orlando, Fla. > Visit my webpage at _FTM:MENNELL / NICHOLS_ > (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html) > > Researching the Azeltine, Caldwell, Crow(e), Felt, Gage, Haven, Mennell, > Nichols, Palmateer, Stickney, Taylor and many, many more. > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Lorain County Genealogy page > http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen > >

Hello, I have been trying for a week or more to get on the Lorain Page with no luck. The address that I have been using is _Lorain County Ohio Home Page_ (http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen/) Has there been an address change for the page? Could someone give me the address to pull up the Lorain page? Thanks Mona Caldwell Orlando, Fla. Visit my webpage at _FTM:MENNELL / NICHOLS_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/l/Romona-Louise-Caldwell/index.html) Researching the Azeltine, Caldwell, Crow(e), Felt, Gage, Haven, Mennell, Nichols, Palmateer, Stickney, Taylor and many, many more.

October snuck up on us and the Annual First Families and Settlers Banquet of the Lorain County Chapter of OGS is just around the corner. This year the banquet will be held on Saturday, October 22 at the First United Methodist Church - on the Square - Wellington, Ohio. Punch: 4:15 pm Dinner: 5:00 pm. Home cooked! Following the induction of candidates for First Families and Settlers, Mildred Arthrell will entertain us with stories of the life of Laura Ingalls Wilder, the author of Little House on the Prairie. Reservations can still be made by contacting Margaret Cheney at [email protected], phone 440-323-5080; or Jean Copeland at [email protected], phone 440-949-5167. Or you can download a registration form on our website at http://home.centurytel.net/lorgen The chapter banquet is open to everyone. We look forward to renewing acquaintances and meeting new people who all share our interest in genealogy! Come and join the fun! Hope to see you there! Respectfully submitted, Jean Copeland VP, Lorain County Chapter of OGS

Tickets are still available for the OGS Annual Fall Seminar on Saturday, October 1 from 9:00 am to 4:30 pm at the Shelby, Ohio campus of North Central State College. Featured speaker will be Cyndi Howells the author of Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet, www.cyndislist.com Tickets are $25.00 for OGS Members and $35.00 for non-members. Go to the OGS website at www.ogs.org for directions, information, and online registration using PayPal; or call OGS at 419-756-7294. Party with OGS: A Post-Conference reception honoring Cyndi Howells and celebrating Family History Month will be held at the Ohio Genealogical Society Library, 713 S. Main St., Mansfield. The Library will remain open 5:00-8:00pm for extended research hours following the reception.

Hi Deb, Thank you for the information that you sent. I appreciate the time and effort you took to help me. The Polly Clark information, I believe, is correct concerning her parents. Although some researchers say that she didn't marry William Stewart Maynard. I am told that she married an unknown Maynard. I thought her obituary might list a former husband since she died after 1880. I haven't found the obit. yet. The Manning Ware information, I still need to do more digging. About a year ago, I sent and inquiry to another researcher about the possibility of Manning Ware being connected with Frederick Ware and Jemima Manning. I was thinking that Frederick and Jemima were grandparents. Somehow this inquiry became factual, even though the other researcher posted a note that he had no confirmation of Manning being the son of Frederick and Jemima.....others have taken the information as factual. Thanks again, Jim Taylor

Hi Jim, I think I e-mailed you with info a long time ago. Still no obituary, but I did see some more interesting information on the Latter Day Saints files on this family, so I'll pass it along in case some of it is useful. Deb Polly Clark is the daughter of William Clark who was born 1764 in Shrewsbury, VT and died Feb 23, 1798 and Elizabeth Smith b: Aug 9, 1764 in Weston, MA. William and Elizabeth were married on Aug 9, 1780 in North Clarendon, VT. Polly was born 1785 in Clarendon, VT (where all of her siblings were born). Polly's siblings were Nahum b: Dec 28, 1784 in Clarendon, Vt (married Reliance Smith in VT and had daughter Prudence Clark b: 1805 in Hubbard, VT), Isaac Clark b: Mar 19, 1787, Lucy Clark, b: May 28, 1790 (d:Aug 15, 1846 in Pittsfield and married Horatio Harmon on Jan 28, 1811, buried East Pittsfield Cemetery), Abigail Clark b: Apr 6, 1792, Walter Clark b: Aug 3, 1781, Mercy Clark b: Mar 13, 1783, Nabley Clark b: Feb 4, 1795, and William Clark Jr. b: after 1795. Polly first married William Stewart Maynard, and he is listed on the 1830 Madison, Richland, OH census where he supposedly died. Polly second married Seth Manley who was b: 1772 and died 1849, and is buried in Chittendon, Rutland, Vt. Polly and William had Mary Jane Maynard on Oct 24, 1820 in Pittsford, Rutland, Vt. Mary Jane married Manning Ware, who was born Apr 9, 1808, and was the youngest of 12 children. Manning Ware's parents are Frederick Ware Sr., b: Sep 3, 1760, died Dec 16, 1832 and Jemima Manning b: Dec 9, 1761 d: Apr 23, 1850. They were married in 1785, and she was his second wife. Frederick Ware Sr.'s first wife was Eunice Emerson b: 1756 who he married in 1783 and they had a daughter Stella born Aug 2, 1784. Besides Manning Ware, Frederick and Jemima's other children were Melatiah Ware b: Aug 20, 1786, Nancy Ware b: Sep 2, 1788, Frederick Ware Jr., b: Dec 4, 1790, Horace Ware b: Jan 22 1793, Mary Ware b: Feb 4, 1795, Charles Ware b: Jan 10, 1798, Betsey Ware b: Oct 24, 1799, Leonard Ware b: Jul 16, 1801, Thomas Ware, b: Aug 7, 1803, and Lucy Ware b: Oct 30, 1805. Some of Frederick and Jemima's children were born in Pomfret, VT and baptised in Jericho, VT, and some went to Minnesota. Frederick Ware Sr. is listed on the 1820 Buckskin, Ross Cty, OH census with 7 people in the household. Frederick Ware Sr.'s parents were Jonathan Ware Jr. b: Apr 16, 1734 d: Mar 8, 1774 and Meletiah Metcalf b: Oct 16 1736 d: Jul 27, 1821. They were married in 1756. Meletiah Metcalf was the daughter of Samuel Metcalf Sr. b: Jan 15, 1688 and Judith George b: Apr 14, 1704. Jonathan Ware Jr.'s parents were Jonathan Ware Sr. b: Feb 28, 1686 d: Apr 20, 1740 and Melatiah Fisher b: Oct 6, 1705 d: Oct 3, 1758. They were married in 1733. Jonathan Ware Sr.'s parents were Robert Ware Sr. b: Aug 1, 1653 and Sarah Metcalf b: Dec 7, 1648. On the 1870 Chittenden, Rutland, Vermont Census: Polly Manley, age 85, born VT Living a few doors away from: Henry Maynard's family, age 36, born ~1834 in VT. Maria, wife, age 35, b: VT A daughter (can't read name), age 12, b: VT Carrie E. Maynard, age 10, b: VT Lottie L. Maynard, age 7, b: VT Charles Maynard, age 4, b: VT On the 1820 census is Seth Manley in Chittendon, Rutland, Vermont (also listed in this town is Eli and James Manley) In 1860, Frederick Ware Jr., Manning's older brother by 18 years, is living in Jericho, Chittenden, VT at age 69, farmer with wife Abigail, and in 1870 is 79 years old and widowed living with his daughter's family in Williston, Chittenden, VT. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Manning Ware and Polly Manly Obit. Lookup >I have not been able to find an obituary for my gggrandfather Manning >Ware. > He died or was buried April 9, 1880. He was buried in Camden Twp. Lorain > County. I am hoping that some one could find his obituary. I am trying > to > confirm my suspicions as to his parents identity. > Also I am trying to find an obituary for Manning Ware's mother-in-law, > Polly > Manly. Polly was on the 1880 census with her daughter Mary Jane Maynard > Ware living in Amherst, Lorain County. Polly was about 85 years old in > 1880. I > do not have a date of death for Polly. I am hoping to confirm that Polly > was a sister of Nahum Clark and daughter of Elizabeth Smith Clark Waite. > I am > hoping an obituary will have some information about family. > I would be grateful for any help in finding obituaries for Manning and > Polly. > Thanks, > Jim Taylor > > > > ==== OHLORAIN Mailing List ==== > Search the Archive of Messages for OHLORAIN Mailing List > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHLORAIN > >

Thank you for the obituaries for Manning Ware's wife. I do have these. The Extract about the Ware and Irish family from the History of the Western Reserve was very interesting. I have not seen this article. I do keep in touch with Charles and Jane (Ware) Irish's grandson. I just saw him last Sunday. I would like the rest of the article. It is very interesting that Charles and Jane lived in Ashtabula County. My Ware and Hazelton's started out in Lorain County and ended up in Ashtabula County. I am not sure why. Thank you so much for another piece of the family puzzle. Jim Taylor

Jim, There is another column to this narrative, please let me know if you would like the rest. Hope this is helpful to you. Richelle Extracted from Heritage Quest online History of the Western Reserve By Harriet Taylor Upton Chicago, Lewis Pub. Co., 1910, 2184 pgs. Pp. 1196-97 Charles Manning Irish, secretary and treasurer of the Lorain Banking Company, ex-treasurer of Lorain county and a prominent citizen of the city of Lorain, was born in Pittsfield, Lorain County, Ohio, September 14, 1862. He is a son of Charles and Jane (Ware) Irish, the father a native of New York State and the mother of Vermont. The Irish family is an old one in the state of New York, and the Wares are an old family in New England. Charles Irish removed to Pittsfield just before the Civil war, and began work for Manning Ware, a blacksmith, who later became his father-in-law. After his marriage he made his home in the adjoining township of Camden until the death of his wife, in 1895. For two years Mr. Irish lived at Rock Creek, at Ashtabula County, Ohio, and in 1898 came to the city of Lorain, where he died in 1899.

Jim, I couldn't find obits Manning Ware or Polly Manly, but did find two obits for Manning Ware's wife, Mary. Hope they are of some use to you. Richelle *********** Elyria Republican, The (Elyria, Ohio), December 24, 1896 PITTSFIELD. Mary Maynard was born in Pittsford, Rutland county, Vermont, October 24th, 1820, was married to Manning Ware, January 3d, 1839, with whom she came to Ohio in 1859, and settled in Pittsfield. They afterwards lived at various places. Her husband died April 9th, 1880. Since that time she has lived with her daughter and husband, Mr. And Mrs. John Barrance, where she died December 12th, aged 76 years, 1 month and 18 days. She experienced religion and united with the Methodist Episcopal Church in 1843. She has lived a conscientious Christian life. She was the mother of six children, all living except one -- two sons and three daughters. Three attended the funeral. William, of Ridgeville, Mattie Hazelton, of Penfield, and Adelia, of Pittsfield. Her son Dalton, living in Michigan, and daughter, Mrs. Susan Whitney of Colorado, were unable to be present. Funeral services were held at the home Tuesday forenoon, conducted by the Rev. T. D. Bentley. Interment in Camden cemetery. Lorain County Reporter (Elyria, Lorain, Ohio) December 19, 1896 Slowly and silently one by one, like autumn leaves, the older citizens are passing off the stage of action. Mrs. Mary Ware, aged seventy-six years, quietly laid down the earthly, to take up the immortal life last Saturday at the home of her daughter, Mrs. J. B. Barrance. She was born in Richland County, Ohio, in 1820. In 1839 she was married to Manning Ware. In 1858 together with her husband and family, she came to our town, where much of her life has been spent. Mrs. Ware was the mother of six children, one of whom preceded her into immortality. She early in life embraced religion and has ever been a faithful, consistent Christian. Her daily life was quiet and unassuming, and her first thought was for the happiness of others. The last sad rites were observed Tuesday, at the home of her daughter, and the remains laid quietly to rest in the Camden cemetery. Thus closes a useful and beautiful life, but its end is not yet for its influence will live on and on til time shall be no more. ----Mar. In a message dated 9/24/2005 3:51:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: have not been able to find an obituary for my gggrandfather Manning Ware. He died or was buried April 9, 1880. He was buried in Camden Twp. Lorain County. I am hoping that some one could find his obituary. I am trying to confirm my suspicions as to his parents identity. Also I am trying to find an obituary for Manning Ware's mother-in-law, Polly Manly. Polly was on the 1880 census with her daughter Mary Jane Maynard Ware living in Amherst, Lorain County. Polly was about 85 years old in 1880. I do not have a date of death for Polly. I am hoping to confirm that Polly was a sister of Nahum Clark and daughter of Elizabeth Smith Clark Waite. I am hoping an obituary will have some information about family. I would be grateful for any help in finding obituaries for Manning and Polly. Thanks, Jim Taylor

I have not been able to find an obituary for my gggrandfather Manning Ware. He died or was buried April 9, 1880. He was buried in Camden Twp. Lorain County. I am hoping that some one could find his obituary. I am trying to confirm my suspicions as to his parents identity. Also I am trying to find an obituary for Manning Ware's mother-in-law, Polly Manly. Polly was on the 1880 census with her daughter Mary Jane Maynard Ware living in Amherst, Lorain County. Polly was about 85 years old in 1880. I do not have a date of death for Polly. I am hoping to confirm that Polly was a sister of Nahum Clark and daughter of Elizabeth Smith Clark Waite. I am hoping an obituary will have some information about family. I would be grateful for any help in finding obituaries for Manning and Polly. Thanks, Jim Taylor

Nancy, Did your daughter and her family get out okay? I'm so glad that Houston wasn't hit. That would have been a major disaster for a city that size to have been devastated like New Orleans was and I thank God that Corpus Christi, where I am, was spared. We didn't even get a drop of rain from the storm, just high tides all the way up to the sand dunes. Joyce