This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorothySwanson44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3740.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I couldn't seem to be able to print it out. Could you send it to me at dgswan99@accessus.net. Thank you so very much. Dorothy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear Linda, I am glad to see that you are working on our Rices. Richard Nelson Rice, son of William and Sarah (LYNAM) Rice is my great-grandfather. He had brothers Charles W. Rice, Thomas Jefferson Rice (Jeff), and David. They had a sister Lucinda (Rice) Clarkston. My mother's mother was Fannie (Rice) Malone the daughter of Richard Nelson Rice and Rachel (Neal) Rice. She said that her mother talked much about her grandmother Sarah (Lynam) Rice. Sarah took turns staying with her children. But she never mentioned William Rice. I have no idea why they were not living together. I always thought it may be that they were very poor. The house that Sarah lived in in 1860 with her three sons seems to belong to Charles W. My mother talked often about her great-uncles Charles W. and Thomas Jefferson. She said very little about David and nothing about Lucinda. I think it was because David and Lucinda moved to Lawrence Co. KY. David died there in 1901 and Lucinda d. around 1913/1916. I am working on a history of my Rice family. If you want to ask questions, and if I know the answer, I will be glad to answer. By the way, I got my copy of your history, and enjoyed it very much. I love Lawrence and Gallia Counties and know many people there. Helen (Dillon) Riley -----Original Message----- >From: Linda Trent <lindatrent@zoomnet.net> >Sent: Oct 27, 2007 11:37 AM >To: kybath@rootsweb.com, OHLAWREN@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [OHLAWREN] [KYBATH] Need verification on 1827 marriage > >On the Bath Kentucky list I asked for verification of an 1827 marriage. I'm >sending this reply to Lawrence County, Ohio as well, in hopes that I can >enlighten someone, or get answers from there. :-) > >> The index that I have shows that William Rice was married to Sally Lynam >> on 2 Jan 1827 by John Evans. This references page 25 of Volume 1. > >Thanks to those who replied to my inquiry. I've been doing genealogy now >since January 1970 when by good fortune my father's company relocated him to >our ancestral home and someone asked him if he was related to the guy who >helped build a community about 4 miles away. That started the whole ball >rolling, and it never lost steam. This past July I published my first >family genealogy of the Tope family, which includes the Rices, but still my >Charles was a brick wall. > >I installed ancestry.com yesterday and found the 1860 census which gives my >Charles as the head of household, and unmarried (which is correct), and >living with him in Lawrence County, Ohio are Sarah age 60, his older brother >Thomas J. age 24, and his younger brother David age 17. Every census agrees >that Charles, was born in Kentucky. And the 1860 says that Charles, >Thomas, and Sarah were all born in Kentucky and David was born in Ohio. If >that's correct than the family left Kentucky sometime around 1843. > >For those in Bath County, are there any county histories or anything that >might include William and Sarah (Sally) Lynam Rice, that might list children >or something? > >I stumbled upon a "World family tree" genealogy that also lists another >brother for Charles as Richard. And there's a Richard living next door to >Charles and family in the 1860 census. This is where I discovered the >marriage date for Sarah and William, and it intrigued me because I then did >a search in Lawrence County and found William! But here's what's weird >while they all live in Symmes Twp., Lawrence County, Ohio, William does not >live with his family; or at least that's not how the census was taken. He >lives a few doors down with a collier, and he's listed as a laborer. Was >this typical? I've never seen this before. I doubt that they were >divorced. But he's 65 and she's 60 and both are listed as born in Kentucky. >The ages make it very possible for these two to be the William and Sarah >Lynam Rice that are supposedly my ancestors, but does anyone know why they'd >appear in different households? > >On page 2 of Arabia, Symmes Twp., Lawrence County, Ohio census is William >Rice and on page 4 is the rest of his family Richard age 29 head of his own >household, then as I said above Charles 22, Sarah age 60, Thomas J. age 24, >and David age 17. Does this make sense to anyone? > >For years it was thought that Charles W. Rice was the Charles W. Rice in the >1850 Bath County Census. But I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that >that is not true. That Charles does not have the right siblings, AND he >also appears in the 1860 census as C. Wallace Rice, whereas my C.W. Rice >shows up in Lawrence County the same year. I have been unable to locate my >Rice family in the 1850 census whether in Kentucky or Ohio, and have even >done a nationwide search. I'm stumped again. > >BTW, I've still not concluded concretely that the Sarah that Charles is >living with is Sarah Lynam or that the William living in Arabia is the >William who married Sarah Lynam, this is all speculation that I'm trying >desperately to prove. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Linda Trent >lindatrent@zoomnet.net > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: REUBEN5_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3741.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: THALIA: Was able to locate both a DEATH OBITUARY and FUNERAL NOTICE for Peter SCHUG. Also one for MYRTIE SCHUGG(sp). Also a death certificate for PETER SCHUG. Email me at REUBEN5@comcast.net to give me your addy. For your information they are buried in SECTION H in the Northern Half of Lot 6. Woodland Cemetery. Their records indicate lot owned by J. F. HOWE PETER was burial #11494 MYRTIE was 16754 It does indicate her last residence was San Diego, California as well as her obituary. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Hi Linda, I too have seen where a married couple is listed separately, with the husband apparently listed at the location of his work. Both are usually listed as married as well. It sure makes you puzzle over it though. - Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Trent" <lindatrent@zoomnet.net> To: <ohlawren@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: [OHLAWREN] Oddities in the census RICE family >> Sarah might have said husband not here and >> they listed her as head. They then went to couple >> houses down and he was at work so he was listed >> there. > > Yeah, that's what I would have assumed, IF she was listed as head of > household. However, she's not her middle son is. Charles is listed as > head > of household and is valued at over $100 personal property. By the 1870 > census he's at Aid PO, dunno how that compares to Arabia, or if he moved. > The husband has no value reported either, just the middle son, Charles. > Go > figure. > > But I know what you're saying about oddities and the census, but I've > never > quite seen *this* before. ;-) > > Thanks, > > Linda. > > >>>But here's what's weird while they all live in Symmes Twp., Lawrence >>>County, Ohio, William does not live with his family; or at least that's >>>not how the census was taken. He lives a few doors down with a collier, >>>and he's listed as a laborer. Was this typical? I've never seen this >>>before. >>>I doubt that they were divorced. But he's 65 and she's 60 and both are >>>listed >>>as born in Kentucky. The ages make it very possible for these two to be >>>the >>>William and Sarah Lynam Rice that are supposedly my ancestors, but does >>>anyone know why they'd appear in different households? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHLAWREN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wow! That's fascinating. I just never saw anything like this before and it made me curious. I guess there's a first time for everything. :-) Thanks for the stories though, it does help to straighten out a lot. Linda. > I have a pair of ancestors Arminta and Henry, who were married in 1871. > They > only appeared together in the 1880 census. They had one child after > 1880, > and then sometime before 1890 she moved back in with her parents. > Armintas dad > signed for her oldest daughters marriage in Aug 1890, with the written > permission of the Arminta. She was still with her parents in 1900 in > Lincoln Co, > WV, and with her daughter and son-in-law in 1910 and 1920, still listed > as > married. Henry died in 1928, and was listed as married. I have no idea > what > happened, but the surely weren't in the same place in census years after > 1880. > > Don Clark

In a message dated 10/27/2007 11:25:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, lindatrent@zoomnet.net writes: >>William and Sarah Lynam Rice that are supposedly my ancestors, but does >>anyone know why they'd appear in different households? I have a pair of ancestors Arminta and Henry, who were married in 1871. They only appeared together in the 1880 census. They had one child after 1880, and then sometime before 1890 she moved back in with her parents. Armintas dad signed for her oldest daughters marriage in Aug 1890, with the written permission of the Arminta. She was still with her parents in 1900 in Lincoln Co, WV, and with her daughter and son-in-law in 1910 and 1920, still listed as married. Henry died in 1928, and was listed as married. I have no idea what happened, but the surely weren't in the same place in census years after 1880. Don Clark ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

> Sarah might have said husband not here and > they listed her as head. They then went to couple > houses down and he was at work so he was listed > there. Yeah, that's what I would have assumed, IF she was listed as head of household. However, she's not her middle son is. Charles is listed as head of household and is valued at over $100 personal property. By the 1870 census he's at Aid PO, dunno how that compares to Arabia, or if he moved. The husband has no value reported either, just the middle son, Charles. Go figure. But I know what you're saying about oddities and the census, but I've never quite seen *this* before. ;-) Thanks, Linda. >>But here's what's weird while they all live in Symmes Twp., Lawrence >>County, Ohio, William does not live with his family; or at least that's >>not how the census was taken. He lives a few doors down with a collier, >>and he's listed as a laborer. Was this typical? I've never seen this >>before. >>I doubt that they were divorced. But he's 65 and she's 60 and both are >>listed >>as born in Kentucky. The ages make it very possible for these two to be >>the >>William and Sarah Lynam Rice that are supposedly my ancestors, but does >>anyone know why they'd appear in different households?

In a message dated 10/27/2007 11:55:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lindatrent@zoomnet.net writes: I stumbled upon a "World family tree" genealogy that also lists another brother for Charles as Richard. And there's a Richard living next door to Charles and family in the 1860 census. This is where I discovered the marriage date for Sarah and William, and it intrigued me because I then did a search in Lawrence County and found William! But here's what's weird while they all live in Symmes Twp., Lawrence County, Ohio, William does not live with his family; or at least that's not how the census was taken. He lives a few doors down with a collier, and he's listed as a laborer. Was this typical? I've never seen this before. I doubt that they were divorced. But he's 65 and she's 60 and both are listed as born in Kentucky. The ages make it very possible for these two to be the William and Sarah Lynam Rice that are supposedly my ancestors, but does anyone know why they'd appear in different households? I don,t have your answers but I can tell you that listed in different households was not unusual. A lot of answers to this question. Sarah might have said husband not here and they listed her as head. They then went to couple houses down and he was at work so he was listed there. I have found some strange things in census searhing. Trust your feelings and common sense. Good luck! Kenda ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

On the Bath Kentucky list I asked for verification of an 1827 marriage. I'm sending this reply to Lawrence County, Ohio as well, in hopes that I can enlighten someone, or get answers from there. :-) > The index that I have shows that William Rice was married to Sally Lynam > on 2 Jan 1827 by John Evans. This references page 25 of Volume 1. Thanks to those who replied to my inquiry. I've been doing genealogy now since January 1970 when by good fortune my father's company relocated him to our ancestral home and someone asked him if he was related to the guy who helped build a community about 4 miles away. That started the whole ball rolling, and it never lost steam. This past July I published my first family genealogy of the Tope family, which includes the Rices, but still my Charles was a brick wall. I installed ancestry.com yesterday and found the 1860 census which gives my Charles as the head of household, and unmarried (which is correct), and living with him in Lawrence County, Ohio are Sarah age 60, his older brother Thomas J. age 24, and his younger brother David age 17. Every census agrees that Charles, was born in Kentucky. And the 1860 says that Charles, Thomas, and Sarah were all born in Kentucky and David was born in Ohio. If that's correct than the family left Kentucky sometime around 1843. For those in Bath County, are there any county histories or anything that might include William and Sarah (Sally) Lynam Rice, that might list children or something? I stumbled upon a "World family tree" genealogy that also lists another brother for Charles as Richard. And there's a Richard living next door to Charles and family in the 1860 census. This is where I discovered the marriage date for Sarah and William, and it intrigued me because I then did a search in Lawrence County and found William! But here's what's weird while they all live in Symmes Twp., Lawrence County, Ohio, William does not live with his family; or at least that's not how the census was taken. He lives a few doors down with a collier, and he's listed as a laborer. Was this typical? I've never seen this before. I doubt that they were divorced. But he's 65 and she's 60 and both are listed as born in Kentucky. The ages make it very possible for these two to be the William and Sarah Lynam Rice that are supposedly my ancestors, but does anyone know why they'd appear in different households? On page 2 of Arabia, Symmes Twp., Lawrence County, Ohio census is William Rice and on page 4 is the rest of his family Richard age 29 head of his own household, then as I said above Charles 22, Sarah age 60, Thomas J. age 24, and David age 17. Does this make sense to anyone? For years it was thought that Charles W. Rice was the Charles W. Rice in the 1850 Bath County Census. But I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that that is not true. That Charles does not have the right siblings, AND he also appears in the 1860 census as C. Wallace Rice, whereas my C.W. Rice shows up in Lawrence County the same year. I have been unable to locate my Rice family in the 1850 census whether in Kentucky or Ohio, and have even done a nationwide search. I'm stumped again. BTW, I've still not concluded concretely that the Sarah that Charles is living with is Sarah Lynam or that the William living in Arabia is the William who married Sarah Lynam, this is all speculation that I'm trying desperately to prove. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Linda Trent lindatrent@zoomnet.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlion1742 Surnames: Lyon, Miller, Dodson, Karnes Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/108.143/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have information on Anna Lyon and Richard Lambert. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorothySwanson44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3740.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I most certainly will appreciate it. Dorothy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tmbrown31 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3741.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bill, Your generosity is most appreciated. Thank you. Respectfully, Thalia Brown Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: REUBEN5_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3740.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I will be going to the library this weekend and I will see what I can locate for you. Bill Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: REUBEN5_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3741.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I will be going to the library this weekend and I will see what I can locate for you...Bill Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tmbrown31 Surnames: Schug Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3741/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there someone who would be kind enough to try and find either a death notice or an obituary and get copies for me? I am willing to pay for copies and postage if anything can be located. I am seeking the obituary for Peter J. Schug who passed away October 14, 1937. At the time of his death he was living on High Street in Coal Grove, Lawrence County, Ohio. Thank you, in advance, for any and all help. It is greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorothySwanson44 Surnames: Crowe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3740/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would appreciate the obituary of a Charles Crowe who d. Sept. 16, 1997 at South Point(?) Lawrence Co. Ohio. Thank you so very much. Dorothy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TracingMyRootsAtHotmailDotCom Surnames: GILMORE - DUNCAN - POLLOCK Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3739/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for the marriage date of Blanche GILMORE - daughter of Robert Lee GILMORE and Mary Gertrude POLLOCK - born about 1904 in Scioto County Ohio - living in Lawrence Co, OH in 1920 census - married Willard DUNCAN Probably married about 1924. Thanks for your help! Sandy Gilmore TracingMyRoots@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TracingMyRootsAtHotmailDotCom Surnames: GILMORE - HUSTON - KENNEDY - POLLOCK Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.lawrence/3738/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for more info on Grace GILMORE (b.1893), daughter of Robert Lee GILMORE (1861-1907) and Mary Gertrude POLLOCK (1866-1918) of Portsmouth, OH. Grace GILMORE married Charles HUSTON in 1912, "next door" in Lawrence Co., OH. I think she divorced him, or he died. I think she remarried a man with the surname of KENNEDY. In about 1937, she was going by the name of Grace GILMORE again. Grace GILMORE grew up in Portsmouth, OH, and lived in that area during her marriages. questions.... What was her 2nd husband's name? What were her children's names? When and where did she die? Please contact me at my address below. I have a photo of her and one of her children. Also, I have lots of info about the GILMORE family. Thanks for your help! Sandy Gilmore TracingMyRoots@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Just passing this along to anyone who might be interested. Those of us that have done this testing know how exciting this can be. Henry S. Dillon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Walker" <imanokie@cox.net> To: <ohbelmon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:43 PM Subject: [OHBELMON] CBS on 60 Minutes > Wanted to give the list a "heads up" that 60 Minutes on CBS will have a > segment on this Sunday evening by Leslie Stahl about genetic genealogy, > and > the uses of DNA in genealogy. > > On the right side of this page, under "Roots", click watch the promo for > this segment (after you get past the commercial) > > http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml > > or here is a direct link > > http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=3330144&channel=60Minutes > > There is a very popular genealogy TV show in Brittain called "Who Do You > Think You Are?", but this is the first time that I'm > > aware of that American network TV has approached any genealogy topic > since > the showing of "Roots". Maybe they are catching on. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHBELMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >