This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GWB.2ACE/1293.3 Message Board Post: thanks guys i already have that info 1860. hoping to find something out about john and eliza. and i would like to know where hardman grew up. i know this will be hard. thanks any way for your help. linda b