This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dumble, Gates, Rundell, Goldsmith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GWB.2ACE/687.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I don't have a book on the Gates. I got a marriage certificate from Ohio. It stated that John Dumble married Caroline Gates. I then checked for info about a Caroline Gates in England. I found a Robert Gates who had a daughter, Caroline with the right birth date. She is buried in Houston, Texas.