This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DZB.2ACI/2477.1.1.2 Message Board Post: At this point, I'm checking in, too. I've corresponded with Dave & Elaine for some time now. Howdy, Lois. My focus is tracking and sorting all the HILL descendants from the John who was Caleb's grandpa, the 1st who settled NY at Dutchess Co with his kids, before the Revolution. My own line was Caleb's next-younger brother John. In the course of understanding all this I've learned a bit of geography and migration patterns. What's called the minisink is the area where NJ NY and PA all come together. In our frame of reference, the Hudson and Delaware rivers also drain right about here, so Pt Jervis is a good spot to keep in mind generally. A side note, recently out of curiosity I sorted the 1850 census, Orange Co NY for people born in all states and territories - staggering. I had no idea. About the only territory missing was UT. Texas, can you imagine! Isaac Bailey's parents were John Bailey and Hannah Vail. From what I can tell, Isaac was born right there at Wallkill also. His parents may have shifted over from Westchester. Mariah, Maria Jane Bailey married William M IAMS. From the researcher of that line I'm told that Isaac died 4 Nov 1848 and is buried at Johnstown, Licking Co, OH. My online tree named Stalking Dead People at ancestry/rootsweb will show 11 children, 8 with family info. Go there, hit descendancy link for the gedcom outline. Index will go right to any individual. I tweak this whole thing at any moment I get new, different, or better info, it's dynamic not static. Onceponnatime I'd thought New Yorkers migrating to OH used the great lakes, and some did. However, this bunch surely took ship to VA and traveled with those Virginians through the still fairly newly-improved Cumberland Gap route.