This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DZB.2ACI/2477.1.2 Message Board Post: This pair is among those of Caleb's descendancy we really need to do some work on. Although the original source much of this is based upon is a terrific resource, its sources are suspect. Let me discuss that. As I undertand it, much is based upon two bibles' entries but those bibles don't seem to exist or at least cannot be found. Let me describe two problems. I am not convince that "sons" David and Ira are sons of Hannah and Isaac. Ira's consistently b NY, so cannot have arrived OH until aft 1817. David b OH before the Baileys can have gotten there. Starting with Ira: see 1880: father b CT, sister Eunice. NOT part of this sibling group, not a son of Isaac. Uncle or cousin maybe 1850 > Ohio > Delaware > Berkshire Roll: M432_675 Page: 100 BAILY Ira A 33 waggen maker NY Lorene 29 OH WATSON John 41 tanner PA Manna 31 f OH Malinda 12, Mary Ellen 11, Phidelia 9, Sarah 7, Martha 6, all b OH skip to 1880 1880 Galva, Henry, Illinois Film Number T9-0213 Page Number 270B BAILEY Ira 62 planning mill NY CT NY Lorena 50 OH NH NY Delia 25 dressmaker, Harry 18 engineer, both b IL Eunice 57 tailoress sister NY CT NY (Johnson family, Sweden/IL servants Mary Albert Elic) see 1850 census index, here's Eunice with apparent parents James & Eve: James Baily Trenton, Delaware, OH abt 1794 New York Eve Baily Trenton, Delaware, OH abt 1792 New York Eunice Baily Trenton, Delaware, OH abt 1822 New York Fanny Baily Trenton, Delaware, OH abt 1830 New York Lewis Baily Trenton, Delaware, OH abt 1832 New York These are the 1840 Delaware Baileys - no James: David Baily Troy, Delaware, Ohio Israel Baily Norton, Delaware, Ohio Jesse Baily Harlem, Delaware, Ohio John Baily Berkshire, Delaware, Ohio Peter Baily Delaware, Delaware, Ohio Now, David. Rather than spam/paste it all here like that above, may I ask those interested refer to my online tree at rootsweb/ancestry.com for his record. Tell me where I'm wrong and why, let's work this through. What I'm saying is that a lot of original (re)work research needs doing. We're doing that. We need to collaborate.